Winch

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 23:33
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Anyone have any info on these. my Warn has gone on strike after the hammering I gave it last weekend.

12000lb Ironman Winch - for $899.00

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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 23:56

Thursday, Mar 04, 2010 at 23:56
Some feedback on 'em here>>

E/O archived thread 49544

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Confucius say.....
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....Not necessarily mechanic!!"

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 00:07

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 00:07
Thanks Ed, didn't learn much but gee that Doug T was cranky old bugger eh , lmao

I did notice in some other winch test the Ironman 9.5 was in 4th with Warn at 2nd

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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:50

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:50
Wonder why the archived thread date is 2007 but Doug's avatar date is 2010?
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:42

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:42
Bob,

Members Avatar change even in Archived threads ;)
Modifications to your log in name will change for every reply/follow up though.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 00:16

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 00:16
I think I have just found what I needed to know.


Ironman 4x4 products are designed in Australia and distributed throughout the world.
Originally established in 1958, as a Melbourne based suspension parts manufacturer, named Jacob Spring Works. The company in 1982 took shape as JSW Parts, (short for Jacob Spring Works) to design and supply leaf and coil springs for cars, trucks, buses and 4x4 vehicles. JSW Parts soon became well known as a manufacturer and supplier of suspension parts all around the world.
Guenter Jacob
JSW Founder

In 1988 JSW Parts launched the Ironman 4x4 brand of springs and suspension parts in response to the increasing popularity of 4x4 vehicles, recognizing that standard suspension systems alone were not designed to cope with additional loads of bull bars, winches and extra fuel tanks,
Driven by explosive sales of 4x4’s, in 2004 the Ironman 4x4 range of products expanded quickly to meet the demand of off road users seeking solutions which would allow their vehicles to go off road loaded with accessories such as winches, recovery equipment, protective bars, canopies, lighting and electrical upgrades.

Today the vast continent of Australia serves as the perfect testing ground for Ironman 4x4 products, so whether crossing the outback in search of adventure or just driving the children to school in your local suburb, Ironman 4x4 can offer quality and value for money.

Many fleet and military organisations throughout the world have acknowledged the quality design and manufacture of Ironman 4x4 products. Together with these serious solutions, Ironman 4x4 products are also chosen the world over by offroad competition teams and drivers, and have successfully completed the Dakar Rally.


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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:12

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 06:12
Doug

I've just read the archived thread referred to above.

What exquisite irony!

One helpful contributor said:

"I just done a search for these winches and found this.

9,500lb "Wireless" ELECTRIC 'MONSTER' WINCH - 12volt includes FREE SHIPPING!!! IRONMAN 9,500lb "Wireless" ELECTRIC WINCH - 12volt - incl. Bonus Safety Blanket & FREE SHIPPING!!! $759.95

Now for that kind of money it has to schitt, absolute schitttttttt"

Thank you. I haven't enjoyed irony like that for a very long time.

Actually, the last time that close was when a member of my wine club stood up in front of a large gathering at a masked tasting and absolutely bagged a wine, calling it everything he didn't like about a particular style of wine. This guy is a very knowledgeable guy and a wine maker in his own right. When the wine was unmasked it was his own current release!

Bob

PS Better check to see where it was made.
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Follow Up By: Shaver - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 15:41

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 15:41
Yes after following Doug's inquiry about the Ironman 12,000lb when his Warne packed it in, it makes one wonder about his bagging of this product, maybe he wasn't offered a discount. No reply is needed Doug, as I am only a non Member. Touche !
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Reply By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:37

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 07:37
Well given the comments, particularly those in the archive, maybe I'm setting myself up by saying that I just installed a 12000lb Ironman winch on my LC200.

Cost $1100 installed against $2500 for a Warn 9500lb and a 3yr warranty vs. 2yr for the Warn. Now I know that will mean zit if I'm stuck up to the bonnet in muddy water and the bugger fails, but my feedback is that the Warn is just as likely to fail. The Ironman is fully waterproof so it SHOULDN'T fail in water..!!

