Anderson Plug crimper

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 15:33
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Hi all
Looking for a tool to crimp Anderson plugs, just wondering what you think of the following tools? I need to crimp 50 amp and 175 amp one's though I can probably just get an auto elct to do the 175's.
Cheers lyndon

http://www.schnap.com.au/tools/crimpers-/electrical-cable-crimper-tool.html

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330489543942&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Ps. Can anyone tell me if they think the jaw type for the top link is suitable?
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Reply By: Rockape - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 15:57

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 15:57
Lyndon,

I just solder mine with portagas, I heat and fill the lugs with solder making sure I leave enough room from the top so the solder doesn't overflow when the conductor is pushed in. I tin and insert the cable into the lug and have a damp rag to cool it.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 16:18

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 16:18
Thanks mate, I have been told you can solder but crimping is better? I know when I had some work done by the auto elect he crimped the 175 amp's.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 17:04

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 17:04
Lyndon,
I know at work all the 1000v 150 amp trailing cables are soldered on the drill rigs, they are constantly reeled in and out all day.

Bit of a catch 22, soldered cables tend to break one the hard point where the solder stops and crimped ones can suffer from corrosion.
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:33

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 10:33
Unless you have the right tools, skills and materials don't crimp.

Unless you have the right tools, skills and materials don't solder.
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 14:04

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 14:04
Lyndon.....I have soldered all mine and no corrosion issues when wet........contact is always good and no vibration or flexing problems causing cracking at all.......I use 50 amp size on the van,solar, cruiser and fridges as well .

Agree with Rockape and also use the same method....no problems at all.

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Reply By: bushpig51 - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 15:57

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 15:57
Hi Lyndon,

I have used both types of crimpers. The top crimper is fine for 50 amp Anderson plugs and does a good job. The bottom crimper will handle 50 amp plugs as well as larger plugs.

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 16:16

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 16:16
Hi
Thanks for that, do you know what size Anderson Plug the larger one will crimp up too? Assuming you mean't visa versa with the links?

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:06

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:06
The larger one should do close enough to 1/0 cable which is the limit for the SB175 anderson terminals. The crimper should make adequate pressure if the correct cable is used in the appropriate terminal.

BTW i went for the smaller crimper (though a CABAC K26 branding) after having a similiar decision without SB175's in the equation. This was due to its versatility in everyday crimping of smaller non-insulated terminals. The SB50 terminals fit into my "10" setting (8.0 on the ebay one IIRC) perfectly and seems to give a good solid crimp. A 25mm lug can be just used though it gives the old hands a workout and probably isn't good for the crimper long term. ;)

Hope that helps,
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:19

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:19
Hi Andrew
Thanks heap for the info. Do you know if 6 B&S is to small to be used in a 175 amp? I know it is the largest that can go in a 50 amp that is why I'm going that way.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:33

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:33
Hi Andrew
They seem quite expensive, where did you get yours and how much did you have to fork out?
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:44

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:44
The SB175 data sheet lists the range from #4 to 1/0, though you should use the correct size (there are 5 different ones) terminal with hex crimpers, or doubling over the cable may achieve adequate cross-sectional area.

The one on ebay looks the same as my more expensive version (no choice sometimes for us regionalites) though my one has two different scales on it.....whereas the ebay one only shows the one side so i can't tell. Can't recall costs, though was around $60-70 from memory.

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The only other differences are minor (mirror reflection of the setup etc) so the ebay one seems good value for money for 50A andersons. More than likely out of the same factory.....

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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 23:04

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 23:04
Hi Andrew
Yet another question, I didn't even realise that there were different size insert/connectors (not sure the correct term). Is #4 for 4 B&S cable? If so the 6 B&S I have will be to small, if I then doubled it as you mentioned what size would I go for then? Was just going to order them off eBay and hadn’t even considered this angle.
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Reply By: Member - Carl- Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:45

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 18:45
Hi Lyndon,

If you are not doing it all the time I find a set of 350mm bolt cutter works great. Obviously don't cut all the way through.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 20:01

Saturday, Oct 30, 2010 at 20:01
When I was stuck I used a set of vice grips and a blunt chisel.
Stuck the anderson plug end on in the grips just tight enough to hold it and punched it with the chisel. Looks exactly like the other ones done with a crimper.
Still Ok a year later


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Follow Up By: Gronk - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 00:38

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 00:38
Sounds good, but how do you know it squashed all the strands together ??

When you have no other choice.....its OK to botchie it up, but if the cable doesn't match the size of the lug, then soldering is the way to go..
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 00:53

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 00:53
Well I had 6 B&S in it and it was tight to get it in and it is squashed in as far as crimpers do it and it hasnt come out with a very good pull or a years worth of vibration


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Reply By: Ray - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 09:02

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 09:02
I've always soldered my Anderson plugs. Never had any trouble with breakage or corrosion
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:13

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:13
Same here.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:06

Sunday, Oct 31, 2010 at 11:06
Lyndon,

Another thing to consider is the diameter of the lugs supplied with the Anderson connector.
They come in at least two different sizes.

I only solder my connections and if the "hole" in the lug is too big (or the wire diameter too small) I wrap the end of the stripped cable with a single strand of solid copper wire before inserting into the pool of solder. Also, I never tin the cable end first for this type of solder joint.
Never had one fail yet.


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Reply By: mikeyandmary - Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 18:24

Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 18:24
I was in a similar situation a couple of months ago when I rewired my dual battery system. I bought this hydraulic crimper

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4-70mm-HYDRAULIC-CRIMPER-Cable-Crimping-Tool-8-dies-/200538244370?pt=AU_B_I_Electrical_Test_Equipment&hash=item2eb102c512

It works well and has a range of jaw sizes. I was crimping 50 amp plugs and some battery terminals (8mm-10mm hole diameter)

No affiliation with the seller, just a happy customer.
Michael
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Follow Up By: mikeyandmary - Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 18:27

Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 18:27
Ebay Link

oops... didn't use the insert link thing :-)
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Reply By: kingswoodwagon - Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 23:28

Monday, Nov 01, 2010 at 23:28
in this day and age - you tube is your friend
video how to solder anderson plugs

this video includes soldering anderson plugs.

enjoy


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Reply By: Sigmund - Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 15:47

Tuesday, Nov 02, 2010 at 15:47
I've stripped enough insulation off to bend the copper wire back on itself and then just crimped with pliers.
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