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fuch's oils good or bad?
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C. (QLD) - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:24

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:24
They are a major player in the game...

As good as (if not better than) any other as far as I can ascertain.

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Confucius say.....
"He who lie underneath automobile with tool in hand,
....Not necessarily mechanic!!"

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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:51

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:51
hi
i have used it in tractors and 4wds over a period of years and cant fault it also used there transmission oil as well great products
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:34

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:34
I've mostly used fuch's oils for the past 5 years or so. Can't find fault but how would you know???? Oils seem all the same to me - the Toyotas are not fussy when it comes to oils.

Currently use the Titan Ultralube 15W40 Ci-4 in the 20 litre drums - get it from the Don Kyatt shops. It used to be very cheap, but I think I paid about $110 for the last couple of drums I bought. You can buy the Titan Universal HD CG-4 which is fine for most older diesels, and is cheaper.
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Follow Up By: Member - mazcan - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:53

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:53
hi
titan is owned by fuchs
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:56

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:56
Yep!!! :-))
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:40

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 22:40
We tried it once in the 80T/D. Got as far as Greenvale from Toowoomba and she was nearly gone. Put Castrol straight back in.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 00:09

Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 00:09
Can you elaborate a little on- "she was nearly gone"?
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 22:04

Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 22:04
Only tip of dipstick had oil on it.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 23:01

Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 23:01
Barring other issues with the engine, It sounds like a case of the wrong viscosity oil for the vehicle??


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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 23:08

Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 23:08
John your probably right have herd some oils are too good for some engines. Not going back there all the same. Scared the heck out of us.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:17

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 02:17
I seriously doubt that viscosity could be to blame. any of the diesel oils they make would be in the ball park at least. Dont know how far apart those 2 places are but unless 1 is in Tas and the other NT/WA then Id be looking at the clown who did the oil change. Probably didnt top it up after the filter was changed.
Id be CERTAIN that unless it was canola oil by mistake, Fuchs (or even the crappiest cheapest monograde engine oi)l wouldnt churn through that much.
I cannot think of an engine fault that would cause it to use Fuchs and not Castrol.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:56

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:56
Yes good points fish.
I had thoughts of an oil so light it may have been passing the rings more so than it should have type theory.
The failure to top up properly after the oil change makes better sense.

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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 18:37

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 18:37
John & Fish, don't worry the mechanic got the roar end on the phone. Last time they ever touched the car. I think from memory it was about 1500km give or take not towing.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 19:14

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 19:14
certainly dont want to sound like one those pedantic fools that sometimes frequent this site-but dont you think it was a little - umm - misleading to imply that it was anything to do with FUCHS oil then?

I (and many others) have found Fuchs to be a top quality product, and its hard to see how anyone would connect Fuchs product with anything to do with your mechanic not filling the sump correctly.
Luckily it only took 7 followups to reveal that it was the mechanic and not the oil (subject of thread) that was at fault.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Nov 30, 2009 at 14:36

Monday, Nov 30, 2009 at 14:36
Hey fisho64 - agree with you - never let the facts get in the way eh!
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Monday, Nov 30, 2009 at 21:29

Monday, Nov 30, 2009 at 21:29
Still to this day I don't realy know what the problem was. I still wont use it. glad you guys find it great.
Enough said.
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Reply By: Wilk0 - Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 23:59

Friday, Nov 27, 2009 at 23:59
Hi Beegee,

My only experience with them is from a heavy industry /mining area and IMHO they are the undisputed leader.

Castrol is a close 2nd.

As far as oil for your 4x4 I assume they would be of good quality

Cheers Wilko
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 22:49

Saturday, Nov 28, 2009 at 22:49
I think its priced at the cheaper end of the market and thats why its so popular.

I am not suggesting that there is anything wrong with it because it is priced so cheap after all as Phil says above all oils are the same and are manufactured to Australian Standards.

Almost all sold in Aus come out of the same few refineries and are just packaged differently.
Just like most the Coles/Woolworth home brand stuff.

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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:13

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 03:13
John

"Almost all sold in Aus come out of the same few refineries and are just packaged differently.
Just like most the Coles/Woolworth home brand stuff."

Not quite right, the base oil maybe the same but after blending the end product fill be different.

Cheers

Kevin Rudd... LOL
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 04:10

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 04:10
Yeah thats always been the theory Richard but after 4 years working in a refinery and many more having my office quite near to a major aftermarket brand of oil's bottling plant I see the packaging process a little differently. :-)

20W-40 whether its in a Mobil, Shell, Castrol etc bottle is still 20W-40 oil.
The additive argument will also go on forever and thats a personal choice but I have yet to see a manufacturer of vehicle engines say that you should add Nulon or any other additive to make their product run better or last longer.


Kevin Rudd... LOL
Good to see you agree that the bloke is a joke :-))

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Follow Up By: RedJK - Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 14:15

Sunday, Nov 29, 2009 at 14:15
After API SG rating oil, things have changed slightly.
We are up to SM rating now.

Oils have been produced with less anti wear additives ( mainly zinc & phosphorous) to comply with the latest exhaust emission regulations.

SG oil contained roughly 1301ppm Phosphorus and 1280 ppm Zinc
SM oil contains roughly 770 ppm Phosphorous and 939 ppm Zinc

So the main antiwear additives have been substantially reduced.
No matter what brand of oil you use, the ratings are the same so the
oil you used six years ago or so is completely different to the same type & brand
that you put in your engine today.

Oils ain't oils Sol :)
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