Oziexplorer; whats all the fuss

been playing with my new VMS 430 for the past week and I have come to this conclusion; Oziexplorer is overrated. The maps are harder to read compared to the VMS inbuilt maps AND the zoom is crap.
Don't get me started on the horrible lack of user friendleness compared to VMS also.

I'm sure I'll spend my whole time using the VMS maps which are fantastic IMHO.
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Reply By: SCUBADOO - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:38

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:38
Let's be fair shall we?

You select a couple of non urban locations in Australia from your VMS unit (I'm in NZ) and post your images (can a VMS do that?).

Now let OziExplorer followers here post their VASTLY MORE comprehensive corresponding images for a fair comparison.
Have you even compared VMS itopo etc. features against OziExplorer?
I have! No contest!

I am not criticising VMS, just your statement.

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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:08

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:08
OziExplorer does not supply maps of any kind.

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Follow Up By: SCUBADOO - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:41

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:41
Well mine did when I purchased it more than 12 years ago.
It still does. Check www.oziexplorer.com
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:20

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:20
They sell other people's maps, they have none of their own and the software does not come with maps of any consequence.
You can use any map with the software though.
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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:25

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:25
Owned most of the GPS's around and now use OziExplorer exclusively. On stand alone computer, laptop, Ipaq and 7" generic GPS with Windows. Have built up a great collection of maps over time and have all areas covered comprehensively. It takes a while to learn the application and good maps cost $$$ but I am sold on it!! It's also easy to share track and waypoint files, even allows transfer of these files to other GPS types. I'm a convert but it took me a while to arrive at this point.
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:41

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:41
Gossy,

You don't work for VMS by any chance do you?
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:50

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:50
ha, No.
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Reply By: patsproule - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:54

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:54
The maps in Ozi are only as good as the ones you purchase and load into it! I use a variety of maps with Ozi, from Rooftop for the High Country, Hema for central Aus, The Geoscience 1:250,000 series and the topographical 1:100,000 and 1:25,000 series. At 1:25,000 the detail is as good as you can possibly get short of using spy satellite imagery!

Get some decent maps for your Ozi unit.

Pat
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:18

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:18
Pat,
What are your 1:25,000 Maps and do they cover all of Australia.
If so where does one get them.

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Follow Up By: MrBitchi (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:25

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:25
There is no full coverage of Oz in 1:25,000. Never has been. 1:25k is only available for major areas, or areas of interest to the military.

1:250,000 is about the best you can do for complete coverage.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 19:50

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 19:50
There is lots of 1:50,000 raster. I have the Kimberley (about 450 sheets) and most of southern SA. Some areas you can buy, but there is some that I have not seen publically available too.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:29

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:29
VMS430 is a sat nav device, OziExplorer is mapping software - it doesn't come with maps, nor an inbuilt gps - you add that yourself. OziExplorer is a tool and is designed to be quite adaptable to suit various industries of use and application. There are many applications that can utilise OziExplorer formats to produce new tools for specific user groups. For example, we have just developed and released an OziExplorer compatible GPS tracking application (EOTrackMePC) to allow Ozi users the opportunity to use their PC as the device to send the tracking data to the EOTrackMe service.
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Follow Up By: SCUBADOO - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:51

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:51
Hi David & Michelle

I purchased it with maps in c.1998 with maps and you still can.

www.oziexplorer.com
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:04

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:04
Scubadoo,

The program is such that maps are an extra cost to the base cost of Oziexplorer. There is a (supposedly free) Lite version that may be bundled with mapsets occasionally.

Andrew
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Follow Up By: SCUBADOO - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:12

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 13:12
I know that and so do thousands of others.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:09

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:09
Scubadoo - as you have been told a couple of times, the only maps that Oziexplorer comes with are their couple of demo maps - nothing really usable. You need to use your own maps, some of which can be purchased from oziexplorer but most are available from Map shops or places like Geoscience Aust and Hema.

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Follow Up By: Member No 1- Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:12

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:12
As david says
Ozi is a software program

if maps came with it then the program is only as good as the Maps that Ozzie had to source from an outside supplier...they do make their own maps

1;25000 are the best maps for detail but as for quality they are only as good as the digital size
just like a digital picture...generally the bigger the size the better the quality
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:20

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 14:20
I too have been converted to Oziexplorer and constantly use the program.
And now that I have a Hema it is great for planning trips and simply loading them into it.


