CB or HF Radio's

Hello fellow travellers,

Do you really need to have a CB or HF radio while travelling around Australia?? If so, what type should I get?? I understand they only work up to a 15 klms radius, so if they are needed, why?? All feedback appreciated.

Thanks
Wayne
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Reply By: wato35 - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:36

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:36
Wayne & Gaby
I took a UHF with us when we travelled around Oz, it was very handy for passing road trains and getting info on road conditions etc. We could have done the trip without one, but I wouldn't.
They are great if you are travelling with other vehicles.
If you are planning to go off the beaten track and are worried about communication then maybe a Sat phone is what you need.
Have a great trip

Wato
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Reply By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:47

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:47
Do you mean HF or VHF? HF, is a system which allows communication throughout the country, and is the subject of much debate as to whether it is better than a sat phone. It is expensive to set up and you must join one of the support organisations that are available. VHF is a much cheaper option but does have very restricted range. It is mainly used for inter-convoy communications, or talking to truckies etc.

teege
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Follow Up By: The roadrunner - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:40

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:40
vhf will be no good for talking to truckies, what they need is a UHF, Vhf is great if you are on the ocean
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Follow Up By: Member - Teege (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:22

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:22
Yep you got me - my mistake.
teege
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Reply By: Member - Bill S (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:52

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:52
Hi Wayne and Gaby,

They are not needed as such when traveling however they are a handy item to have.

When on the road CB radios (uhf) will allow you to talk with people and vehicles nearby. Basically this is known as Line of Sight. You could pick up a second hand set and aerial for a couple of hundred dollars. HF radios are a different story. How much are you willing to spend, joining an organization to use it etc. but with a far greater range (1000's of km's).

As mentioned previously perhaps a sat. phone is the answer by hiring one when needed.

If you purchase any equipment stick to reputable dealers and well known brands and you won't have any trouble.

Bill S.
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Reply By: anglepole - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:58

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 08:58
Hi.

Just click on the following link.

http://www.exploroz.com/OntheRoad/Communications/Guide_to_Comms.aspx

It appears on the home page of exploroz.com

It will answer your questions and some.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:06

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 20:06
Guide to Comms




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Reply By: Outback Bob - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:24

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:24
If travelling solo as mentioned yuo dont need one, eg when we are solo on the highway it's never on. If we go away with friends it's always on, handy to be able to communicate. I have no interest in chatting to strangers on the highway over a radio.
OB
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:16

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:16
Hmmm Maybe you were one of the ones I was trying to call when trying to pass.

Nothing worse than seeing an aerial but no one to get an answer from.

Why have it and not have it on.

We dont hold chats either but its on all the time for when its needed for trucks etc..

They are for necessary usage only and that includes listening for wide loads coming around corners etc.

We would have been wrecked once but for the UHF warning us just in time by a Pilot who wasnt doing his job properly.

No radio no life just about.

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Follow Up By: Outback Bob - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:48

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 22:48
What a load of nonsense.
When we travel in our sedan, and as do thousands of others, we dont, or they dont have or need a cb radio.
For some reason we all go out and buy one just because we have a 4wd. Granted they are great off road and as mentioned when travelling in a group.
My answer remains the same, not needed on the highway.
OB
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Follow Up By: BuggerBoggedAgain - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 23:35

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 23:35
If only these thousands of others got one, we wouldn't be bombblasted over speeding fines. Todays police force is about money, we haven't seen a mobile radar for 6 weeks here in Taree, saving up for Xmas rush.

I like my monies in my pocket, not Govts. Have been trucking for 30 yrs, since every-one with uniform loves taking from poor to give to rich, Govt., so for me a CB/UHF is a must, one in my rig, one in my car, one on my GS1100GKE

Never leave home with-out one.

Also just remembered, came upon accident scene, back in those days, no mobiles, just a UHF, called for ambulance which was relayed down the line, first on scene, tow-truck, go figure, he told me he called ambulance from his work shop, helped ladies out of vehicle and patched them up and waited for ambos.

By the time I got back to work in Sydney, news travelled fast ....................
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:44

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:44
To Outback Bob

Perhaps you have never been on some of the narrow "out of the city roads"

Firstly we are talking about touring rigs usually with a van in tow or a motorhome etc.

A head in the sand attitude if ever I saw one.

Shows a total lack of consideration for others. if you have a UHF and dont keep it on when in the outback.

Also chatting away with your convoy friends is inconsiderate unless you do it on lesser used channels.

If on the accepted normal channels it could prevent an emergency call getting through.

The very reason I no longer scan channel 18. To much inane chatter about cows in paddocks and what the users are going to have for tea.

I consider a UHF a TOOL not a TOY and use it as such.

Great for hearing about problems ahead, wide loads coming, road conditions, all sorts of things a prudent driver would like to know.

But some are content to blithely cruise along oblivious to anything around them.

