Handeld UHF charging in car.

G'day,
I've had a 1 watt UHF hand-held radio for a few years and it has been very handy as it has a cigarette lighter plug charger which plugs directly into the radio. Great for charging when on the move.
I'd like to upgrade to a 5 watt model now but find that all of them seem to now require a desktop charger. Most of these can be powered by a cigarette lighter charger but this is still not a lot of use in a vehicle on the road.

Does anyone know of a 5 watt UHF hand-held radio with a direct cigarette lighter charger?

(yes, I could install a mounted version but that's not what I want. Not much use when I go off on the bike)
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Reply By: obee1212 - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:29

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:29
when I bought my mp3 player I noticed a pack with 240v and 12v usb power supply and cable.The 12v plugged into the cig lighter socket. I bought it. The shop was called Good Guys but google around and get a better price unless someone else can come up with something for u on this line. Harvey Normal should have them too but accessories like cable from these places and camera shops tend to use the product as a bonus pocket money scheme. Computer shops usually got cheaper stuff. Their hdmi cables are a fraction of the price the electrical retailers charge.

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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:49

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:49
Not sure what this is supposed to answering. I know where to get HDMI cables very cheap thanks.
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Reply By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:32

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:32
Yep, my GME TX6200 will do that.

GME TX6200

Cheers
Glenn
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Follow Up By: Pete Jackman (SA) - Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 21:03

Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 21:03
Troopy is correct.
Got one and it does. We use an external antenna and all is good.

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Reply By: mikehzz - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:33

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:33
My 5 watt GME TX6100 hand held has a trickle charger that does what you want. It has a cigarette plug with split lead which will either plug into the desk cradle or directly into the device itself using the small input where the microphone jack is (which seemed odd to me?)
Mike
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:48

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:48
I've just checked the TX6200 and you seem to be correct. In the manual it shows a separate battery charging socket which takes a charger connected directly to it. It is not the same input as the microphone though (maybe a different version).

It does cost about %100 more than the TX6100 for this "privilege" though.
It looks the closest to what I was looking for, cheers.
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:53

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:53
Sorry but got these last 2 posts mixed up as they were posted so close together.

The TX6200 shows a separate charger input, that's cool.

If you are saying that the TX6100 also actually has a charger input (although no mention in the manual) then that's even better.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:21

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:21
I bought it as an optional extra from the ARB shop. It didn't come with the unit.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:49

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:49
Hi Glenndini
Like above, I have a 5w GME TX6100 hand held radio for when we are away from the vehicle. It is a great little compact UHF that can be charged from the car cigarette lighter socket.

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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:55

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:55
As above, this is not shown in the manual but that's what you guys are here for, thanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:59

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 20:59
Hi,
The cigarette lighter charger is not a standard part of the radio, and must be purchased as an accessory, from memory about $10

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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:09

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:09
My hand helds take AAA batteries and i carry rechargeables. Good back up to carry spare batteries when using them on walks or any time away from the charging source.

I carry a small charger which does AA and AAA from either 240 v (inverter in caravan) or cig plug. The 240 v is much quicker.

Glenndini, can you get the model you are wanting in a version that takes batteries?

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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:37

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:37
What I specifically want is to avoid is an extra charger, inverter or desktop cradle.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:59

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:59
Hi Glenndini

I have the charger because our cameras take AAs and torches take either AA or AAA, plus a few other electronic things run on these sizes. Our GPS also takes AAs so it can be used as a hand held away from the car - otherwise plugs in to cig lighter. Because we have our caravan, we have an inverter which is used mainly for charging camera batteries and phones, electric shaver and occasionally small power tools.

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Reply By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:10

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:10
Hi Glenndini

I did a google search & came up with the same as the others, GME 6200, but the trickle cig lighter charger is a $39 accessory. Google came up with Andrews Communications website here Andrews Communications

Shows GME Electrophone 6200 then scroll down the page for accessories

Cheers, Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - The Bushwhackers -NSW - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:19

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:19
Just noticed the listing for the 6100, about $120 cheaper than the 6200, and still does the cig lighter socket charging bit

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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:44

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 21:44
Yes, same here.
So far a GME TX6100 is winning. It appears from posts above that it does actually have a direct charger input despite this fact not being shown in the manual. The TX6200 has specific charger input shown in the manual but is about $100 more expensive.
The GME trickle charger will cost another $39. Prestige sell a generic one for $29, but plug might only fit the cradle and not directly into the radio.
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Follow Up By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:36

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:36
I have a GME 6200. The connection to 12 volt cigarette lighter is indirect. Extras required are the desktop charger base and a 12 volt lead. No big deal in the scheme of things. I found it is easier to recharge the unit when stopped than on the move.

If I was buying again it would be the ICOM IC-41s together with whatever was needed for in car charging.

Flynnie
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:45

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 22:45
That goes against what others and the manual have indicated. The TX6200 manual specifically indicates a battery charging socket for direct connection to charger.

A desktop charger might not be a big deal in your scheme of things, good for you. I already have several.
As stated above, I'd like to to avoid another if that's OK with you.
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Follow Up By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:36

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:36
Can't see the argument. Don't care what you get or why. But I do have a 6200 with all charging accessories and sort of know what bits I need to use to charge it in a vehicle and at home.

