Sorry but another GPs question

Submitted: Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:03
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I am very new to the GPS world except for the Tom Tom in my work car and i dont even use that very well.

I have read quite a few posts on here about using a Laptop instead of a Navigator/GPS bought from the shops. I get the impression that this is a very good option but i dont understand completely.

Can someone please explain for me the following:

How does the laptop "speak" to the satelite?
I read about a GPS Arial, is this what i need to start with? How much is it?
What hardware/softwhere is needed to have this set up?
Can it be done with any Laptop?

cheers Dave
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Reply By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:31

Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:31
You could start here as an example of suitable software.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:43

Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:43
If going to use a laptop, then OziExplorer or Trackranger are good options for software. But be aware, you will have to spend some time getting to understand how to use it effectively. To get satellite positioning you will need a gps that can talk to your laptop and software. A cheap and effective option would be a BU-353 GPS Reciever approx $90.00 and available from the shop here or other sources.

Suggest you take the time to read the articles here on GPS navigation.
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Follow Up By: blueriderwa - Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:54

Saturday, Aug 15, 2009 at 22:54
Thanks Fred, I have read quite few threads on here about navigation but most of them assume a certain level of knowlegde of the differed tools of the trade, hence my post going back to basics. Having said this i have read one of the articles on here since posting that has enlightened me about the GPS Compact Flash and the GPS Mouse.

My question on these are:

Which option is best? and

Is the laptop screen suitable? or is it too hard to see in day light?

cheers dave
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 02:17

Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 02:17
I have used the BU353 with a laptop in my car. The BU353 is simply amazing, it got a good satellite fix inside my troopie when I stuck its magnet to the side of the steel dash (facing the passenger door) overnight and forgot to place it back on the dashboard top.
A laptop screen (at least my Toshiba's) is easy to see in day light inside the car. I use OziExplorer software.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 07:14

Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 07:14
Hi Dave

You may have gathered this now , but you need a GPS to pick up the signal and give it to the Laptop,

THis can be via a direct connection cable or via a short range radio link

If via a radio link then it has to have its batteries charged up regularly.

On the laptop you run a program like Ozi-explorer.

The laptops main advantage is that it can use a wide range of maps and the program shows your position on the map. Its not really navigating although this is possible but difficult to use.

Generally speaking the laptops programs don't supply all the functions of a good navigator like the Tom Tom let alone those of a full GPS.

Laptops also have approximately only about 1/4 of the screen brightness of the Tom Tom and are difficult to use in a car.

This visibility problem gets worse when you try to view the laptop while driving because of two factors , first the screen brightness drops off rapidly when you are looking at it at an angle, and second because the laptop and its wires cannot be positioned idealy because of there size.

A good Navigator/GPS can be mounted in you line of sight over the dash so is safter when driving.

Really they are different animals at this stage of their development.

We always carry a laptop these days but its almost never used for active navigation , its main use is that its simply smaller than carrying dozens of maps and can download from cameras and our GPS and even carry a full car service manual etc.


























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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:27

Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:27
A laptop will give a larger display than other options, but you need to be able to mount it securely, be easy to remove and yes, it can be affected by sunlight making the screen hard to see.

Laptops do not generally come with touch screens, so you need to use a mouse, an integrated touchpad, or a touch screen add-on. You also require a GPS mouse, either connected to the laptop's USB port, or via bluetooth interface if the laptop supports it.

I used to use by laptop running Oziexplorer, which gives you a moving map display of where you are at any given time. This is a terrific driving aid to have when travelling through our countryside, but is not much good for inner-city use.
For this I use a separate Tomtom unit, although I also have a voice guided application available on the PDA device I now use to run OziExlorer CE and using NATMAP Premium for Australia wide mapping.
Once you become familiar with OziExplorer you can record and save your routes and any waypoints of interesting places you may choose to record.

All of this requires a fair amount of configuration when using a PDA and installing the applications etc.

Scared you off yet???
Don't be.

Two solutions I will offer that require less configuration and knowledge about computer devices are the Hema Navigator, or the Garmin Nuvi.
Both devices offer a dual capability of voice guided city navigation, plus country wide moving map navigation.

The Hema Navigator uses OziExplorer and Hema maps for moving map navigation.
OziExplorer is an Australian produced application and is kind of the "pseudo standard" for Exploroz travellers and the swapping of routes, waypoints, etc. among members.
The Garmin Nuvi uses more proprietary applications and add-ons such as shonky maps or Garmin Toppo to get the best advantage out of the unit, but is by all accounts a very good device.

Member Doug (NT) is the resident guru on all things Garmin and he can offer great advice if you choose this option.

Both the Hema Navigator and the Garmin Nuvi provide superior daytime viewing with less glare than a laptop and they also incorporate builtin GPS reception and touchscreen control, like the Tomtom.


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Follow Up By: blueriderwa - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:09

Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 15:09
Great info, thanks Bill and the others above. My next questions are

Can the Garmin Nuvi 5000 run the mapping softwhere like Shonky Maps or Garmin Toppo? I have found one of these on special for $500 down from $800, which seems to be a good deal.

Also

Can the Ozi Explorer or Shonky or Gamin Toppo run on a Macbook? I dont have one but i am thinking of getting one.

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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 17:19

Sunday, Aug 16, 2009 at 17:19
Dave,

According to theJohnny Appleseed URL yes.

Scroll down to the 5000 model and it mentions the Garmin Toppo application.
As for running the applications on a Macbook, a phone call to JCS will probably best answer your queries.

Bill.


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