I support Buggarboggedagain but for different reasons.






You obvioudsly didnt read the end of my followup or have ever been in the situation or you may change your view.

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Follow Up By: Outback Bob - Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 18:53

Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 18:53
Back again, just been on a trip interstate without a uhf, just a quickie down the coast in the city car.
Bogged old son I also have a way of avoiding speeding fines, DONT SPEED ! and you too will never pay another cent in fines.
Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 19:08

Thursday, Dec 16, 2010 at 19:08
Just to clarify things

We use ours when towing the van.

Dont use it when in tug only, but occasionally have it on just in case.

Just a quickie down the coast but not speeding ??????????

Surprised you can type while patting yourself on the back.




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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:52

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:52
Hi Wayne,

Have a look at the article on communications - it will answer a lot of your questions. There have also been many posts on this same topic so try a search of this forum.

Be aware that UHF and HF radios are quite different and serve very different purposes. UHF is for short distances only and is useful if travelling with a group, or to arrange safe passing of trucks and caravans.

HF radio networks allow you to talk across the country. They are essential for travelling into remote areas (some claim that a sat phone is a substitute but again they offer different capabilities) to allow others to know that you are safe and to be able to call for help if that is needed - or just to listen to other travellers reports of road conditions etc.

What you need is dependent on where you plan to go.

Cheers,

Val
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Reply By: Rockape - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:44

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 10:44
Wayne,
where uhf radios come in handy at all times is relaying safety information, these are some recent examples of this.

Yesterday a call came over the radio to say one of our bridges were blocked, I asked which bridge and with that reply I was able to use the other one.

Couple of weeks ago another call that the highway was blocked by a bad accident and would be for a couple of hours. I then stopped at Homehill and waited. 1 hour later a call came that the road had reopened and by the time I got there all was clear.

About the same time received a call that water was across the road at a couple of places on the highway, also the depth of water was relayed. We all know what happens when you hit water at speed.

I could go on and on about cattle on the road, people walking along the road in the middle of the night, diverting around bushfires, accidents, broken down vehicles out over the fog line, large dead animals on the road, how far fog and rain go for, wide loads, large potholes or whether the road verges are soft and I could keep going on. If you don't know where a particular trouble spot is just ask, then you normally get a response like X amount of K's north or south of a town.

When around large towns I sometimes turn it down because of the crap that dribbles out of some retards mouth.

I have always found them a valuable piece of equipment right from my trucking days through to my 4wd and a handheld in my road car.

Have a good one.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:40

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:40
Hi Wayne

On the open road having a UHF is very useful; particularly when towing. It enables you to keep in touch with heavy haulage trucks and convoys and other travellers. You will know of any hazards ahead from listening to other traffic, and may be able to find and alternative route by asking for advice. A built in unit with external antenna gives a better range and sound quality, but a small hand held two way can be sufficient for communicating with those in close proximity. In flat country a conversation can be picked many kilometres away, so be specific in identifying yourself and the truck you want to talk to; eg “Red XXfreightlines truck behind YYYbrand caravan rego ABC123”.

On some roads my husband has said "UHF should be compulsory here". Essential for passing and allowing others to pass you, to announce and hear announcements from oncoming traffic on narrow roads at bridges and crests, and worthwhile to be aware of hazards up ahead. Stay in the highway channel 40 (unless other channel specified for that area), unless chit-chatting in which case move to another channel. In some outback areas, narrow bridges will have numbers, and it is essential to monitor for road trains approaching and give way, and to announce your presence eg “Caravan northbound approaching bridge 14”.

For a guide to which channels are used for what purposeUseful UHF channels chart. On most roads and highways, channel 40 is the most used channel and the one to keep in touch with trucks drivers and over sized load escorts.

Like Rockape, ours goes off or volume right down when in a large town where the airwaves are full of noise and rubbish.

A hand help unit is sufficient to keep in touch with the traffic around you.

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Reply By: anglepole - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 16:44

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 16:44
Just one other thing, UHF channel spacing is going from 25k to 12,5k on January 1 2011.

If you are buying a new UHF CB and you are in for the long run, buy one that can be reprogrammed to 12.5. One that comes to mind is Icom Pro.

Hope this helps
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Follow Up By: drjfly - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 17:26

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 17:26
Can you explain this a little more? eg I assume all current radio's will still work fine on the existing 40 channels?? Also an assumption but does this mean there will now be 80 channels?

Regards
Darren
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Follow Up By: anglepole - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 19:02

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 19:02
Hi Darren,

Have a look at this site, it explanes the changes.

http://www.uhfcb.com.au/

Cheers
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Follow Up By: drjfly - Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 19:21

Tuesday, Dec 14, 2010 at 19:21
Thanks for that

Regards
Darren
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Follow Up By: Outa Bounds - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 19:16

Wednesday, Dec 15, 2010 at 19:16
Yes I doubt the retailers would be telling any buyers about that.
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