Pat Callinan 4x4 TV Show

exactly

"Some of the infomercials you mention show great products I didn't even know existed. " - as long as they are ARB..... you wouldn't know about anything else if you watched... my 2c

He had a Navara for back up!

Quote: "But I suppose as he is sponsored by Nissan we would never hear about it."

Ain't that the truth!!!!!!

I'm not into fishing, but a few weeks ago it was too hot to go out to the shed and "play", so I channel hopped in here (house) with the air con blasting away.

I came across a fishing show of some sort, hosted by that ex rugby league footy star EEEETEEEE (or something or other like that). Anyway, seems it may be produced by the same clowns that do the 4x4 show with Pat Callinan (which I have never seen, by the way). The whole show seemed to be inter-locking commercials for Toyota and Coleman as well as some small 4-wheeler.

They were "flying" through muddy country tracks at stooopid speeds, getting the Lo-Lux (towing a trailer with the 4-wheeler on it) airborne on some of the mounds....all the while reminding us that this 4x4 is "unbreakable". Then they pull up for camp on the banks of a river and proceed to unpack all their Coleman gear as he proceeds to tell us how good the 16 room tent is and that it only takes 15 seconds to erect (I used to be like that when I was a teenager....hahahaha)..... and then he points out the virtues of Coleman's gas lantern and fold-up table and gas cooker etc etc..... It just went on and on....

Anyway, like another respondant said (above), I suppose there are folks out there who like this sort of stuff because they are just getting started in the hobby/passtime etc.

Roachie

I'll firstly declare some involvement in the Escape With ET show. The fact is that like it or not, with out the sponsorship support, these shows would not exist. Pat's show is produced by a completely different group to ET's show, but they would both be under the same pressures to produce a show that when there is very little financial reward from the networks and so they have to turn to sponsors and the sponsors naturally expect promotion. It may not be ideal but that's the way it is. On top of that you can't please everyone all the time and therefore you have to cater for a wide variety of experiences and interests - it's not easy. ET is up to the 11th series and that would not have been possible without the support of sponsors.

And Roachie, I particularly liked this bit, "Anyway, seems it may be produced by the same clowns that do the 4x4 show with Pat Callinan (which I have never seen, by the way)."

Probably best to at least watch it first, hey? But, look, I do agree the "ads" can be a little relentless, but it's not going to change anytime soon.

Yeh Shakey, I would like to watch at least one episode of the Pat C show, but where I live out here in the sticks, you just have to take whatever you are thrown, and so far (to my knowledge), the channels we receive have not presented Pat's show.

My comment: "Anyway, seems it may be produced by the same clowns that do the 4x4 show with Pat Callinan (which I have never seen, by the way)." was based solely on the description (by the original poster) of the way the show involved sooooo much product endorsement (ie: advertising) interwoven with the "real" show content.

I do hope I haven't offended you with my comments. The show was very professionally put together and you'd have to be fool not to realise the show is presenting advertsing in it's content. It seems to be the way things are going these days and started back in the days when John Laws was on radio.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember the big debacle that was called "Cash for Comment" that got good ol' Lawsie into hot water. It was pet peeve of mine at the time ..... that anybody with half a brain could have seen that Lawsie was being paid by the Banks to change (or try to) public attitudes towards banks in general. Here was a bloke who had taken any opportunity he could find to berate the banks for being big, nasty, uncaring institutions that had no time for the battlers.

Then, all of a sudden, he changed his tune and was airing the banks' point of view and saying that they aren't such bad buggars afterall. As I said, you don't have to be Rhodes scholar to work out that he was being paid for his positive comments. Lawsie is also the bloke who used to push a product called MORTEIN like there was no tomorrow with the addage "When you're on a good thing, stick to it". Then the mob that owns "RAID" came along with cheque book in hand and all of a sudden Lawsie is saying: Raid; when you find a better thing, switch to it".

I often wonder how big the cheque would have had to have been for Mr Nissan (or Ford, Holden etc) to get him to change his tune about Toyota???? hahahahahaha

Sorry, I sort of went off on a tangent there...the joys of being retired and having nothing better to do, eh!?

Roachie

Hi all,

IMHO Give me Malcolm Douglas anyday.

Cheers Wilko

Bill, Pat is on Sundays midday on Ch10 mate.

Geoff.

Oh, ok.....that explains it then.....I'd be in church.....hahahahaha

Malcolm Douglas has the added advantage of being both knowledgeable and passionate about what he does.

