croc expert please

Red Lilly - we saw him 2 weeks previously and he staked the campsite for about 2 hours, starting at a distance and moving nearer in until he sat just off the waters edge. Went back for a look 2 weeks later and saw the same fellow

I think I have heard similar growling once I stopped buying expensive cocktails at a bar. Can't be sure, but ....

Jack

He was facing us although he arrived after dark and we spotted him with the torch after he started growling. We half expected that that was the case - when we first saw him 2 weeks ago, we were under no misapprehension that he was the apex predator in the billabong!! Great experience

You may have been working at Cooinda at the time, but do not dare say you told them not to swim in that billabong , you could not possibly know what was going to take place that night, as the whole situation was spare of the moment.

I was there that night and I know exactly what happened.

I gave my interpretation of what happened to the police and the coroner as I had spoken Isabel and her sister that morning, not only that I new the guide, he is a good friend of mine.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT PLEASE.

Sorry , but which attack was this? Not having all the facts myself, but knowing that Cooinda is in Kakadu somewhere, and having a guide, WHY was there people swimming?

Anyone care to elaborate?

isabell von jordan was the second person in Kakadu that was taken by a Croc.

LINK

swimming in any waters up here should not be done unless it is a stipulated swimming hole, keeping in mind they just pulled a 2.5m croc out of wangi last week the most popular swimming hole in litchfield.
any guide that tells tourists it is safe to swim any where else should be put up on MURDER charges they have a duty of care to their clients.
if a croc is growling at you do not go any where near the waters edge it is aggression and the waters are warmer than normal at this time of year due to the llack of a dry season. so they may already be gearing up for mating season where they become very territorial.

Well, what a shame. Thats first degree murder in my book.

That must be the place that they later pulled another 8 crocs from, one for each person there.

Be careful guys before you pass judgement as that is a harsh call if you don't know the facts as 3gobush has stated and please read the link from the top to the BOTTOM as it went through the courts and the matter has been settled fairly.....
I worked at Cooinda and we were at the launching ramp at Yellow Waters as we were throughout the week attending the tour boats, we had spent the last few weeks advising various groups NOT to wade in the water at the ramp as there was some very big crocs there, we also spoke to a "group" that were standing in the water knee deep (as others had done before) and watching the sunset, l was told a few days later that it was one of the groups we had spoken to were involved in the tragedy ......
It could have happened to any one of the groups that were doing it and was simply waiting to happen and since then many changes have been made for the safety of all involved.....
Muntoo and Jezza77 in all fairness and if you don't know the details that was a little harsh, 02murry stated he could clearly hear the croc, he is probably lucky he is still around to write about it .... a croc has attacked a man in a tent up in ntQLD not so long ago...
These things make us learn not bitter..
Cheers guys

sorry if what i said sounded harsh but as a frequent user of the top end waters i see a lot of people taking very large risk whether they know it or not. not only tourists but local fishermen too it is only a matter of time before there is another casualty. as a tour guide the local knowledge should be to stay well clear of the water as a very large croc can camouflage in water not much more than knee deep. i am not bitter but it seems some people do not learn and unfortunately it seems to always come down to a call for culling, even if the areas are well signed as yellow waters and surrounding areas are. i truly hope there are no more casualty's and people can enjoy safely the beauty that Kakadu and sorounds offer.

Im not passing judgement really. Im just going by the facts that were written in the coroners report. I have lived with crocs my whole life, and respect them. I never venture into there territory where the odds are against me. For a local tour guide to allow his patrons to swim is dreadful and in my eyes is as good as murder. It seems any goose can be a tour guide and get away with knowing nothing.

And Jezza, how can anything we type here sound harsh mate, a young girl lost her life because of anothers lack of care. Where was his duty of care?

joe,

where abouts did you work in Cooinda?

:) thanks

Sarah

Maint, on the boats and gen set, buses ect (mech)
Hangin of the back of the boats fixin outboards was bit scary, had a "lookout" for crocs, best bit was takin out the tour boats empty and flogging them for a while, amazing how fast they do go, not very stable.........
Before that i worked north of Broome on boats and at one time i had to work under water at the back of the boat to replace a shear pin on a prop..... THAT was scary, back to the hull at all times ....

hi
if you havent seen him for a while maybe he slept there once too often
cheers

These sausage rolls were at least 25m to 30m from the edge of the billabong - still sausage rolls though!