Pumping Diesel from Jerry Cans
Submitted: Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:13
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PandJ
Good Day All,
We have two Jerry's on the front of our camper trailer and I want to purchase a 12 volt pump to transfer the fuel into Patrol.
Did have an wanted ad for a fuel pump on this site but negative response to it.
Is there anybody out there that transfers fuel via a 12 volt fuel pump, if so what are you using?
Was told by a local Camper Trailer agent I could use a Marine pump that he sells. It's made of plastic and I would like to know what material the impeller is made of. Don't think diesel would do the impeller much good if plastic.
Your thoughts and ideas will be appreciated. Cheers P&J
Reply By: guzzi - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:20
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:20
Have you thought of a Tanami pump?
Uses air from your compressor which can be located away from the jerry cans to force fuel out of the can into the hose and to the vehicle, no moving parts, no electricity near fuel.
Have a look here.
http://www.tanamipump.com.au/
I have no affiliation with these guys or the product, just a bloody good idea (why didnt I think of it) and intrinsicly safe from an electrical point of view.
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Follow Up By: PandJ - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:59
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:59
guzzi
Had a look but not for me. Once set up will be quicker than playing with air compressor.
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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 23:20
Tuesday, Nov 24, 2009 at 23:20
PandJ, how many seconds do you want to empty it? It can be too quick - that is why they use a small outlet tube. I am with you guzzi, keep the fuel away from any electrical source. I made one with a bigger pipe and it emptied the can in no time, flooding the mower with fuel.
I could imagine a bigger transfer pump for a 100 litre
tank or more, but two or three jerries is nothing.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:21
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:21
PandJ,
If the pump is for transferring fuel and it is a marine pump it should be OK. Most applications for marine use would be pumping diesel.
I have also found that to transfer fuel via a pump will take a dogs age. It would be quicker to pour the fuel from the jerry straight into the
tank of the vehicle.
Wayne
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Follow Up By: PandJ - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 13:08
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 13:08
Wayne,
I am not sure about diesel in the marine pump, I am getting him to find out what they are designed for. I borrowed my neighbours pump from an early nissan and it took about 5mins to do a jerry yesterday.
As for emptying by hand....
well the older we get the heavier they get!
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:44
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:44
G/Day, Ask at any Rural hardware outlet, there is a whole aray of different fuel pumps , McNaught,etc, Would go for the electric ones !, less mess &take up less storage room, what ever you buy make sure its designed for whatever fuel your using or it won't last...good luck.
Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:02
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:02
The tanami pump takes less than 2 mins to pump 20 litres. I use the compressor hose (or other short hose with valve fittings) connected to the spare tyre on the camper. Don't have to lift or even move the jerry cans. Simple, no mess.
regards,
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 17:44
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 17:44
That is what I used to do too Fred.
Worked a treat. I had the spare inflated to around 55 psi and made up an air hose with a locking air fitting on each end and a valve to control airflow.
Unfortunately my new vehicle doesn't have a rear mounted spare so I have purchased a "portable drill" style 12 volt compressor.
Diesel isn't a particularly volatile fuel and I don't believe there is a safety issue.
Bill.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jack - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:33
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 21:33
Hi Fred:
This is interesting. Does the pressure valve on the pump not 'pop off' due to the amount of air pressure being applied through the pump.
I have a Tanami pump and was going to adapt it to be used as a shower in the bush, and had thought the spare tyre could be used, but then opted for the compressor. Have 'road tested' it home and it is fine, but the spare tyre is a good idea.
Thanks
Jack
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:30
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 14:30
I've been doing this task off and on for years with diesel - on my camper trailers - bloke at work gave me a 12V fuel pump out of a Magna I think (petrol) - one that resides inside the car's fuel
tank. I simply put some straight flexible tubing on the intake that drops into the jerry - the outlet has a few metres of hose to take the fuel to the vehicle
tank. It's powered from any available 12V cigarette outlet. To avoid the usual diesel drips / mess, I drain the hoses
well, wrap it all in a cloth and store it in a plastic bag. Has mainly been used to allow for a smug cruise past some of those outrageously exploitative fuel retailing extortionists on remote highways around Oz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ann D (WA) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 17:48
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 17:48
Hi,
For many years I have and still use an electric fuel pump aftermarket type
with a filter just before the pump,connected with either clips or round 12v plug,not the fastest method of fuel transfer,origionaly designed to reach the furtherest jerry can in the boot.
Hope you find something from all suggestions to suit you
Cheers
Ann
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Follow Up By: PandJ - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 15:00
Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 15:00
Hi Darain and Ann,
This is exactly what I want to do, how long does it take to empty 20 ltrs ?
Thanks P&J
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:45
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:45
My guess is it it would be a good 10 minutes + per jerry. I presume these in-car fuel
tank pumps are not required to produce high flow rates.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 15:51
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 15:51
I use a 3/4" super syphon (jiggler).
I jacknife the trailer so that when I can sit the jerry on top of the camper and simply syphon the fuel into the car.
The 3/4" is the biggest that will fit in the mouth of a jerry and it takes less than 1 minute to syphon the full jerry.
Duncs
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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:12
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 19:12
Oi!
Come around and I will show you how a Home Made Tanami Pump works :-)
Chs
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Follow Up By: River Swaggie - Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:18
Sunday, Nov 15, 2009 at 23:18
He hasn't a BIG SET OF LUNGS like you Will ! lol
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Follow Up By: PandJ - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 15:03
Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 15:03
Aww ok Wiiiy will do,...and Swaggie I thinks you heard Willy breathing hey?
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Reply By: Member - Mfewster(SA) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 06:45
Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 06:45
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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:15
Reply By: Member - Ann D (WA) - Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:42
Monday, Nov 16, 2009 at 23:42
Hi PandaJ,
Have no idea as to how long it takes to trans fuel it is not the fastest method but it suit me, i have a 60l
tank inside the defender and to emptyit takes about 20 to 30 mins approx I think never really timed how long it takes
As one is never in a hurry when i'm on hols it does'nt matter how long it takes me. Usually long enough to drink a coffee.
Hope U find some thing to suit U
Cheers
Ann
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Reply By: Member - Bentaxle - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 22:49
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2009 at 22:49
Tanami pump is the way to go
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 01:11
Thursday, Nov 19, 2009 at 01:11
P&J
saw these in the 12 Volt
shop today.
Diesel /
Water Submersible & Inline Pumps
These pumps are ideal for pumping fresh
water or diesel fuel where a small, inexpensive pump is required. Commonly used for
bore water samples or moving diesel from drums or tanks.
Features Amazon Congo
- Current Draw 2.3/4.5amp 3/6amp
· Flow Rate 18 L/min 36 L/min
· Pressure 15psi 14psi
· Head 10mtr 9.7mtr
· Size LxD 166x38 166x38
· Weight 500g 600g
PUAM12 12V Submersible Pump $139.99
PUAM24 24V Submersible Pump $139.99
PUCO12 Congo 12V Submersible $199.99
PUCO24 Congo 24V Submersible $199.99
Cheers
Richard
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Reply By: funfun - Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:25
Monday, Nov 23, 2009 at 22:25
Hi
Using Marine pump for pumping diesel won't be good for long term. As the diesel will make pump's o-ring and plastic housing fragile.
I suggest you get a proper 12V fuel transfer pump. Have a look this link as they have few 12V fuel pumps that would suit you.
12V fuel transfer pump
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