Buying a 4wd motorhome.

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Found a hilux with a Sunliner motorhome body.It looks excellent but am worried the hilux would be underpowered for the weight of the motorhome.We think maybe a Canter,Isuzu or similar conversion might be the way to go. We intend to travel round Australia in it in the next couple of years so don't want a poptop troopie or similar as we would like some space to live in. We also want a shower/toilet set up. We also want to be able to go the places our offroad camper and Landcruiser can go now.
Would love to read other peoples comments, ideas and recommendations
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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 00:19

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 00:19
I imported this

to do this

and this

and also this



with shower and toilet and queen size bed, and many many
things which makes life on the road more pleasant. Especially
driving it is fun. I wanted a truck with payload but power
and acceleration like a sports car. The truck does the quarter mile
in a bit over 14 seconds. Without all the additional weight these trucks
go sub 12 seconds. Cruise control sits on a 100 in WA with the boat
in tow and the engine revs around 1700 in 5th. I do not use my 6th
for towing. It is lugging the engine too much at 1450 revs at 100.

This was my optimum for the purpose.

Have fun selecting.
gmd

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Follow Up By: nighttrain - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:59

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 08:59
Hi gmd, where did you import this from?
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Follow Up By: _gmd_pps - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:08

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:08
Are you for real ?
There is only one country in the world where you buy things like this !
US of course, where else do you get these trucks ? Oh yeah, Canada sorry.
But you would not buy in Canada because the US is cheaper.
have fun
gmd
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Follow Up By: nighttrain - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:27

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:27
Sorry for asking such a stupid question, but we have been looking at doing something like this but not sure on how to go about doing it. and also i know where you buy these sort of vehicles because I live there in the USA.
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Reply By: Dan - Yal - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 00:21

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 00:21
Hi Helen & Bruce,
we've just travelled around Oz in a cruiser. Its was fine for us on that trip ( 7 months) but our next trip will be for a few years so we will go down the path of the Canter or Isuzu Camper.
Your thoughts about the hilux are right, too small, not much power and not that capable off road.
There are more and more of these light trucks getting around with camper conversions. Google "earthcruiser" and "amesz". Both of these companies make a good 4WD truck camper.

Enjoy your trip

Dan
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 07:42

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 07:42
Hi Dan-Yal

I reckon that you are right with your thinking, when you need to shift heavy loads then 'truck' technology will be best in the long run. There is however some merit in being able to leave your load and scoot off on tracks where you do not want to take the camper but that's going to be your call and accept the trade off, comfort or versatility.

KK
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:09

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:09
Hi Helen & Bruce.
First you need to decide how "bush" you want to go, and how comfortable you want to be when you get there. Be very careful with weight. Too much kills veicles and they always finish up heavier than you think.
Everytime you "up the anti" it will cost more and be more specialised.

The Canters and Isuzus are trucks first, 4x4s second. To be effective 4x4s they need considerable modification to wheels & tyres and suspension. But there are no secrets to doing those mods, you just pay.

We built this camper on the OKA.
The base vehicle is exceptionally good for the job, but buying one with the appopriate body or having one built for us was out of our buget, so we did our own.
This video clip will give you an idea of the capability.

We have absolutely no regrets. We live in this for 8 months each year and it is totally self contained for about 6 weeks (food suply capacity).
There are other slide shows and a description of the fit-out on the link below.
Good luck.

Cheers,
Peter
OKA196 Motorhome
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Follow Up By: Helen and Bruce - Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 20:28

Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 20:28
Amazing pics - my heart was in my mouth watching these.
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Reply By: Member - Frogman (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:28
Image Could Not Be FoundHi ,I use to have years ago a Winnebago motor home. Great but I wanted to be able to go Off road. I sold it and purchased a Hilux turbo diesel extra cab.
My nex order soon wil be a slide on camper from NORTHSTAR CAMPERS (www.northstarcampers.com.au ) I will be getting the new TRACKERMASTER 7 SIDE DOOR pop roof which will be perfect for me. But for you if you have a bigger ute you can buy the hard wall model with toilet &shower.A good thing you can take off your camper and use your ute for other things and also good for storage when you dont need it.....hope this will help..just an idea... the photo is of a model for TUBS there are models for flat tray as well..
regards John
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 14:47

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 14:47
Hi Helen & Bruce


Have a look at this website as they have a product that might suit you. You didn't mention a budget but these are in the $180-200K region.

Earth Cruiser - Canter

Good luck with it....
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 15:49

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 15:49
This is a Warrior/Canter tour bus on the OTT.
Limited off road mods.

This is more of our OKA196.
Just a little creek.....


Cheers,
Peter
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Reply By: austastar - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 15:33

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 15:33
Hi,
I'm still looking, but pretty well decided on what I need now.

This is part of my research.

cheers
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Reply By: Member - ross m (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:06

Tuesday, Sep 15, 2009 at 16:06
These posts should start with a budget.
However Canter/Isuzu or OKA is the way I would like to go one day.
Many reasons,but parts availbilty,mechanics who are familiar with the brand and reliability are the main ones.

