Prado 2010 KDJ150R GXL Diesel Auto

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G'day. I'm looking to buy a new prado GXL diesel.. Took it for a test drive & goes pretty nice , currently have a awd 3.5l kluger awd.. Would appreciate feedback from anyone with the new Prado .. It will be used to take kids to school most of the time & other times will be used to tow out outback Jayco hawk.. Will hopefully do the oodnadatta track towing the camper...

Cheers,
Don
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 19:52

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 19:52
Hi SS

Well I guess I was never going to go for a car with just 42 degrees as a tip over angle - but they are a popular well liked car , with better 4wd capability than there Pathfinder equivalents.

In the 2 I have driven there was engine vibration and hunting off idle , this fits with the fact that an upgrade to engine rasing power to 141kw I think next year is on the way , so I would bargain for a good price if you were going now.

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Follow Up By: Larry01 - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 19:59

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 19:59
Still beating that drum hey
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:22

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:22
guess you decided to go for 42 litres to 100kms instead!!

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Follow Up By: ctaplin - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:37

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 22:37
This post has been read by the moderation team and has been moderated due to a breach of The Personal Attacks Rule .

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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 23:15

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 23:15
Not too sure why you are beating up Robin, he has simply posted some facts and while you may not like them, what is to disagree with about these facts? We all have our favorite vehicles and while Robin certainly has penchant for the GU 4.8, along with a dislike of the Prado, there are many other vehicles out there that I too have an unwarranted dislike for. We can't all have 200's :)

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 07:49

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 07:49
Now Guys as long as someone asks a question - they are entitled to hear both sides of any story, and I am never relucant to receive any factual information that helps me make better choices.



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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 08:12

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 08:12
Robin, as a matter of interest have you ever experienced 42 degrees sideways? It is a lot. ( I know other 4wd's are higher) but I'd love to see a Patrol for example with a roof rackand people in it get to 40 degrees.
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Follow Up By: Paul G K (vic) - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 08:41

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 08:41
Robin

Can you tell us the tip angle of your patrol

Regards Paul
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:53

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:53
Hi Boobook

Check out thread 68264 , and it is a lot.

Hi Paul

48 degrees.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:32

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:32
Sorry Robin I was referring to what any vehicle would be in a real world. Not the manufacturers figures which would don'tt include a load or even people. I would guess 40 degrees would be as good as you could get in any vehicle like that. Patrol, Landcruiser, etc.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:26

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:26
For normal loads its not all that different Boobook , as the C of G of most cars is above the axles height as expressed by the SSF figure.
Although moving a spare wheel from under a car to on the back door is stretching it.

If weight goes on the roof, then this is more of a problem though because its distance above the C of G is about 3 times higher than the drivers weight is above the C of G.

In real terms though , its not about a static figure , its about the impulse as the weight shifts , for example slipping into a rut or a higher speed turn.

An interesting example of this can be explored by googling for "Lexus GX460 recall" which does not affect Australia.

In this case a deadly problem was caused simply by using the same software when the driving position was changed to driver on the L.H.S of car e.g.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2010-04-19-toyota-lexus_N.htm


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Reply By: Larry01 - Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 20:00

Monday, Sep 27, 2010 at 20:00
Checkout Pradopoint.com plenty of happy customers
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:29

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:29
We did the CSR last year along with a friend from SA who was driving a diesel Prado, towing an Australian Offroad Campers Odyssey camper trailer which handled the trip with ease, on that basis, the Oodnadatta Track should be a "walk in the park".
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Reply By: PradoMad - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:40

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 09:40
Gentlemen;
can we just keep this site nice and clean and stop bitching around. if he wants to rave about his Patrol, so be it.
I am a huge Prado fan and just smile at "those" comments.
What do you see out there in the bush most..??? Prado's.

This site is all about exchanging ideas, tips and advise. I gathered some great knowledge from some of you and helpful tips on a lot of things.

Happy 4WD
JS
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Reply By: ModSquad - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:09

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:09
Don has asked for advice regarding a vehicle to suit his specific needs and desires. We all need to stick to the thread, and help him out - after all, that's why he posted.

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Follow Up By: Moose - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:14

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 13:14
What "specific needs and desires" - taking kids to school and towing a van?? Prado should manage that OK :-)

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Reply By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:13

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:13
Don,

As long as you are planning to leave the third row of seats in you're fine.

If, however, you plan to fitout the back for travel, be aware it is a major job to remove and refit the third row.

Cheers,

Jim.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:24

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:24
Don't they just clip out?
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Follow Up By: Best Off Road - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 14:06

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 14:06
No, it a lengthy and fiddly job and the car ends up looking like this

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A huge step backwards from the 120.