Hi Roachie, I can guarantee you one thing - you can't offend me!!!!!!! I agree with you all the way with regard to advertising content and the Laws debacle was just a total farce and I hope the general public learnt a valuable lesson from that and now know to step back and think about what is being presented to them objectively. And I also enjoyed your tangent and trust me, I'm plenty old enough to remember!!!!

I know the almighty dollar runs the world but I dont think Malcolm would ever reccomend or say something that he didnt believe. He is from an older time when your word was everything.

Cheers Wilko

I agree with you Andrew. Sometimes the public imagine a program/show is going to be something special & get disapointed when it's not. To imagine a show like Mr 4X4 & others existing without sponsorship plugs/sgments is unrealistic. So Pat & co damaged the shocks on the navara!!! I wonder if they were the factory stock standards? If so who said "You would be mad to come out here without good strong suspension like ARB" Pat who? I know there are always the knockers but take it all in the manner in which it was presented....advertising products that pay the bills so the programs can be put to air. I found some of the episodes interesting & anytime spent viewing our great country is a bonus. Personally I find the threads,articles & blogs on this medium far more interesting.

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Thanks
David (Signman)

Yep, couldn't agree more. Sure, there might be a few cringe worthy moments, but hey....it's a show about four wheel driving isn't it?.
I'd much rather be watching that, than anything involving canned laughter, tribal council, evictions, or Eddy bloody McGuire.

Cheers
Glenn

Yep, you got it in one mate!!

Cheers

Brian

"Glenndini replied: In a recent episode he claimed that a so called "sling shot" winch of another vehicle through a snatch block halved the load on the winch. It does no such thing."

I'm not sure I have the gist of your comment here Glenn, so I googled it, and from this web site here....

http://www.4wdworld.com.au/Tips-on-Snatch-Straps-and-Winching.html

was this part:
"Use a snatch block to halve the work load on the winch"

That's how I always thought of it, but I'm happy to be corrected if you are referring to something else.

Cheers

Brian

Thanks for that, I had a quick look at the web site, I need to read it thoroughly to digest it all. Not being a winch owner myself, I only had 2nd hand info to go on. Many thanks for your reply Glenn.


Cheers

Brian

I agree with Glenndinni.....

The easiest way to check this at home would be to rig up a small, domestic-size pulley on the ceiling of your shed. Have a small load (say 5kg....5 litres of water in a jerry can would do), and attach it to a rope, through the pulley and back down to floor. Now, pull on the rope to lift the bucket...... you will still require to exert 5kg of "power" on the downward-facing rope to get that bucket off the ground. All you done is change the direction of the force required to lift the bucket from an upwards direction to a downwards direction.

However, add another pulley on the handle of the bucket and run the rope through that and back up to the rafter, THEN when you pull down on the rope you will be halving the force required to lift the bucket.

Roachie

Roachie,
Now I get it. I can visualize what you're saying, and understand it as well!!! LOL..

Thanks for that, and thanks to Glenndinni too, I have learnt something about winching today!

Cheers

Brian

LOL...... Deep breaths, deep breaths.......


I do agree, I watched the Cape York one, now there's a couple of hours of my life I'll never get back! LOL...


Cheers

Brian

sorry but the Gall boys don't profess to be experts or perfectionists like some. Their stupidness or even stupidity simply represents a cross section of the travelling/camping public, like it or not. At least they are upfront in advertising their product and there is 10 times the content that you'd find in the self professed "Mr 4x4's" dvds which are no different than the monthly magazine that he uyed to edit.. If there was as much transparency and honesty in other dvds we'd be better entertained. The Kedron vids merely aim to show the limits of the van's capabilities and at least show us what you shouldn't do as well as what you should do. The difference is, they have the guts and honesty to show their mistakes and we get entertainment as well. Not an overly edited infomercial.

Isnt everything about money


The root of all evil and thats not a religious bent either

Steve,
Same here, but what made me laugh was the thread that was deleted because it was "advertising" the Canberra 4WD show. I didn't see it, just read the second thread questioning it. Then thread 75744 explaining it. For my 2C, I'd rather see threads talking about 4WD & camping shows twice a day every day than threads like 75716 that has 21 replies and 28 followUps pertaining to the dancing girl advert. (I haven't read it, I'm not knocking it, I'm not knocking anyone who posted on it or read it, or likes it, or anything else.) But what has that got to do with 4WD'ing? Yet, according to Cochran, Barnes & Hayes, "we can't allow Forum posts to promote outback events else our Forum would be full of such posts"

Yep..... money talks!

Cheers

Brian

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Cheers

Brian

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