Attention Bush Tyre Experts

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:08
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During our recent venture through the Great Victoria Desert, we visited an old bore site off of Parallel No 2 Road, which is off of the Connie Sue Highway. Some on the many pieces of abandoned pieces still at the site was a real talking point with my group. When opened out, it would have been the size of a truck tyre. Each of the metal plates were on a rubber blocks, so that when they moved, the whole thing would move freely. The rounded side would act as a guard, helping to eliminate those dreaded side wall punctures that would be so common when out in that type of country.

Are we on the right track.

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Stephen

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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:14

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:14
Hi Stephen

By the looks of it you all had a great trip this year. some of these places will be on the list for next years trip all going well.

I'm looking forward to be reading your Blogs and Trek notes soon..

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Richard

Do you think it wrapped around a tyre or like a skid steer loader?
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:26

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:26
Hi Richard
As usual we ran out of weather in the end. About 20 kilometres west of Everard Junction, down came the rain in the middle of the night. It was then touch and go Down the Heather Highway and back to Warakurna. The area we were in only has a few mm of rain, just to settle the dust and make a few sticky sections, yet the same day Docker River recorded 37mm. Next day we were dodging the big puddles and kicking up dust. We could have used the tyre protectors on the Sydney Yeo Track, where we did in one near new tyre.
If you do the Connie Sue again, make sure that you visit the Point Lillian Art site, they were the best that we have seen in the Great Victoria Desert, four separate galleries - they were unreal.

As for the track, it unbolted and could have been put on a tyre, just like snow chains.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:05

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:05
Yes I read that in your post.. we went out to Point Sandercock and said that the next time out that way we will call out to Point Lillian and after seeing the photos it is surely on the list

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:20

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:20
Hi Richards
If you need the details, just send me a MM. They were the highlight of the Connie Sue.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:41

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:41
Thanks

Stephen, we got right to the turn off but the old time frame thing came into it, so we put it for another time,
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But I will keep it in mind

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:54

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:54
Hi Richard
Yes I know first hand that old time frame. I always include more than we are able to see. The trip into the site is well worth it.

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Reply By: Rick (S.A.) - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:59

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 21:59
Hey Stephen,

Gotta love that western myall country, eh??
I was in it July last year - skirted around the top of the Nullarbor plain after visiting Grt Vic Spring. A very attractive and seldom visited region. We came out at Forrest and thence down to the blacktop at Eucla. Those we travelled with all remarked on the un-expected appeal of that fusion of landforms & vegetation types.

I have been on the plain & its verges quite a few times - first in 1970, when we went as far north as Neale Junction. We were so bloody hungry we ate roos & crows for meat on that trip. Built a spinifex shelter at Neale Junction - is it still standing??

Have you heard of Twilight Cove? - it really is magnificent, at the western end of those mallee plains south of the plain escarpment, below the bitumen highway which leads to the west.

All the best from down south (well, south of Clare).

PS - Had a nice trip down the CSR, and then 5 weeks in Europe since we last spoke. Such is life

RM
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:18

Sunday, Aug 30, 2009 at 22:18
Hi Rick
Good to hear that you had a great trip. The west is a great place and we are heading back there again next year. We did not see any spinifex shelter around Neale Junction. Fires in the area in past would have taken care of that.

All the best and will give you a call soon.


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Reply By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:38

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:38
Hi Stephen,
The tracks are an interesting find aren’t they? I have been to the spot a number of times and have always been fascinated by them. So much so that I have tried to find out more.

On one trip I was told they were used and left there by a Nissan driver because he kept getting punctures! I’m not sure about that explanation.

I prefer this explanation. Hunt Oil, from Texas, in 1966 had permits to explore 126,650 square miles from the Tropic of Capricorn down through the Great Vic to SA border. They created numerous roads, cut lines and drilled many wells and bores. Including presumably Parallel No 2 Road, although I can’t find any official record of how it’s got its name.
Hunt Oil drilled numerous bores/wells, including on track side on the Connie Sue. It’s called Lennis No1; it was 2016 ft deep and was dry.

I would say they brought the steel tracks with them from the USA probably thinking they were going to be in deserts like they had experienced elsewhere in the world. Sadly we will probably never know exactly what it was all about unless one of the now long retired workers can be found and they tell the story.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:56

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 07:56
Hi Phil
They are very interesting, that is for sure. It was only after close inspection that we made the conclusion that they must be to stop side wall punctures. I think Mick O and Allan should try them out on their next trip and give a run down on how good there are. Perhaps they were made by Cooper Tyres - it was their first "Armour Tech" approach at stopping those lovely Mulga stakes.

Thanks for that interesting piece of history of the area.

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Reply By: Boobook2 - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:27

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:27
There is a guy called Mick Hutton who knows a lot about tyres in the bush and runs tours in that area. He also happens to be married to one Connie Sue Beadell. So there is a pretty good chance he will know what it is and probably the vehicle it came off and when and why.

Beadlell Tours

There is also a heap of other useful info about the area, HF, tyre info etc etc on the web site.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil B (WA) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:41

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:41
Hi Boobook2

I met both Mick and Connie Sue out in the Great Vic this year, they had just come down from Parallel Rd No 2.
I asked them about the metal tracks, sadly they weren't able to shed any light on how they got there.

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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:01

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:01
Hi Phil
Mick and Connie Sue and Anne Beadell beat us into Laverton by 2 days this trip.
I have spoken to Anne and met her a couple of times. She only lives just under an hour south of where I live her in SA.

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Reply By: Traveller - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:23

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:23
It could have been part of a Half-Track vehicle brought over from the USA. Maybe a WW2 relic or a tracked vehicle associated with drilling.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:33

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 08:33
Hi Traveller,
We too thought that they were at first tracks. At a closer examination, they appear to have been placed over the truck tyres, just like snow chains. At one point on each tracks, the bolts were longer and attached different to the others, so the unit could be laid flat on the ground, and then placed over a tyre. Each of the plates were brazed, on rubber blocks to give them the flexibility to move freely as the tyre would move. The side plate was about 6" or about 15cm high, that would give almost complete sidewall protection from Mulga stakes.

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Follow Up By: Member - Malcolm (Townsville) - Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:47

Monday, Aug 31, 2009 at 09:47
That looks something like I could use to turn my 6x4 into a half track. Check my profile pictures.

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