Jim.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:53

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:53
Wow!
Now I see where you are coming from, I am in the process of setting up a 120 series.
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Reply By: Member - Andrew L (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 14:47

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 14:47
As a long range tourer I think a low k 2009, 120 series Prado would be a better choice than a 150 series. 30L more fuel capacity, easily removed rear seats, better vision, greater availability of aftermarket goodies. The 120 doesn't suffer from the 1500rpm vibration and flat spot issues that are reported in the 150.

Leachy
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:44

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:44
I agree, the new 150 is a bit of a let down after the 120 series as far as a long distance tourer goes.

Mind you my first vehicle was a hilux with a 2 litre petrol motor and we went everywhere in it and thought it was the best going.

Maybe we've been spoiled lately because it was nowhere near as good as the 150 in reality.

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Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:46

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:46
They must be good the mines have heaps of them and fewer Nissans.

Even more Prados than Cruisers in some places.

Saw plenty towing campers on our trip.
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Reply By: CraigFox - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:47

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 15:47
Don

I don't want to knock anyone's thoughts on what car is better etc., but have you considered the 2010 NT Pajero Platinum? I bought a Pajero Activ DiD after ALOT of researching, and for OUR requirements, it fits the bill. We have 3 kids, tow a Jayco Swan Outback and love the car.
I am sure people will tell you its all about articulation/suspension travel, and its not a real 4wd because it has IRS/IFS, etc etc.
But check out power comparisons, towing capacities, and standard features (bang for buck)

As I said, these are my thoughts. In Robin's case, the Patrol is a great buy, in other peoples case, you can't go past a 100 series. It's "horses for courses"!!

Craig
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Reply By: ss--ss - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:08

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:08
Thanks a lot for all the replies.
Did the deal today & in a couple of weeks will take delivery of a prado 150 gxl diesel. Had a good experience with our kluger on a recent 11000klm trip & wanted to stay toyota. The prado will do everything we need & probably more. Having said that on our recent trip I spoke to pajero & Nissan owners , everyone seemed pretty happy with what they had. Vehicles seemed to have come a long way in the past few years.
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Reply By: achjimmy - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:10

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:10
Hi Don

Just changed from a Kluger myself and went through some of what you did. Ended up buying a platuimn Pajero. I have had many toyotas and didn't want to change but the new Prado didn't do it for me. The pajero does not share the same build quality of Toyota IMO but a few things that made a difference for me as i bought the diesel

the DID diesel out performed the Prado noticeably in all areas except it was noisier but not unbearably.
the pajero transmission was heaps smoother. drivers seat has height adjustment front and back the prado only adjust rear height. rear seats come out to give you 90 litre storage area, the pajero felt larger inside.

I did like the larger tank on the prado

The pajero was minuimn $6-8k cheaper and included a lot of wanky things you may not value,plus preium sound with sub, sat Nav,with large screen reversing camera (prado screen is to small IMO)

ARB longranger tank for a Pajero will set me back $1800 and give me 150 litres

The dealer i bought from is both Mits and toyota. The dealer manager comented that Pajero sales have gone through the roof since the Prado 150 series has been released!

good luck hope you find a car

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Follow Up By: achjimmy - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:13

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 16:13
Ha ha you got in just infront. Good luck with the new Prado. Yeah Toyota sure do create loyalty with the quality of there product.

Happy 4wding
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Follow Up By: Axle - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 19:30

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 19:30
G/Day Achjimmy, The Paj Diesel does suffer from that major fault of carbon build up in the manifolds!, only reason i'm saying this. it was only yesterday, that i was talking to a rep that has had two off them, and both have suffered the same drama, between 100 & 140,000k, a shame but a fact!.


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: achjimmy - Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 23:12

Tuesday, Sep 28, 2010 at 23:12
I thought that problem was resolved for the NT's diesel along with droping the DPF? I guess as long as i still own it and its not 10 years from now i will be covered by MMA warranty?

cheers
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Follow Up By: Larry01 - Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 05:23

Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 05:23
QLD Police use Pajero for mobile speed cameras and have instruction to rev the engine several times a day to avoid the carbon build up. If they don't it goes into limp mode. Mind you they sit there all day idiling not real good for any motor.
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Reply By: Larry01 - Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 05:27

Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 05:27
Hi SS picked up my new Prado 150 GXL Diesel yesterday really happy. ARB steel colour coded bar ARB Dual Battery ARB tow bar, SAfari Snorkel, IPF Extreme sport spotties and inbuilt brake controller for the van
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Follow Up By: ss--ss - Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 09:32

Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 09:32
Congratulations , Wow you've got some nice accessories fitted !
Hopefully mine is ready to be picked up next week. Just out of curiosity the dual battery they put in what size is it in AH or length ? , I have a 100ah 305mm long battery I'm hoping to install but think it maybe too big..

cheers Don
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Follow Up By: Larry01 - Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 20:03

Friday, Oct 01, 2010 at 20:03
Hi SS i have only got a 50AH fitted not much room to fit much bigger. I can measure it for you if you would like. Just let me know

Regards

Chris
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