Also I believe you have misinterpreted the manual. Near the bottom of page 38
It says not to connect the vehicles 13.8v to the charging socket as damage will result. Refer to GME website. The socket you refer to is for the supplied 240 volt charger and the output of that is rated at 8.7 volt (mine just measured 8.3).

You must do an indirect connection for in car charging. The car power can be connected to the desktop charger base and the 6200 can be placed in that. It is a bit cumbersome when on the move but no problem when stationary.

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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:46

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:46
I think you might have misinterpreted.
It says not to connect the vehicles 13.8v to the charging socket as damage will result.

No one is proposing to do this. What is however being proposed is to connect the GME optional extra part BCV001 cigarette car charger directly to the battery pack. The socket I refer to is also for this adaptor which would also output 8.7volt.

And you are right, using the desktop charger whilst moving would be cumbersome, hence my desire, as stated more than once previously, to avoid using it if at all possible.

Several people have already indicated that the radio can be connected directly to the optional 12V ciggie plug charger so it would appear that you are wrong in what you "sort of know".
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:48

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:48
Direct from GME website.

BCV001 Vehicle Cigarette Lighter Trickle Charger

Vehicle Cigarette Lighter Trickle Charger. 12V DC. Plug directly into TX6200 Battery Pack.
Features

* Suits TX6200
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Follow Up By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:52

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:52
But it converts the voltage. So it is not direct.
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:55

Sunday, Mar 21, 2010 at 23:55
But more direct than what you were trying say was the only way to do it.

"Extras required are the desktop charger base and a 12 volt lead."

desktop charger is NOT required.
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Follow Up By: Member - Flynnie (NSW) - Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:00

Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:00
No a full in car kit could be purchased as well. But does not change the point that the socket referred to is not designed for 13.8 volts.
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:04

Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 00:04
No one ever said it was. Keep digging, you're getting deeper.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 18:20

Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 18:20
Mate, I rang GME support when I got the trickle charger to find out how to use it on the TX6100. There are two jacks on the side of the unit that are of the audio type because the external microphone connector plugs into them. One jack is a slightly smaller diameter than the other. I was told by GME support to plug the trickle charger jack into the smaller socket (same size as the charger connector). The other lead available on the trickle charger is a normal style power pack connector which fits the desktop charger input.
I hope that clears it up for everyone?
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 20:38

Monday, Mar 22, 2010 at 20:38
Thanks for that Mike. I went to a dealer today and confirmed it by actually trying it. It took me quite a while to convince the dealer and they had to ring GME themselves to confirm it was possible.

The TX6100 can be charged directly with a BCV005 ciggie lighter charger. As you say it plugs into the smaller socket in side of the unit.

Thanks everyone.
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Follow Up By: spike46 - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:36

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:36
I have a TX6100 and a BCV005 cigarette lighter charger, I emailed the customer support section in 5 states and asked the same question, 'how do I charge my radio using the cigarette lighter charger instead of the cradle'.

Three of them replied and said to plug the charger into the small socket under the pivoting cover. Two of them said the radio should be turned off while charging.

I am waiting for the battery to go flat so I can actually give it a try
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:00

Wednesday, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:00
To be honest with you all, I think the direct charger sort of sux. It works but there is no indicator anywhere on the unit with says.."charging" etc so you don't know if it is or it isn't. Also, it seems slow. I reckon they could have done a much better job with less effort. Who needs a desktop charger on an outdoors hand held radio unit? My desk is a long way away most of the time.
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Follow Up By: spike46 - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:17

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:17
I let the battery go flat and connected the BCV005 charger and charged the radio for about 15 hours, there is no battery level indicator to check what the state of charge is but you would assume that would be long enough.

I turned the radio on and 4 hours later the battery was flat again. I reckon the cigarette lighter charger is useless if you want to have the radio turned on all day and recharge it at night, it doesn't seem long enough and I was advised not to have the radio turned on during charging
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:21

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:21
I've had it connected for 15 hours or so with the unit left on and the charge indicator was still at 100%. I think that it stops the unit from draining but doesn't charge it from flat very well. As I said....sort of sux.
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Follow Up By: Glenndini - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:25

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 14:25
Interesting. Thanks for that Spike. It doesn't sound like it it's much use to do it that way.
I've also found that Uniden sell a "car kit" ciggie lighter plug in cradle (comes included with some UH078sx packages).

I wonder if that charges any better though.
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Follow Up By: That Troopy Bloke (SA) - Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:23

Thursday, Mar 25, 2010 at 17:23
Here is a pic of the TX6200 connected to the charger. No desktop cradle needed.

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I rarely use this radio, as it is usually handed to a tag-along that doesn't have a radio, so I can't tell you how long it takes to charge from flat.
But I can tell you that it works fine being charged at the same time that the radio is in use. My son used this radio last year when he tagged along on a Border Track trip. Started the trip with a fully charged battery, used the radio all weekend whilst plugged in to the charger, and finished with a full battery after the 2 days.

BTW this charger is a BCV001, and is marked Output: 9V 200mA

Cheers
Glenn
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