Bread Making

Hi all .
Cooking dampers in the campoven for years ,I would like to make some white bread in the camp oven or just the oven in the van. can some one give me a plain old white bread mix ,or is it better to buy the pre mix packets..I have also enclosed a picture of my dampers.

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:19

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:19
I have always used a premix, as there is less hassle.

The brand and type I use is Lauke Crusty White and it is available in a 600 gram packet, including a sachet of yeast. The correct amount of bread improver is already mixed in the flour so all you do is add the yeast and the correct volume of water, depending on whether you are hand kneading or mixing the dough in a bread machine. It tells you on the packet how much to use.

Not all places have the 600 gram packets but usually have a larger box which requires messy measuring of the correct amount of flour and yeast.
Try Woollies for the smaller packets which are a great size for the camp oven.

As for the bread?
Let me just say that I haven't bothered with damper since backing my first loaf of camp oven bread and that was quite a while ago.
The crust is really crunchy and crisp when fresh and a tip I will offer is to save a couple of slices for breakfast the next morning. The crusty crust will return when toasted and is wonderful with eggs or your favourite topping.


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Follow Up By: John and Lynne - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:35

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 07:35
I also like the Lauke 600g premixes for travelling. They are much better than any other premix I have tried! Hard to have any left over though! Everyone loves it.
It is easy enough to make your own bread from scratch rather than use a premix but you have to have space and organisation for bulk flour etc which can be difficult and messy in a a van. Also when travelling you can't always buy good bread flour.
I have only used a camp oven which is very good for bread - gives a lovely solid heat once you get the knack. I doubt that a caravan oven would work as well (many domestic ovens don't) and it would chew up a lot of gas if you tried to make bread often.
We are planning on experimenting with various flat breads in the cast iron frying pan before our next trip as an alternative when we can't use a campfire. We would like to hear of any success stories and recipes with these. Lynne
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Follow Up By: CLC50 (QLD ) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:11

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:11
Well thank you both for your comments I will try both of these products & flow your advise.
Thank you once again@ 73 I need all the help I can get
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Follow Up By: i'machocoholic - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:55

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:55
I too like the Laucke mixes and have used them for years. I normally buy the 10kg bag and store it in a plastic bucket with a lid. I can't comment on how much the 600gm makes but my recipe for one loaf is simple: 3 cups flour mix (roughly measured), 1 cup water, 1.5 teaspoons yeast. For fruit bread just add around 3/4 cup of fruit medley. It's delicious!
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Follow Up By: Tim - Stratford (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:59

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:59
Lynne,

Our flat bread recipe might be of use:

250gm Plain Flour
1/2 Teaspoon salt
1 Tablespoon vegetable oil
1/2 cup luke warm water.

Sift flour into a large mixing bowl. In a small bowl disolve salt in warm water add oil and mix.
Slowly add liquid into flour mixing to form a dough.
Rest under teatowel for 10-15mins
Heat a heavy based frypan to very hot.
Divide dough into eight portions and roll thin on a dusted surface.
Cook 30-45 seconds per side without adding any oil.

Serve warm with curry or dipping sauces.



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Follow Up By: John and Lynne - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:30

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:30
Thanks Tim. That sounds very simple. Just what I was looking for. How well does it keep or freeze if you have leftovers?
We are determined to never buy another tired and tasteless loaf of supermarket bread while travelling! This thread is getting us inspired.
I am now also researching how to cook yeast bread in the primitive pre-oven days way, 'Bakestone Bread' cooked on a heavy cast iron plate eg BBQ plate. Takes about 20 minutes a side. Sounds simple! Lynne
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Follow Up By: Tim - Stratford (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 16:33

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 16:33
Lynne,

We have an 11yo and 14yo - No such thing as left-overs! However when we did keep one to try re-heating it turned into a 'cracker' and was very good with dip.

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Follow Up By: Who was that again? (Vic) - Friday, Sep 24, 2010 at 23:50

Friday, Sep 24, 2010 at 23:50
Bill, about how much water do you use per 600g pack when hand mixing? For machine mixing it is a much wetter mix of course.
John
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 07:24

Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 07:24
Vic,

375ml of water for 600g Lauke premix when hand mixing. I usually find I need to dribble a smidge extra in to moisten the last remaining bit of dry flour mix.