I am a retired electrical engineer and the quality looked pretty damn good to me and, like any piece of mechanical/electrical equipment, you have to maintain it. Initially, I wasn't going to put in a winch at all but I am too old and my right shoulder has been reconstructed so a 'Tirfor' was out of the question.


It is made in China but despite some knockers, that doesn't mean poor quality anymore and by the way, the TJM Ox is made in the same factory and looks to me to be the same winch with a different name.

The other thing is the wireless remote in addition to the wired remote and that works well, at least in my trial run.

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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:42

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:42
Couldn't Toyota fit one of their own to the LC200?
I have a V8 Troopy delivered with the Toyota winch fitted.
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Follow Up By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 06:40

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 06:40
Well, you learn something every day....!!!

Firstly, they are not an option on LC200 and secondly, I seriously doubt that Toyota build them, they probably use another make under their name..maybe Ironman??? But anyway, they are not mentioned anywhere that I can see on the LC200 website in Australia.

Another thing was that, when I bought the vehicle, I hadn't made up my mind as to the need, in my case, for a winch. Even now I'm unconvinced but it is insurance I guess.

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Follow Up By: Member - Donks1 (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:01

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:01
They are "SUPERWINCH" supplied by Toyota, but not compatible with the Toyota Alloy Bar..

superwinch

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Follow Up By: Member - Don M (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 10:56

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 10:56
OK, never heard of them but look OK in the literature in the link. 4082kg=roughly 9000lb which I guess is OK. I went for the 12000lb/5500kg to impose less stress.

And, not sure if you realise, I don't have a Toyota alloy bar. Mine is a TJM T15 which has a built in and rather solid, winch cradle and that is firmly bolted to the chassis. Additionally, it is a solid bash plate...I hope. And actually, the LC200 Toyota alloy bar can't take a winch of any description and that is the reason I went for TJM.

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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:24

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:24
The Superwinch is a genuine Toyota accessory.
I went though these issues with Toyota (not the dealer) before I ordered the vehicle.
They are compatible with the Toyota alloy bar fitted to the new Troopy. This has an internal steel winch cradle that bolts to the chassis.

I am not sure if they offer the winch as an assessory on the LC200 – but if they did it would be compatible and carry the same warranty as the rest of the vehicle.

Any way that car of yours looks too pretty to take offroad.
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Follow Up By: Member - Don M- Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 13:23

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 13:23
Too pretty...???

It's a tug mate and will go off road, at least the Cape in June this year and via the OTR(OTT?) Later will do the Simpson but that is about as serious as I will get. I'm no 'bush-basher' but I want a capable off roader which converts to a reasonable road car when I'm not off roading or towing and I reckon the LC200 suits it's purpose in my case.

Had a bit of work done, OME suspension as well as the snorkel, bar, winch, MT tyres (Baja ATZ 4 rib) EXO drawers, 2nd row platform so my Oz Tent fits flat inside, Icom IC440, roof racks, dual battery, (replaced twin crankers with deep cycle and higher CCA cranker with Redarc isolator)

I'm ready to roll.., 2 more weeks and we're off for 12-14 months. Towing a 24' van @ 2.75T ATM.
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Follow Up By: Dennis Ellery - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 13:47

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 13:47
Sounds like a good set up Don.
Those things have got a stack of power.
We did the loop around Australia 2 years ago from Perth up through Darwin.
Left the caravan in Cairns and went up to the Cape via the OTT – it was the highlight of our trip.
Lived in a tent for a month or so.

We are going to do few more loops over the coming years starting Perth to Tamworth this November – Not this trip but we’ll certainly do Cape York again. Have to do it before they fit me out with steel knees.

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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 23:08

Friday, Mar 05, 2010 at 23:08
it will be cheaper to rebuild your winch, or if near perth i will rebuild it for you
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Follow Up By: Gramps - Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:52

Saturday, Mar 06, 2010 at 07:52
Agree. If the Warn has performed well up till "after the hammering I gave it last weekend" , why not get it rebuilt ?

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