4 x 4 TYRES

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I have a 2003 Nissan Patrol GU series 3 and have a set of Cooper ATR's that have done about 50,000km, still have plenty of tread but have hardened and are now breaking off. Tyres have been regularly rotated and pressures monitored with "Sense a Tyre", currently 32F and 34R. Have had a few scares recently in the wet and looking to replace tyres now. Does anyone have any suggestion for a good quality on and off road tyre (90% road/10% sand and beach). Preferably a tyre that is good in the wet. Also interested to hear about anyone else's problems with these tyres. I haven't contacted Coopers as yet. Tyres were purchased in Brisbane in 2006. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Reply By: fisho64 - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:42

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:42
" Have had a few scares recently in the wet"

move to western WA, you neednt worry about wet roads-for a long time! :-)
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Reply By: Madfisher - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:48

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 21:48
Hard to go past Bridgestone 694s imho. Wife has ATRs on her Nullarbor so cam make a good comparision. After staking the ATR with a small stick though the thread area, no more coopers for me.Kumhos are also good value and good in the wet. (tar)
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: wicket - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:08

Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 10:08
tick for the Kumhos, the KL78 is the one you should look at as it has proved to be v good on both wet tarred roads (on ute with lightweight tray ) as well as sand.
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Reply By: rosso1234 - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:13

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:13
Yep I agree, Had the ATR's on my Pajero. Crap on wet roads, almost to the point of being dangerous.

Can't go past some BFG A/T's

Just my 2c worth, yes I have used both on the same car to compare

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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:43

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 22:43
I have been running Cooper ST/C for about 6 years now. Just bought my 3rd set. I would get close to 70k out of a set. I have had one puncture, I picked up a 2 inch tech screw in the car park at K Mart in Ballina.

They are a fairly aggressive tread pattern that works well in mud on rocks and on outback dirt roads. I have also had them on Fraser and was happy with their performance. I reckon most tyres work OK on sand if you get the pressure low enough.

I first got onto them when I was living in Broken Hill. After moving to Sydney I thought I would go for something a little less aggressive. When I started to look around I wasn't impressed so I bought some more ST/C's. I am still happy, they do not provide the highway performance of a dedicated road tyre but they are at least as good as the BF Goodrich AT's that I had before the first set of Cooper's.

The ST/C,s are a softer compound so maybe that makes a difference.

My main reason for changing had less to do with the tyres and more to do with the attitude of the local Goodrich dealer when I asked him to look at a tyre I was concerned about. I think the Goodrich are generally a good tyre and if ever I have reason to change I will consider them again but so far I am happy with the ST/C's

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Reply By: Barnesy - Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 23:44

Sunday, Feb 07, 2010 at 23:44
It's nothing new for Coopers to chip, the ST's I had began chipping literally the first time I left the bitumen. The rubber compound is so hard there's no give in them.

Anything in the Bridgestone AT/dueller range or BFG will be good. Certainly better than Cooper.
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Reply By: Member -Tukka (WA) - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:55

Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:55
Do a thread search on this topic, i think you will find more than enough or maybe even too much info

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Reply By: snoopy2 - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 17:02

Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 17:02
Hi nobster1,

A friend on mine had Cooper Tyres on his Curiser and he used to bank on one paying one accident insurance excess every time it rained. Needless to say he got rid of them very quickly.

Tread still has plenty of like in them but no wet road grip.

I use the 694's and have never has any issues with wet road grip.


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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 20:11

Monday, Feb 08, 2010 at 20:11
I have used and reccomend the B/Stone Dueller. The 693 tread pattern was great 3 or 4 times over (had 3 or 4 sets of these but I think they are extinct now, I used to get 80 000km a set), now the 694 10 ply jobs are serving me very well too. So far 27,000km on them since Dec 09 and you would hardly tell they are more than a week or two old, still great tread depth but this lot hasn't seen much offroad (sadly) apart from about 2000km in west Qld.

Cheers, Trevor.
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Reply By: Injected - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 03:44

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2010 at 03:44
Currently have Cooper ATR's in 267/75 R16 on a Nissan D40 Navara. Had the ATR's since new (vehicle) and dangerous in the wet (tropics). Great trailer tyres now as they wont wear out. Went with BFG A/T's, great tyre. Also considered Mickey Thomson 4 ribs
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