CSR - Capricorn Road House Fuel Dump to cease
Submitted: Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:06
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Member - John
G'day, just rang the Capricorn Road house refuel at
Well 23 Fuel Dump, Kate the manager stated they will not be providing the service next year due to the amount of theft from the dump.
Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:32
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:32
Well aint that just great news.
We even have cretins amongst the four wheel drive community ...!
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:40
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:40
Seems it is the local
population doing the thieving..................
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 21:48
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 21:48
Unfortunately there are plenty of cretins in the 4WD community, you only have to look in the
Simpson Desert, the CSR or the High Country to confirm that.
Sad, but true!
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Follow Up By: Member Brian (Gold Coast) - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:10
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:10
Shaker.... unfortunately you don't even have to go that far to find 'em......
Cheers
Brian
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Follow Up By: anythingbutlateforlu - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:30
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 09:30
Diesel is available at Cotton
Creek (80km off the Canning), priced at $3 per litre when you phone before the trip and $4 per litre when you show up. Poor store as
well. If you can make it thru to
Kunawarritji, better prices and an excellent store. Also has a cardphone and showers (cold but improvements happening).
Cheers!
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Reply By: Brian Purdue - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:43
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 17:43
In 300 BC was said to walk the mid-day sun with a lantern looking for a tall honest man.
Nothing has changed. There is always someone ready to inconvenience others to gain advantage of favours.
Sad as it may be, as Ned Kelly said, "Such is life."
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Reply By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:15
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:15
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the CSR is not a proposition without the fuel dump, for average vehicles with a long range tank and half a dozen jerry cans or so on the roof.
With permits and everything else, seems clear to me that the folks out there, from
Wiluna to
Halls Creek and beyond, don't want our business! If they did they would find a way to secure the fuel.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:27
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:27
G'day, diesel is available at Cotton
Creek and Diesel and Avgas at
Well 33.
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (Adelaide) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:32
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:32
thanks John. What about the distances though, are they still do-able for the average 4b. Cheers
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Follow Up By: dieseltojo - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:54
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 18:54
jdwynn,
Fraid your wrong friend , I have a long rang
tank in the Tojo and had no probs getting to
well 33.The petrol vehicles was another story.they use 25 % more fuel.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 19:24
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 19:24
We used the dump this year Jdwynn , but didn't need to as we had enough petrol to get to
Well 33 from
Wiluna , as did the petrol 80 series with us.
But it is sad to hear this as its is part of the experience of driving the Canning and after all the petrol was cheaper than at
well 33.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 20:07
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 20:07
I think it will be necessary to take a trailer or camper trailer to carry enough jerry cans. So more trailers will be travelling the Canning i guess!! Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 21:58
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 21:58
Yes, fuel is available at Cotton
Creek $4.00 a litre and and
Kunawarritji (
Well 32) at $3.20 per litre - both prices as at about three weeks ago. Glad I've sated my desires to do the Canning twice. Don't forget to add the inevitable cost of shockers for those forced to carry the extra fuel in/on the vehicle as
well for many of those travellers.
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Follow Up By: Member - Longtooth (SA) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 22:00
Thursday, Sep 16, 2010 at 22:00
Sorry, read
Well 33 in my post above.
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Reply By: Member - Bucky - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:47
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:47
John
That is a shame, we probably didn't need the extra fuel we had dropped at the drop but it is comforting to know that we could top up. When we did the CSR last year, our fuel was untouched, that it was a relief.
I raised the thieft problem a couple of years back, on this
forum, and got hammered. Seems I was right after all.
Dam shame that a few mongrels can stuff things up for the rest of the 4x4 community.
Hope those mongrels rott in a hot place.
Cheers
Bucky
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Reply By: xcat - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:29
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:29
we did the canning back in 1992 and had fuel dropped off buy the good people at Capricorn rh , as we were spending 4 weeks out there we had 10 drums dropped off, even back then over the 4 week period two drums went missing, we felt back then it was better to place individuals names on drums rather than a group name to lessen the risk of " they have enough we will pinch their fuel "
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Reply By: ob - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:40
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:40
I wonder what the chances are for getting a license to set up a roadhouse at
well 33??? Might get a bit lonely for 6 months of the year.
Yes I know I am probably a bit cynical but.... who will benefit the most out of no fuel dump?
ob
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Follow Up By: Member - BUNDY BOY (WA) - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 16:20
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 16:20
ob............let me know ....ill go sit there all year round .......just my style ....being alone ....lol
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Reply By: equinox - Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:48
Friday, Sep 17, 2010 at 18:48
I think that it wouldn't worry most people that want to do the Canning. A minor inconvenience perhaps at worst.
If someones cancels their trip up the Canning because of this then I would have to ask them are they really serious about it.
If it does divide the "want to be" Canning travelers between those that will do it and those that won't I would say is this such a bad thing as those that wont do it are more likely to be the traveler that perhaps is not prepared enough. If those that are less prepared do not travel the Canning anymore then that surely is not a bad thing as it will create less track damage etc. etc. that a lot of people who frequent this site often complain about. (not me I might add)
Toughen up princesses!!!
Cheers
Alan
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Follow Up By: Member - Serendipity(WA) - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:27
Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:27
I agree with equinox x 10.
I like to go out to remote
places to see this country as it is. I think it is spoilt when easy access or graded roads are put in. Or even like the bitumen road put past
Wedge Island on the west coast north of
Lancelin.
When access is made too easy then too many 'wannabes' show up and I would say a percentage of them are to blame for messy campsites, loose
toilet paper, and churned up tracks - just some of my bugbears when I go out
camping. I always like to leave a
campsite with little evidence I was ever there - including taking all my rubbish with me - no burying anything for me.
David
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Reply By: Flynnie - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 22:42
Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 22:42
Can not say I am surprised at the ending of the dump. It was pretty evident this year that a lot of theft was going on and that inevitably the fuel dump would close in the not too distant future.
It is sad that this has happened. It may symbolize the passing of an era. An era when people respected travellers and did nothing to harm them.
Flynnie
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Reply By: ross - Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 23:19
Saturday, Sep 18, 2010 at 23:19
Im surprised it lasted that long.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:37
Thursday, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:37
John,
That is good and bad news.
Regulars to this
forum will know that I have driven the CSR a fair bit, 6 times over the past 6 years and I have noticed the increase in traffic.
I have, after speaking to some of the drivers, found that they are very under prepared to do such a trip. Some that try to do a bit of research either don't believe the amount of fuel that is required or only carry the minimum amount. Trying to calculate the amount of fuel that is required is one of the biggest challenge that drivers have.
There are too many variables, soft sand, towing a trailer, incorrect tyre pressure, using the wrong gear to drive over the dunes, being geographically embarrassed (getting lost and have to back track) and not allowing enough time to do the trip.
I don't think that fuel is taken for the sake of taking it, but when you are caught short and there is fuel in a drum and no one about the temptation is too great.
This does not help the people that have planned there trip, paid for the fuel to be delivered only to find it missing.
I bet next year, when I drive the CRS again, that there will be vehicles on the side of the track out of fuel and waiting for someone to help them out. Maybe the year after, less vehicles on the track, the way it was a few years ago.
Wayne
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