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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:16

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 08:16
Hi CLC
I was a baker in a previous life and I now use Laucke premixes.
At home the Kenwood knocks out two large loaves at a time as we need it ... crusty white or multi grain and the product is great. Laucke use strong hi gluten flour which is difficult to obtain in the supermarket.
When camping give the dough a good knock about for at least ten minutes and let the dough prove up in the warm car with the windows wound up. After that either tin it or mould it up to a cottage loaf and bake in a good hot camp oven with one of those perforated trivets from BCF on the bottom.
Incidently I have started using Heat Beads. By placing the bottom heat in a discarded frypan and top heat on the lid. Very easy to adjust the heat.
I bought a Heat Bead lighter on the web but I have yet to try it out. It will be much easier than lighting them in jam tins.
Going by the damper that you knocked out your 99% there.
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Follow Up By: i'machocoholic - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:49

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:49
Thanks for the tips Stan! I was interested in reading your comment about using heat beads in a frypan - I'll try that the next time we're out camping. Just one more question - do you "count" the heat beads on the top and bottom or just know roughly how many use through experience?

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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:24

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:24
Ten on the top and seven on the bottom gets me a loaf of bread followed by date scones. Bake out of the wind.
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:38

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 10:38
HMMMMMMMM....this is a GOOD thread......yum.......going to try some of this....nothing like the smell and taste of fresh bread!

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Reply By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:32

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:32
Yep, as above, the Lauke premix. It's a winner. You can get it in 4-packs of 600g, or 10kg bags (cheaper) where you must weigh the individual batch. And the packs come with lots of good info on how to make bread. I prefer the wholegrain mix.
Ordinary flour and yeast gives a pretty heavy bread and it doesn't seem to keep as well either.
After the usual proofing, I bake it in the camp oven till it's fully risen, then throw hot coals on the top of the oven to brown the top of the bread. If you put the coals on top too soon, before the bread has fully risen, then the heat may crust the bread too early, stopping a full rise.
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Follow Up By: Member - T N (Qld) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:25

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:25
Thanks Gerry,
The handy tip I have been looking for, wondered why the bread mix did'nt
rise.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 20:08

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 20:08
If you allow the dough to prove in a warm place as suggested above, you will have a full rise.

I too use a cast iron frypan with eight heatbeads in it and sit the camp oven on top. 12-14 beads on the lid of my 12" Hillbilly gives enough top heat to brown the crust to a crusty finish.


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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:33

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:33
For your scones go to Woolies (i have shares in Woolies) and get Country Womens Association premix for scones. Add sultanas (soak in tepid water for five minutes then shake dry in a tea towel) add to premix, try dates with crushed wallnuts or even blueberries.
Pat the dough out in a shallow pan and mark out scone sizes with an eggslice all the way through wash with milk not to much just damp and sprinkle with coarse sugar. 15 minutes to bake.
The smell will attract campground animals from miles around so be on the lookout.
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 08:24

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 08:24
I'll second that.The cwa premix is great for camping. Different to most home made scones- the mixture requires a fair bit of kneading- this is great for the kids to get involved with and they don't turn out like rocks.doc.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:10

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 15:10
I've recently started home baking bread in the oven when time allows. I had a good recipe for a basic white loaf and it wasn't half bad just using the local supermarket plain flour. But then I thought I'd give the Laucke premix a try after seeing a 10kg bag in Woolies, besides it worked out about the same price per kilo as the plain flour I was buying. And I must say it certainly makes nicer bread, stays fresher for longer too. Definitely much fresher for longer than damper!
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Follow Up By: CLC50 (QLD ) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 16:06

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 16:06
Thanks once again to all comments,this thread has had.
425 views to date,it has brought a lot of interest to our camping life.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 17:01

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 17:01
Hi CLC

I use Allied Crusty Bread and Roll mix which comes in 12.5 kg bags from grocery stores such as IGA stores, for making bread with a bread maker or by hand. Just add yeast and water.

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Reply By: bgreeni - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 18:13

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 18:13
I buy the premixes from "All about bread" in Wanneroo road. (No connection, just happy customer) They have a great range of various types of bread, and you can buy packs of 6 X 500gm of different types. Find it much better than the supermarket stuff.
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:18

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:18
Hi all

My simple method is to use a 450 Watt bread maker in the Crusier as we are going along. Pull up and the bread is made as well as a nice aroma. I do prefer to use the camp oven on the open fire, but some days this is not possible.
Yes I do agree with the Laucke Bread mix. I select the French setting on the bread machine as this gives a finer texture. I also add a cup of seed mixture which include Seasame, Caraway, Pumpkin and Sunflower seeds.
Enjoy.
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:42

Thursday, Sep 23, 2010 at 22:42
size and make?
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Follow Up By: li'l rusty - Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 06:42

Saturday, Sep 25, 2010 at 06:42
What size inverter do you use to run the 450 watt bread maker in your cruiser?
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