Dometic fridge RM 2553 problem

Submitted: Sunday, Sep 26, 2010 at 22:08
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Hi all
I don't think I have posted on here yet but have read a lot of interesting threads...so G'Day to you all from the Top End (Kakadu)
My problem..... 2008 Jayco van with Dometic RM 2553 - 3 way fridge. Always running even when not using (12 volt when travelling) 240v when stationary.
Stopped working on 240v and 12 volt the other day. Van is level and fridge was working for about 5 day since last movement. Just stopped working while sitting there doing nothing. Switched to gas and all good. Just won't work on power. Checked van fuses...OK. Checked power going to back of fridge ...OK.
Is there a fridge fuse somewhere other than the van fuses?
Can't be thermostat as it works fine on gas.
What's next?
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Reply By: Best Off Road - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:35

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:35
I think it would have two separate fuses for 12 and 240,and it would be strange for them to both go at once, but I'm just guessing.

Sounds more like the electric heating element is shot.

Jim.



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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:51

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:51
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Since it has separate elements for 240 & 12v it should not be the elements.
It works ok on gas, so its not the system
Fuses, 2 blown? very UNLIKELY
Supply from 2 sources both failed ? very unlikely
selector Switch mechanism faulty ?possible ,try switching it back & forth a few times, may help it clear

Thermostat problem? very likely, especially if has been heavily used on 12v.
Same contacts used for both 12v & 240v operation !12v operation gives the contacts a hard time

To confirm, needs to be tested by a person who knows how to use a multi meter.

Peter
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Follow Up By: Faulic_McVitte - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 16:25

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 16:25
"Thermostat problem? very likely, especially if has been heavily used on 12v." RM2553 on 12v does not function on the thermostat. 12v is direct connection to 12v element.

240V elements are crap. On 12v your wiring is probably to light.
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Reply By: Magillas - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:41

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:41
All good input.
I am steering towards a faulty switch but I'm a little hesitant because it was running for up to 10 days with no caravan movement on 240. and then to stop working? So are you saying there is a heating element for 12 and 240 volt or seperate elements for each?
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:49

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:49
I can't speak for certain on Dometic, but Chescold 3 way fridges have only one element that draws 175 watts on either 12 or 240. I'd be surprised if Dometic found a need to install two elements where one would do the job. But I'm only guessing.

Jim.

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 18:13

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 18:13
The 12 and 240 V elements are two separate devices. The common device seems to be to be the thermostat - as reported by oldtrack.

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Follow Up By: Colcam42 - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 20:08

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 20:08
Jim, there is no thermostat on the SEPARATE 12v element, only on gas and electric does the thermostat operate.

Our Dometic is fussy about levels, seems to work best when the front of the van is a little lower. Perhaps a quirk of installation but generally, must be level.

Check the element, on 240v it will be hot to touch. Easy to see through the bottom vent, (assuming normal installation). Gas heat can be similarly felt at the flue exit in the top vent. If these indications are good, feel the topmost pipe of the condenser, should be getting hot too. If not, you need a fridge mech.

All the best,

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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:34

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 22:34
Hi All
Just to confuse everyone a little more here are some FACTs on Dometic 3ways

Some of the larger models do only have one 240v element which is ran by a crude inbuilt inverter from 12v supply

MOST have separate12v & 240v elements

Very old models did not have the thermostat operate when on 12v
For the last 15 to 20 years many models have had thermostatic control on 12v
Some of the later larger ones now have a relay on the 12v element feed to take the load of the thermostat contacts

Model & serial numbers are important in finding just what you do have

I still believe that the thermostat is the OP's problem

I do agree that the later model s 240v element are not lasting & would advise anyone who finds this happening to not be put off by dometic blaming voltage surges & suggesting surge protectors.
These will not solve the problem
The elements are running hotter than they should because they have not been designed for our standard voltage

Peter

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Reply By: oldtrack123 - Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:48

Wednesday, Sep 29, 2010 at 12:48
Hi Magillas
If you have access to a mutimeter & the back of the fridge
To do this turn all switchs to "off"
Remove 240v plug from power point
Measure resistance with multi set to ohms by putting probes directly across the element terminals
Should read about 70ohms for 240v heater & 0 . 83ohms for 12v heater
I am reasonably sure your model does have thermo control on 12v The manual should verify this
If the elements check OK ,the thermostat is very likely to be the problemas it is the only common control

There are no fuses in the fridge for 240v or 12v

Peter
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Follow Up By: Magillas - Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 20:13

Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 20:13
Excellent advice and much appreciated.
I do have a multimeter. Used it to check if the power was getting to the fridge.
Question; the thermostat doesn't control the fridge on gas only on power?
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 20:42

Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 20:42
Hi Magillas

The much perpetuated story that dometic 3ways do not have thermostatic control on 12v is WRONG
A BIT LIKE AN Old WIVES TALE WHICH KEEPS GETTING REPEATED
Many models do ,some do not.
I cannot be sure with your model but the manual should indicate if it does
Also the circuit drawing on the back should also indicate
Another way is if the manual tells you to turn the thermostat knob from "off" to a number
If the elements test ok the only other common feature to both is the selector switch, but it is very unlikely to be the problem ,as it is a multi pole switch & uses different contacts to feed the 240 & 12v

The thermostat IS a gas /electric one.
It has electrical contacts which could be the problem as the one set is used to control both the 240v & the 12v elements ,& which will not affect the gas operation

Peter
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 21:03

Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 at 21:03
Hi Magillas

A bit of quick research seems to indicate your model HAS THERMO CONTROL ON 12V , but not directly. it controls a relay to take the load of the thermo contacts as I posted above
I still believe the thermo is the most likely problem , the other possibility is wiring ,especially to & from the thermostat, from the selector switch
Peter
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