I think Earthcruiser make a unit now that will bolt to your choice of truck in case you didnt want to purchase theirs fully built

This company also do something similar
Site Link

There is also Amesz Industries in Perth
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:22

Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:22
Hiya
We have a IVECO unit. Not really a 'motorhome'...more a 'granny flat on wheels'. Good 4WD capability. Roomy enough for 2. Has a GVM of 4.5t, but when fully loaded for a trip, tips the scales at just over 4.0t. No setting up required. Just pull up and ready to rest. Does have awning if/when required.
Cheers

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Reply By: delta57 - Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 15:23

Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 15:23
my wife and i have just returned from a trip to the mainland, and are going to sell our 4wd isuzu 250 moterhome. it has shower and toilet, aircon, sat tv, ordinary tv gas stove and oven, slide out gas barbecue. 2005 model 59634 kms. phone 0363524492 also 250 litres of fuel 240 litres of water two spares
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Reply By: Bandicoot - Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 18:40

Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009 at 18:40
My wife and I took an Earthcruiser for an overnight 2-day test last week. You can download our findings from http://rapidshare.com/files/280116143/Impressions_of_the_EarthCruiser__rev_3.pdf

We're planning a long overseas trip in the not so distant future and think this, or similar, is the way to go. We have a great off-road van at present, but it's not practical to take it overseas!
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Follow Up By: wicket - Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 16:29

Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 16:29
Bandicoot
Have read your impressions, thanks, well done. What woud be the cost of the vehicle in it's current configuation?
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Follow Up By: Bandicoot - Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 17:01

Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 17:01
New is a smidgen over $200 k including GST; that's optioned up with additional fuel and water tanks, alloy bullbar and a few other things. Somewhat less than a good off-road van and a L/C fully set up for bush work.
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Reply By:- Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 13:44

Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 13:44
have a isuzu nps 4wd motorhome for sale. 2005. 60000klm. has everything. brian ph.0423540101
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Reply By: Helen and Bruce - Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 20:26

Thursday, Sep 17, 2009 at 20:26
Thank you all for your input. It has been very interesting. Keep it coming. You are right - I should have put a price guide to what we are looking for. Somewhere round the $100,000 preferably less.Unfortunately that puts a new Earthcruiser, Amesz,Earthwarrior etc out of reach.
There do seem to be some secondhand vehicles out there that would be great tho.
Do readers think that walkthru rigs are better than non-walk thru? The slideon outfit from America looks good (being able to drive away is an advantage) but not having to go out in the weather to get to the cab seems wonderful.Having the cab seats swivel also seems to be a good use of space.
The Earthcruiser seems to me to be a good vehicle but the builders have put the accommadation section way down the priority list.
We will be selling our Challenge off road camper when we buy this motorhome so if interested in a camper which is in exce;;ent condition and quite spacious, please contact us.
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Follow Up By: TheBattletruck - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:05

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2009 at 09:05
Hi Helen and Bruce,
We have spent two years now in a 4x4 Hino truck with a 6 metre body and all the usual expedition vehicle goodies. I am generally a 'swag and a dog' type of bloke but my wife is a bit 'Taj Mahal' so I conceded. It was second hand admittedly but in very good clean condition and the price was good and turned me in the end. I couldn't be happier it is very comfortable, easy to drive and has given us excellent off road and remote capability throughout Queensland (all the way to Cape York including Old Telegraph Track) and NT and western NSW. OTT was a challenge at times but challenge is what we were looking for - nothing a chainsaw or bush saw couldn't fix. We come in at 10500 kg fully loaded (with wifes shower water - 600 litres) but can get up to 11700kg. We have spent under 2000 dollars on fixing bits etc in 2 years - not bad on a 1991 truck and 1997 conversion. A credit to the previous owners. We don't have a walk through (tilt cab) but thats what jackets are for and even though last year was unusually wet in Qld, it's not a big issue generally. If you have time on your side you could buy a Hino 4x4 (ex CFA fire truck) for under 30K - in good condition with low K's - and build or get built your own body. I am looking to spend another $10,000 or so over the next two years (new deep cycle batteries, bigger generator etc) but these are options not necessity.
This is my first post on this site, I am happy to answer your questions or talk to other 4x4 motorhome people as well.
Also, join the CMCA, you get good benefits with insurance etc and there are alot of like minded people with good idea's.
Good luck with your hunt and your travels, if you send me your email I can send you pics and specs of my truck,

Cheers

Craig
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Reply By: racinrob - Wednesday, Sep 23, 2009 at 15:52

Wednesday, Sep 23, 2009 at 15:52
I too have a slide-on and carry it on a Landcruiser table top 4.2 turbo diesel. In ten years we've done some incredible trips without any problems. I'd be the first to admit it has some limitations but these are more than made up for by its versatility. I take the camper off when we get home and use my truck as a daily drive/ work vehicle.
I have been looking around for a replacement but so far haven't seen anything that comes close.
Rob.
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Reply By: Helen and Bruce - Friday, Sep 25, 2009 at 21:23

Friday, Sep 25, 2009 at 21:23
Thanks Craig. Sounds like you had a great trip (or are you still on the road?)
Would love to see some pics,
Cheers,
Helen
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