Patawarta Gap - PAR 4 and 5

Submitted: Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 17:47
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Hi folks

Planning a trip on PAR 4 and 5 in November. Has anyone or should anyone take a 4WD trailer on these roads. I am aware that the tracks are pretty rough but appreciate any experience/advice that anyone might have.

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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 18:16

Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 18:16
Haven't been that way since 2004 but towed a bush traler at that time. Artimore Track had great gouges in it and the track to Patawarta Gap put the trailer at all angles but I got through without any problems. Just take it easy and you will be OK
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Reply By: DesF - Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 20:06

Thursday, Oct 08, 2009 at 20:06
Hi, We have done those tracks in both the Subaru 1984 and in the Pajero 1989 with the women, have not taken a trailer, I think the ball coupling would get a workout if you only have that, just take it easy and no probs we were up there the June long weekend on the bikes and the tracks didn't seem to be much different, than a couple of years ago.
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Reply By: Member - Coenens N (WA) - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:38

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:38
Hi Go ahead and enjoy it - we did it last year with 80 series and heavy duty camper trailer in tow. We camped 3 lovely cool, quiet nights at Artimore ruin and drove up to the gate at Mt Patawarta (don't take the trailer in this section) for a look and a walk. Then drove out through the gap to Moolooloo Station and Glass Gorge. It can be done, very slowly and carefully without any damage to property or track. It is worth the effort, the scenery is spectacular.
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Reply By: RobAck - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 19:02

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 19:02
Unless something has changed that PAR is not a through road. Normally the gate is shut and you are entering private property for which you require permission to transit. But there are plenty of options for your return journey by back tracking and going to Bollona Bollana etc

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RobA
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 19:23

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 19:23
Rob
I thought PAR's are Public Access Routes that don't require the permission of the landowner to transverse??

Doesn't the landowner receive money from the state government to pay for maintenance of the route so that the public may use it rather than build a whole new road??

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Reply By: RobAck - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 20:25

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 20:25
The PAR is a loop. When you get to the carpark at Patawarta gap there is a gate that is the access to Moolooloo. As per comments above where people said they have traversed this section it is private property and permission is requried. The PAR is clearly marked on the RAA Flinders map which is probably the most up to date and accurate

Property owners have PAR enacted on government leased land. This can be seen by some as an imposition and given the random acts of human incompetence experienced in the Flinders and Outback you can appreciate why some property owners are scarred by the experience. And no they do not receive any money to the point where they could possibly afford to put a grader across their PAR's on a regular basis

With sensitive use these areas will remain open however as use increases and along with it comes a group of wilful 4WD owners who do not appreciate the opportunity then these tracks will eventually close. Given that South Australia and the SA 4WD clubs have spent considerable volunteer time and effort, unfunded, to work with Government and property owners to bring these PAR about then those of us who have put in the work will be rightly upset to see them closed as a result of insensitive actions. Access is a privelage even in the Simpson Desert and the Beachport parks. Some recognise it as such and act responsibliy. Some don't and sadly we see this more and more as we operate across SA and the Outback

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RobA
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Follow Up By: Willem - Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 21:09

Friday, Oct 09, 2009 at 21:09
Oh ye and ye politically correct "Its a privilege". Typical club speak!

Seems to me its a privilege just to exist.

I do not advocate willy-nilly access to areas but maybe the pastoral industry must either open their vast and sometimes uneconomical properties up and charge a fee, or lock their gates and shut all and sundry out. Back to the Fuedal days of NO TRESSPASSING ON MY LAND! Off with his head!

Random access by those who do not care is an acknowledged problem in the Flinders Ranges though
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