Reversing cameras

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 14:05
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Hi all, I need some advice regarding reversing cameras.
We want to fit one to our Ranger. Having tinted glass in the canopy, the rear view is not good, when loaded,there's no view at all.
The main use will be lining up the tow coupling for our camper trailer & general reversing. Not necessarily to view traffic approaching from the rear. What’s the best type of camera & camera location for this?
From the info I have gathered to date, wireless is crap……..maybe revision mirror mounted could be the go.(already got Sat nav screen, don’t want another screen, and ,yes I am aware you can get combination Sat navs & reversing).
I am eager to get this done, so any one got some positive ideas on best brand, type & costs?
Any help welcome.
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Reply By: DIO - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 14:49

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 14:49
I use wireless and it works OK for me. What you need is a number plate reversing camera LINK although I understand you don't want another monitor. Perhaps you will have to improve your mirrors or have someone stand at the rear of the vehicle directing you when reversing or manouvering etc.
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Follow Up By: Member - Terry W (ACT) - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 15:09

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 15:09
Like you we did not want another screen. After looking at all the options we bought an Eclipse AVN6000 about three or four years ago. This is a double din sized unit which replaces the stereo. It includes a GPS and CD/DVD/MP3 player as well as the camera, and can be made Bluetooth and IPOD capable with a couple of add on modules. We didn't bother.

We have two cameras, one in the number plate lamp housing, and the other on the rear of the van. We simply change plugs at the coupling to connect or disconnect the van camera. The beauty of this syystem is that you can leave the van camera on when travelling if you want to. Many other similar system only show the camera image when reverse is selected.

This system is not cheap, and unless you have or can make a double din opening it won't fit, but it works well for us, especially since I wanted to replace the stereo anyway.

The only down side is that it uses WhereIs software, so does not have topographic maps built in, but I can live with that.

VMS and Pioneer make similar systems which may be worth a look too.
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Follow Up By: Alpal1 - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 15:35

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 15:35
Thanks guys, the number plate camera seems an interesting possability,.
Not sure I want to go to the expense of the in dash type(would be nice though).
Is there any disadvantages using the rear view mirrow attachment system? After all, it's a natural reflex, when reversing , to look in the rear view mirror
I believe the cost issue would be to use Ebay ????
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Follow Up By: henpecked - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 17:52

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 17:52
I found that due to the reflective qualities of the mirror it was worse than hopeless as a monitor.
To overcome this I have mounted a monitor on the extreme left hand side of the windscreen, angled towards the driver so it doesn't obscure forward vision at all.
My smaller Navman is mounted in the centre of the windscreen with no vision problems..
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 20:47

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 20:47
If you do a search on reversing cameras This question gets asked at least once a week.

I have tried them all
Wireless is crap on a van because of the amount of metal between camera and receiver,

Rearview mirror sreen is the same. THe screen is not bright enough to overcome the reflection in the mirror and my car has very dark tinted windows and its still no good
I even tried translucent matte finish plastic over the screen area but still was crap.
I have a Polaris 3 1/2 in screen and two minicams and it works perfectly.

Look in my profile lots of pics on how it is all mounted.

Dont need a flash VMS as most screens allow for two cameras and have mirror reversal view as well

I have a dual circuit power connection as well so can have either camera on all the time.
In my Patrol I had the screen velcroed to the overhead console and folded it down on the far left of the rearview mirror when needed .


Is a far better idea than using the mirror for a screen.

Cheers look at the pics



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Reply By: Member - Netnut (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 21:33

Sunday, Nov 08, 2009 at 21:33
Hello Alpal1,
I bought a reversing camera system from a bloke in Windsor, Melbourne. Actually, he talked me into buying it during a weak moment. I'm glad he did ! I use the system a lot, especially when reversing out of car parks; people keep trying to commit suicide by walking behind me when I'm backing out.

I mounted the slim fully-sealed number plate camera - it's about 100mm wide and it has a lens that swivels through 90 degrees - on the tailgate stop light of my DC Hilux. The camera will also operate in the dark.

I mounted the camera so that it blends in with the tailgate stop light where most folk don't see it. My canopy has a stop light mounted on the tinted rear window and so I was prepared to drill through the light above the tailgate handle. I threaded the wiring for the camera along the loom that was already in place to service the stop light; made for a very tidy job.

Having the camera up high means that I can aim it down to see the towball or level it out to see who's travelling behind if the Hilux's tub is really full. The hooded screen sits on a home-made bracket to the RHS of the dashboard, about 20mm clear of the driver's door. It's angled towards the LHS a tad, but this doesn't affect the view. In fact, it protects the screen from glare entering through the driver's side window.

The system I bought comes complete with all you need: camera, screen, wiring loom, instructions, handbook, remote control etc. for around $320. It will handle two cameras, so I installed a second camera on the rear of my camper trailer. I managed to connect the wiring to the trailer by myself. The system's salesman was happy to sell me the extra camera and wiring loom for around $100 and he threw in some dinky terminators for when the camper wiring is disconnected; keeping dust out of the contacts.

I was able to instal the wiring loom - some connectors are dedicated screw types - and get an auto sparky to complete the final connection in order to be able to have the system working whenever the ignition is turned on. Interestingly, the Victorian Government has just introduced new rules to stop me from using the system unless I'm reversing or towing something which obscures my rear vision.

So, my best advice....
1) Don't buy a cheap unit unless you're skilled enough to work out the idiosyncracies by yourself.
2) Mount the camera high to improve the views you can achieve.
3) Send me an e-mail and I'll give you the contact details for the supplier. You can then see his wares on his web site.
Cheers,
Netnut





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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Monday, Nov 09, 2009 at 00:01

Monday, Nov 09, 2009 at 00:01
Safety Dave?????????????????



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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:33

Monday, Nov 09, 2009 at 07:33
Alpal,

I have a system I originally purchased from
Brash Imports a Melbourne based company which consisted of a rectangular camera and rear view mirror monitor.

I have recently upgraded my vehicle and decided on the number plate camera which located better on the rear. Have installed the camera and located the mirror monitor, now all I have to do is connect the two together:-(

My problem is I'm buggered if I can find a suitable entry point for the cable into the cabin area of the vehicle. The cable has a moulded 4 pin plug which requires a hole of around 17mm. A suitable rubber grommet is not a problem but the Colorado does not provide additional entry points through the firewall.

I would give you a review of how good the number plate camera is compared to my previous one if I could.

Bill.



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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 00:33

Tuesday, Nov 10, 2009 at 00:33
Have a look at the lower rear of the cab There are usually blank grommets there which you can cut a slit in and fit it thru



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