GPS with street navigation

Well, I'm totally stumped. I've been researching Navigators that can tell me where to go in the city and will also get me across the Simpson. There is a lot of conflicting info on these units all over the net. I am leaning towards the Hema but am still in the dark. I have loaded Ozimaps onto my laptop as a friend has done,(he has his laptop mounted in the cab), but this option is not for me. I would love a windscreen mounted unit with as large a screen as possible with all the detail that I require at the best possible price with the least input on my part. I'm not a computer dummy but have other things to spend my time on other than setting or resetting and loading info into a machine.
Help!!!!
Jim
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Reply By: Member - Josh J (NT) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:13

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:13
Hi Jim,

i have just gone through the same thing as you, after much procastination i puchased a VMS 430 and am very happy with it, Toppo mapping is great, you can also add Hema and Geoscience Topo maps if you like (Though i must say the maps supplied are fantastic and show services available in towns etc, mine came loaded with both Oziexplorer and memory Map.

All in all very happy, i am going across the Anne Beadell in early December so will be taking it for a spin...Maps of the Anne Beadell are very detailed.

Good luck

Josh
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:32

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:32
Hi Jim,

No single program will cover both city and country driving, but the good news is there are a few devices that run multiple programs and map references to give you both.

The two most popular are the Garmin Nuvi or the Hema Navigator both of which come with dual applications for voice guided city navigation and country navigation with a moving map, showing where you are at any given time.

Both devices have a built-in GPS unit to lock on to satellites.

The Hema Navigator which runs OziExplorer for country wide navigation is more compatible with plot files available of this site, but is also the more expensive for the initial purpose.

The Garmin Nuvi running "Shonky maps" (which is free) is a start, but serious users purchase OzTopo for more accuracy and functionality.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:40

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 18:40
I reackon this unit will suit your needs , big screen , and you can add the Topo maps later if you want ,

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:17

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:17
Hi Jim
From our many outback travels, I have also favoured using OziExplorer. Having said that I also have a Garmin Nuvi 5000 with Garmin Topo Australia. As for a city street navigator, it is great, but not very impressed when using Garmin Topo Australia. I know that Garmin are going to release a new version of Topo Australia in 2010 that should solve many tracks that are not as accurate as they should be. Hema are also about to release, if not already a 5" new model Navigator which should be all what you want in one unit.

As for crossing the Simpson, it is a very easy trip, with very easy to follow tracks. The only advantage of using moving maps out there, is that you will know exactly where you are at any given time.

Another way which I also have and use is a 8.9" mini notebook mounted on the console with OziExplorer and using Natmap Topo 2008 digital maps.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:40

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 19:40
Its an often asked question Jim.

No unit comes complete with everything you want because tracks change sometimes quite fast.

The solution is a unit which does all the other things and yet allows you to upload your own tracks or those from sites like this then navigate them (as opposed to looking at them on a screen ).

The only unit that does the lot and is also marine rated (waterproof and with high level output screen) is this unit.

http://www.gpsoz.com.au/garmin/garmin_276c.htm

It ain't cheap and should be brought as a package as it uses its own type memory card.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 21:37

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 21:37
"The only unit that does the lot"

As discussed before the 276 is a good unit but it actually doesn’t “do the lot” and in fact lacks many features of other units (though has a few others don't).

No voice prompts is possibly a feature some would like in a street nav unit so the 276 fails the "does the lot" in this respect.

Being waterproof is a bonus but not sure I would pay the extra for this when its sitting on the dash in the car all the time. Good for those deep water crossing I suppose :)

Always a tough question to answer.

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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:57

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:57
Hi Greg

I remembered your note when this question was just asked a couple of weeks ago and so mentioned to get the 276c with its mem cartridge , after a couple more of these we should perfect answers we can cut and paste.

On the spoken voice assistant , they do have it , and more than that they put it to the output plug so that you can wire in your own seperate speaker.

Maybe you mean some special type of reply type ? , anyway I hate being told what to do by a female voice so I have disconnected the voice and use its multiple beep option, but some friends like the voice.

The features of waterproofness and high screen output are needed because the 276c is also designed to fit in your pocket and be taken for a walk or to double as a marine unit subject to salt spray on a boat hence in addition it also takes the blue charts.

