Engle's (and other portable fridges) left running to "make it last longer" ..
Submitted: Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:49
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Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ
Engle reccomend to use the fridge on 240v whilst not in "portable" use to "maintain" it ............
Is there ANY actual reason for doing this, i know almost everyone does it but i just can not see why it would not shorten the life of the commpressor, after all it has moving parts that must wear when in use and simply can not wear if switched off....
The days of having 3-4-5 fridges and a couple of freezers are over and we need to be more energy wise in what we do and i would like
mine to last as long at it can ...
Any thoughts or even better a "factual" reason why i should keep it plugged in ...
Reply By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:02
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:02
More than likely for the same reason that you need to run your car airconditioner from time to time over winter. If you don't the compressor seals dry out & it keeps the compresser lubed too.
Would not think you have to run it 24/7 but I guess by suggesting you keep it out & running you won't store it away for 6 months without giving it a run at all.
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Follow Up By: trainslux - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:17
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:17
Your car ac system has o ring joins, and seals in the compressor.
So periodic running, particularly over winter, will ensure the seals stay lubricated etc.
With sealed fridge circuits like engle, waeco etc, there is no need.
Keep it stored in a dry dust free environment, with lid open so no mould/ smells begin, and run it every now and then.
All you need to do.
Trains
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:58
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:58
You are spot on "trains"..
They are fully sealed and also in a complete metal casing so there is no seals at all unlike a car that does need to be run to last.
The only thing i can think of at the moment is the refridge oil in the system needs to be kept distributed within the internals of the system, other than that it may
well be a "ploy" to get em to wear out quicker .........
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 19:34
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 19:34
Yes I sort of agree.
I leave
mine in the shed for months at a time.
Why run the fridge when you don't need to. We have sufficient capacity in our house fridge and do not need an extra one most of the time.
I occasionally utilise it over Christmas periods when an extra fridge is practical but otherwise leave it in the shed until the next
camping trip.
Bill.
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Reply By: get outmore - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:04
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:04
plenty of us dont as
well, mines just a baby at 5yo but hopefully will keep going
my suggestion if you dont want to waste power is to keep it running by taking it out
bush camping very often :-)
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:29
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:29
Yep. Any excuse to go bush more often is fine by me!
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:51
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:51
hahaha like that one, now if you can add that it needs to be full of beer to maintain the compressor then i have all i need...
Any green vegi matter in it can cause corrosion in the coils also ...... some vegies have "acid" in em, mmm bad things :-)
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Reply By: gbc - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:42
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:42
My evacool basically hasn't been turned off in 5 years - don't know if it's good or bad - but I know it doesn't owe me anything.
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:42
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 13:42
I have 2 Engels, and when they are not "in use", the are left switched off..
(always leave something such as a folded towel under the lid to allow ventilation)...
The oldest (29L) served us
well for 32 years before finally turning up it's toes midway through our recent WA trip:(
As it happens, about 5 or 6 years ago I spotted a US ebay seller selling "new old stock" Sawafuji (Engel) cooling units at what I thought was a very good price.. picked one up 'just in case', and it was delivered to my door for a little over $100 (from memory)....
When we got home, I swapped out the 'dead' cooling unit for the 'new' one, and now my ol' Engel is new again ;-))
I still leave 'em turned off when not in use...............
:)
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 16:35
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 16:35
Same as Ed says
"I have 2 Engels, and when they are not "in use", the are left switched off..
(always leave something such as a folded towel under the lid to allow ventilation)..."
Ours both were second hand and quite old. Use is spasmodic and has sometimes been years between uses.
Motherhen
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Reply By: bluefly - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:27
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:27
Joe and Mel
I run both the Engle fridge and 2kva Honda generator once a month. The three way fridge in the camper van is also switched on for half a day during this period.
I’m not a fan of leaving things idle for a long period of time.
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:43
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:43
We were advised by the Engle Repair Man in
Toowoomba to leave them off when not in use.
Im thinking more sales if they dont last because they are running 24/7, just a thought.
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Reply By: Outa Bounds - Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:53
Sunday, Oct 24, 2010 at 17:53
In our manual it just says that "it should be used at regular intervals if being stored for periods of time" which makes sense to me. It then goes on to recommend you can use it as a 2nd fridge or freezer or Bar Fridge at home during these periods.
So basically you don't have to use it all the time but you should give it an occasional run if you're not going to be using it otherwise for extended periods.
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Reply By: Steve63 - Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37
Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:37
Ours stay in the camper. They get a run for a few hours when I charge the batteries in the camper every month. No real reason and no science other than things tend to stuff up when not used for long periodes.
Steve
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Reply By: bgreeni - Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 13:03
Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 13:03
I had all my household stuff in storage for 10 years (long story, some of that time I was working Overseas) On unpacking it all most of the electrical equipment was unusable. Most items emitted a cloud of smoke when turned on or popped the ELCB.
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Follow Up By: trainslux - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:08
Tuesday, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:08
Why did they do that??
I have had things in storage that were fine and worked as new.
Even Grandparents fridge, and mix master work fine after 30 years.
What conditions were they stored in? humid, dusty, vermin/ ants etc?
If all your equipment failed after some storage, there must have been a further reason than it just being unused.
cheers
T
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Tuesday, Oct 26, 2010 at 21:46
Tuesday, Oct 26, 2010 at 21:46
Hi All
A few good reasons to run engel/ waeco fridges ON 12v are :
No seals so no problem there but
[1]the capillary tube is very small & may block with lack of occasional circulation
[2]some electronic components can deform without use[electrolytic capacitors,old metal oxide type rectifiers.
[3]Some 240v equipment also has similar components subject to same failures due the deforming from lack of use
Peter
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Reply By: kiwicol - Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 20:11
Monday, Oct 25, 2010 at 20:11
Hi,
I have an explorer fridge and have run it for the last 10 or so years, i fill it with
water bottles in the fridge and freezer, as fridges don't work efficiently with just fresh air inside.
I have
mine running of a spare battery connected to a C-Tek charger, so i am utilising 2 fixes, having a spare battery fully charged while
camping.
My reasoning is the inside of the compressor has very small parts that need movement for lubrication.
The amount of power a 12 volt fridge uses is minimal.
If one has solar panels for
camping you could also set it up at home.
Cheers Col
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