Oversize Caravans

Hi Willem - Thank you for your reply.
That is another option. Plan B
TY

would nt the NSW rego be more expensive here?NSW is the rip off state as far as rego is concerned

Hey Scoof - Thank you for your reply.
Good choice, after I received your mail I mentioned it on another letter to QLD Transport.
They did say that other vehicles - motorhomes- often have exemptions.
Fingers are still crossed, feet are itchen to get going.
Makka

Hi Graham, Thank you for your reply.
Your right, you have to change the rego over asap.
I thought everything was going well, got all the paperwork together - safety certificate, gas certificate etc
Woooooooooo forgot to put in the tape measure and measure all the van spec's before I bought. As if at that stage I knew all the dimensions!
Makka

What make is it There must be others floating around the same in Queerland.
Or was it a custom built version.

Hope I dont have same trouble Have bought a 25ft in WA to eventually take back to QLD

same here to many vehicles here in NSW but carried VIC rego.In fact the co i work for has VIC rego on 3 of their 5 trucks

If it is under 12 months old surely the manufacturer is responsible?

I bet he (manufacturer) will not come round too easily how can you fix it bit hard now, don't you think.
Normally the wheel arches are inside cupboards and tucked away out of site, moving the whole suspension back to comply would be a ass ache , not to mention the draw bar weight increase. That's why I suggested a permit.
Maybe the rules in the state it was manufactured are alright at that overhang.

The sooner we get a Australian set of rules the better. But that would be impossible to get all the states to agree. LOL

Cheers Scoof . :-)

All I have done at this stage, in regards to the manufacturer, is keep him informed of the departments / people I have been talking to.
You right, if he /I look at moving the running gear it would be a night mare, putting it politely. Plan A is to get the exemption, plan B ?
Makka

Hi Makka,
Interesting dilemma.

According to the VicRoads standards 3.7m overhang is the maximum for a single axle van/tralier, yet the caravan was first registered there.

It would appear the manufacturer built and somehow registered a non compliant van.

This is a hairs width away from "not fit for purpose", but as the second owner you probably not going to get any where with that. "Caveat Emptor" and all that sort of stuff.

It's not a dual axle van by the way ?

If so, then the calculations are a bit different.

If you don't have the QLD form to see the calculations see following,

QLD Trailer Standards

I think that you really have only two choices,
1) Have the Van registered in NSW,
2) Get a compliance exemption.

Best of luck.

Cheers,
Mal

Hi Matt, Thank you for your reply.
At the moment the manufacturer hasn't contacted me with any reasons or explainations. We have talked on the phone and ' he will get back to me'.
At Qld transport they have a ' Pig Trailer Inspection Sheet ' which they go over the van and take certain measurements. If all these measurements are under the maximum measurement, all is Ok. The one in question here is the measurement from the centre of the two axles to the rear of the actual van, not including the bumper or anything else hanging off the rear. This distance should be no more than 3.7M, mine is 3.91M - 201mm too much. I know now this measurement is the same for VIC & QLD.
We wait with the heart still pumpin - time for a stubie
Makka

Thank god for that My new one is 3.6 to the rear of the bumper bar.


How did the get it reg in Vic if thr measurements are the same ??????

One other RV item that people should be aware of relates to imported fifth wheelers or motorhomes.

The entry door must be on the left hand side or the vehicle cannot be registered in Qld. If it is the right hand side (US) the vehicle must be modified and certified.

Pooley
www.bycompass.com

If it has a rear bumper that protrudes 200mm, take it off-inspect-register?

In all probability the van has been modified since it was manufactured. If so, can you live without this mod? Remove that mod for rego purposes if it has been added.

This modification after they get the unit is very common with motorhomes. You will see a lot of them built on European light truck chassis with a very long overhanging rear. One of the first things new owners do is to add a storage box or bike rack the the rear. In just about every case these will transgress the maximum overhang limit. A traffic cop with little to do on a quiet day could have a field day with those in touristy areas.

PeterD

Gents...

FFS

Makka said it is a CARAVAN, not a motorhome or a 5th wheeler. I asked if the measurement was to the rear of the structure or to the bumper and its is to the rear of the structure...so he cant remove the rear bumper.
Matt.

Sorry, I should have commenced the second paragraph "as an aside - " The intention was to give an example of how the over length problem is created through lack of knowledge. My intentions were to back up the possibility of the problem being created after the van was delivered to the original owner. Jayco vans now come without bumper bars but many owners have added them - this could produce over length problems with the longer vans.

PeterD

Firstly, thank you all for your suggestions & ideas. I had a mate round this arfo and naturally we had a yarn about all the whatifs.
Plan A - wait until I get a formal reply from Qld Vehicle Stands, Vic Roads reply to see if they issued an exemption when it first got registered or at the time of manufacturing. If not........
Plan B - wait until the new rego comes in April 2010 and rego in Vic through a mate down there because we will be on the road. We would have to take the manufacture to court for them to do anything. We even had a quick look at putting a third axle assemble on but wow what a job.
Plan C - yep???
Stay Well
Makka

Hi TotalPM,
I am a cockroach by birth and there's a few things good about NSW but, when I bought this van and looked at the Vic Roads certificate of registraion
( rego April 2009) this is classified as a 25ft ( which it isn't, it's bigger) & cost $50.25.
Thats very good. In Qld it will be around $180.00, I don't know what it is in other states.
Makka