I'm pretty sure its the only unit that does the lot in one way or another, even
has a sonar sensor input for deep water , but I'm hoping we never need that.







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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:12

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 08:12
Hi Greg

I think I know where the impression that it does not have voice comes from - while it does have it there is no internal speaker, the speaker is part of a seperate 12v cigarette lighter power plug acessory, or you add your own external one.
Its designed like this as part of its boat specification , where you can have voice warning below in a cabin as well.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:58

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:58
No worries - my mistake, learn something every day (re sound). The 276 is a great unit but still don’t think it does the lot. Memory cards could be a signifficant issue for some so worth mentioning when ever discussing this unit.

For some I would actually suggest getting a far cheaper Nuvi to handle the in car stuff and a handheld for outdoors work...all possible at a less cost than the 276 by itself (depending on what models you choose). Though trouble with this plan would be cost of two sets of maps (if you got Oztopo or Garmin topo that is). Main conundrum people have to day (as we see by the frequent questions on the subject) is too many choices.
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Reply By: qubert - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:29

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:29
i have a laser brand street gps. it was 168 dol. i went to cape york and it had all roads including old telegraph track , creb track and recently discovered has got all the roads in the barakula state forrest..
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:49

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:49
I was in "The REJECT Shop" in Busselton yesterday and they had some cheap chinese navigators which had on the box

Runs on WINDOWS CE 5

so should be able to run some of the off road mapping programs

Were all of $149
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Reply By: Peter McG (Member, Melbourne) - Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:54

Tuesday, Oct 13, 2009 at 20:54
Do a search on Ebay for "GPS 4.3" and you will find loads of units that will do what you need. Choose one that runs WinCE 5 and you will be able to use SDHC cards and so have the town navigation program - often a great program called iGO - and Oziexplorer CE for offroad maps. You should only pay around $220 for the GPS. Then downlaod OziCE and buy the Hema maps - around $150 and your all set.

I've had this setup for three years now. Same result as the Hema navigator and less than half the price.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:58

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 07:58
I've done the same for the last three years too, the unit hasn't missed a beat in all that time and many thousands (16.5k over 4 months this year alone).
Has proven to be very reliable, much more so than a laptop or PDA which I ran previously.
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Reply By: KennyBWilson - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:49

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 09:49
I brought myself a cheap 7" Chinese GPS which runs the lot, Igo8, Polnav, OziCe and garmin XT Mobile , it also pays movies and mp3's . has bluetooth for hands free for the phone too
I do also run the Garmin 760 along side it for second map, Running one program won't do it all thats why I have 2 going.

I found the Hema Navigator was too small to use with my fat fingers, and 3 times the price when you can buy a Mio and buy the maps you need but if you already have Ozi on the laptop then why buy them twice.
You will need to convert them to .ozf
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:35

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:35
You can use the same maps for Ozi on the laptop and the PDA/CE device without conversion? Did I misunderstand you? Sorry if I did.

Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - John B (NSW) - Friday, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:24

Friday, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:24
I've just bought a 7" Chinese too. When you are setting up OziExplorer what answer do you select for "GPS Make?"

John B
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:51

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:51
Re voice prompts. No matter which unit you buy, check that the voice prompts give the name of the road/street. Quite a few don't, they just say turn left in 300 metres. It is much better to have a unit that says " Turn left in 300 metres at Smith St." Especially in the city, this is much more useful as you don't have to keep looking down at the unit to check street names.
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Reply By: Jim Liddle - Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 16:32

Wednesday, Oct 14, 2009 at 16:32
Thanks everyone for all your help. I think that I may wait for the larger screen Hema. I hope I'm doing the right thing.
Gulp!
Jim
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Thursday, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:11

Thursday, Oct 15, 2009 at 16:11
sorry if someone has already said this but the forum is very long. The Hema has a new model coming out with a larger screen BUT most importantly I have been informed by a shop here in Adelaide that they have also changed the manufacturer as they were not happy with the reliability of the current model. Coming out Jan next year apparantly but the 5" screen will be the clincher that you are buying the new model and not the old stock.
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