I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

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Reply By: paulnsw - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:02

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 15:02
VMS is for school kiddies to find their way home from school and unsuitable for out of city use.
VMS shows 5% of the information topographic maps show. Cannot even start to compare VMS to Oziexplorer with topographic maps.
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:26

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:26
I reckon Gossy has shares in Ozi not VMS..........
Go back and read the posts. Not a bad advert for Ozi????
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Reply By: Member - Fred B (NT) - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:26

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:26
Now now girls, just behave please..... lol...

Gossy,
suggest you get to know Oziexplorer and how to use it... It can be a little difficult to learn to use... (quiet daunting for some) but when you do.... it has so many tools and uses its incredible. You will then change your opinion about it. As stated above, Oziexplorer (and any other good mapping program) is 1) only as good as its user. 2) only as good as the maps used "with" the program.

I hope you are willing to take the time to get know the program better.
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Follow Up By: Gossy - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:49

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 17:49
will definately keep playing with it.
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Follow Up By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 19:37

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 19:37
will back that .....it is NOT user freindly but as they say it aint a gps, you have to add that, just have to be a computer wiz to work it and load and access the maps, yep it is WAY over rated, hence you get the extreams of reactions from this site ........
Very much the Volvo of GPS, some love it some hate it, good shopping trolly for mums..... bit like a Landrover ..... why people still buy and drive them i dont know but some people do it..hahahahhahaha
If my fishing got this many bites i would be happy ..
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:08

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:08
Hi

It’s as user friendly as any other software package you are not familiar with. Far simpler than some, I can assure you. Also it’s not overrated - any comments proclaiming how useful the product is can be well and truly justified. Just because any one person finds it unsuitable or difficult to learn (for one reason or another) doesn’t lessen its value to those who find it invaluable. Dont get the shopping trolly bit? OziExplorer only costs ~$130 and most users utilise it for out of town areas at a guess.

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Follow Up By: Joe Grace Doomadgee - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:56

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 20:56
ummmm, the Volvo is the "shopping trolly" ...... but as i said, some also swear by Apple Mac...... change of bait ....
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 21:05

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 21:05
Realise the Volvo is the "shopping troll(e)y" but didn’t get your analogy with OziExplorer - you said "Very much the Volvo of GPS" (even though Ozi isnt a GPS!)
Think your bait may have fell off when casting :)
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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 21:27

Thursday, Aug 12, 2010 at 21:27
On our recent trip I used a VMS 500 in the vehicle and Oziexplorer for planning purposes. Information, such as track data, routes, and waypoints, was uploaded and downloaded via SD card very simply and I found that both complimented each other.

Cheers, The Landy
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Reply By: Member - Michael & Sheila G (I - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:54
We have just come back from a five week trip covering over 8500 klms covering areas from home (The Sunshine Coast) to the Daintree Track, Endeavour Falls, Lakefield National Park through to Pompuraww to Kowanyama ,Karumba, Gregory Downs, lawn Hill back through to Mt.Isa ,Longreach and The Central Highlands using the VMS430 and apart from a glitch with USB plug breaking contact with the unit on the corrugations ( fixed with zip ties) we have nothing but praise for its navigation abilities. Upon our return we e-mailed VMS with our concern re the USB and they are more than happy to replace the power lead for us and are waiting for our feedback as to whether we have any more problems,can't really ask for more than that>
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael & Sheila G (I - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 13:14

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 13:14
Just a passing comment for Joe Grace - what's wrong with Land Rovers? the Defender is as good as any other 4WD out there. I still haven't found any 4WD that does not suffer from some kind of fault or problem of some kind, and no we don't own a Land Rover we own a Holden Rodeo (now the knockers will come out) and it has taken us wherever we have wanted to go even through The Simpson Desert.
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 18:31

Friday, Aug 13, 2010 at 18:31
The Defender...A very capable vehicle......and oddly enough the people that often have a problem with them are the ones who have never owned one...go figure?

And with that comment I'm sure I've opened myself up to a ribbing of some kind...so with that in mind I'm heading off home, in the OneTen

Beer O'Clock....Cheers, The Landy (LR Tragic!)
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