Crash test results: Great Wall and Proton utes

Point being is they are not safe - do not buy one :-)

You can not compare an old Model with new model coming on to the market, they did not have to meet a standard - the bar is raised now and cheepies should not lower it, injures cost the community and family's greatly.

In saying that they passed design requirements, just do not crash them. Cheers Tony

As the report says, many other utes on the market acheive 4 Stars, with one acheiving 5 Stars. The number of stars relates to the likelihood of the driver and passengers being protected from injury during a collision.

Ratings of particular vehicles are available on the ANCAP website, as well as detailed explanations of the tests and results.

My ute gets a massive 4 out of 16 for offset impact front and a 16/16 for side impact.

Wow, that is so much better than the Great Wall - not :-))))

Cheers Tony

Yeah great, compare a car from the 1960's to a 2009 model. That's a real equal comparison, not. The 2009 VE Commodore ute was awarded a 4 star crash/safety rating by ANCAP, which may be upgraded, and the 2009 FG Falcon ute 4 stars (probably 5 if it is optioned with the safety pack)

And the mighty toyota landcruiser tdv8 ute, yeah, the one so many rave on about, the one with minimal airbags, no side intrusion bars etc, gets how many stars from Ancap????

I have not been able to find a rating for them, is there one????

Cheers,

Disco.

So road warrior you recon a comparrison of a 60s model to a 09 model is not fair ? How fair is it to compare a $20k vehicle to a $40/50+k vehicle ?

my apologies, the Ranger did better than 5.4 and got to 6.5, it was the Colorado and Dmax that achieved only 5.4 for that test. I had my long term heart set on an Isuzu D-max, but not in one!!!

Monash university do ongoing research into crash results for vehicles sold in oz.
I dont think it has the ratings here,its not the intention,but it gives some idea.
Somewhere in here ,it has an article about rollovers including 75 series.
Its hard going making sense of it all though

Site Link

Hi Ross

After reading through lots of Monash Uni results compiled from accident data they don't seem to register landcruiser utes. They do cover landcruiser wagons and hilux utes but nowhere could I find landcruiser utes.

I think they don't want to find out out the landcruiser utes.

There is not much about utes,but there is a bit about troopy rolloversSite Link

I did read sometime back that the 75 series was a difficult vehicle to assess.
Many of the accidents it was in,were in the outback or on private roads inside cattle stations and mining leases.
These factors made it impossible to verify the drivers account of what really happened.
For instance alcohol was never a factor nor was speed,according to the witnesses LOL.

What they did find about the troopy rollovers, was that it was more stable than some of the 2WD utes in the police force.

2004 TOYOTA WITH AIR BAGS TEST

Kiwi Tests on Landcruiser

Thanks Tony & Julie

But both those links are for landcruiser station wagons which are readily available in a lot of places. I was looking for tests on the 70 series ute. Just cannot find them. They test hilux utes and lots of other utes like holden, isuzu etc but I cannot find landcruiser utes.

The landcruiser utes did not have airbags until Sept 2009 so would not expect any crash tests for utes involving airbags.

I think you'll find the 70-Series range is excluded as a "Commercial Vehicle" since ANCAP and the like relate only to passenger vehicles. There are different standards and regulations applying to vehicles that are categorised as "Commercial". Perhaps you could direct an enquiry to ANCAP themselves?

I think prior to the mid-1980s (or even as late as 1990s), all 4WD's were categorised as "Commercial" vehicles but this was changed to reflect the increasing numbers of them now being used as family/passenger vehicles, likewise with the other utes you mention (eg. Hiluxes, Holden, Isuzu, etc.).

Serendipity of Mandurah

I think you will find it is not good. There is a fairly high rate of mortality just in basic one vehicle rollovers in the utes. I scoffed when i heard that as i expected that big stremgthened bar at the back of the tray would act as a roll bar

NUP -
just saw the photos of a 79 rolled by the partner of a guy at work. The bar just bent back and the huge weight of the driveline completly crushed the cab
she was saved by gwd knows what i suspect because she was a smaller girl and lent over during the roll as it was crushed to the bonnet and doors

definitly no room for a big guy sitting upright left

Serendipity, I just got a response from ANCAP...

I asked:
"Please advise crash-test rating of Toyota Landcruiser 70-Series (released in mid-1980s but not in your crash-test results). It had model upgrade in Mar 07 & airbags added in Sep 09 but still no info from ANCAP on either commercial or passenger variants."
(I had to be very cryptic as they only gave me something like 276 characters!)

and they replied:
"Thank you for your enquiry. We do not have an updated result for the Toyota Landcruiser but we are about to embark of testing that vehicle and several other larger 4WD vehicles. I expect the results to be available mid 2010."
So try to not crash it at least until the results are released middle of next year! :-)

And Get Outmore, I think you'll find that bar behind the cab is not a roll bar but more of a 'cargo barrier' to prevent the load from entering the cab during a front-on collision, or else it's just a 'head board' to tie the load up against.

as my dad ses; its not you running into someone thats the risk, its someone running into you!

Mogul, I thin you'll find that they haven't done crash tests into solid concrete blocks for a number of years now - usually they use what is called a 'deformable barrier' which is supposed to similute another vehicle and the way that it would 'deform' in a coliision.

And yes, I hope we all know why they don't just test a Prado vs. Commodore or D-Max vs. Corolla but in case you don't, I'd suggest that it might have something to do with the Prado driver wanting some confidence that he might be reasonably protected from injury in a collision with other vehicles - not just Commodores. There is usually more than one Prado on the road at any given time, and not all other vehicles are Commodores. Similarly, while D-Max's might be rare at this stage, they drive amongst many other non-Corolla vehicles...

Isn't it that all cars tested are hitting a known standard??
That way the results are a reflection of the individual vehicle being crash tested and not influenced by hitting something different each time.

That's how I understand it John - it's not practical (too time consuming and too costly!) to test every car against every other alternative. And, it would be difficult to continue to source older cars for testing against each new/current model!