Lake Eyre is still rapidly filling!

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:19
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I think there are still many who doubt my theory that Lake Eyre may fill, but the lake is still rapidly filling from the Western rivers. The area has had a lot of cloud cover lately, but today there was a slight break in the clouds.Check out the satelite photos tonight or tomorrow morning before they are replaced with tomorrow's cloudy images. The rapid progress of the water across Lake Eyre North is nothing short of amazing.

Rain squalls are tracking inland tonight from the two cyclones and will probably dump another considerable band of rain along the Neales and Macumba. They will also probably block the satellite until later in the weekend. I am getting giddy with excitement awaiting the next clear view of the entire Lake Eyre north area. Has anyone made an overflight of the area in the past week?
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Reply By: Member - Vin & Lisa - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:38

Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:38
Very exciting! We are hoping to be there to see it for ourselves in under 4 weeks... on the one hand I hope it keeps raining, on the other not so much that tracks are closed! Not sure if the lake will completely fill this season, but there will certainly be water to see, still an amazing sight I'm sure.
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Reply By: Member - Tommy T (Moonta SA) - Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:58

Thursday, Feb 17, 2011 at 23:58
G'day NavyKid

Like you & I, there are many people watching with interest the water flowing into Lake Eyre .... some to fly over it & some to travel to Marree & hopefully drive as close to the lake as possible to see the huge expanse of water at ground level. Members of the Lake Eyre Yacht Club (LEYC) were hoping to sail there this year as they did on Lake Killamperpunna last year. This lake is between the Cooper Creek crossing of the Birdsville Track & where the Cooper Creek ferry has been operating. Everyone who has been to Marree would noticed the LEYC building & probably thought ... "a yacht club in the middle of the Outback ... you must be joking !!! " I should add that I am not a member of the LEYC but I do very much admire their spirit of adventure.
Below is a copy of an email sent to me by the Commodore of the Lake Eyre Yacht Club .... I do not need to add any comments because I think it is self explanatory.

"The current inflow into Lake Eyre means that the Lake will reach a level comparable or slightly higher than 2000. It is only mid-monsoon at the moment so we are expecting more water, particularly from the larger rivers in Queensland, assuming further cyclones. In the bottom left hand corner of our web site's lake status page is a link to a satellite image of the massive Neales flood.

A spanner has been thrown into the works by National Parks refusal to give permission for us to sail on Lake Eyre until they have obtained the OK from the native title claimants. This means that realistically speaking the only way to boat on Lake Eyre this year will be by committing an illegal act and given the anger in our membership this may happen.

We were planning an informal gathering on the Lake aroundEaster (it would be too hard to organise a formal event due to the politics) and another regatta at Lake Killamperpunna in July as it would be easy to repeat and we all had such a great time in 2010. Believe it or not, even though Etadunna are quite happy to have us return to Killamperpunna, the Aboriginal Heritage Department are threatening to take action against us sailing on any waterway in the Lake Eyre Basin.

It seems that the South Australian Government are happy to remove our common law right to access and boat on a navigable waterway. We find this amazing given that there is no legal difference between our sailing territory and the River Murray. Unfortunately we cannot match the free legal services the complainants have at their disposal so all we can do is make the public aware of the erosion of the right to recreate in a National Park in an environmentally sustainable way.

In addition the Station Manager of Stuart Creek, a BHP owned property, has cut access to Lake Eyre South in response to pressure from the native title claimants. This access track, has been used since the year dot, by locals and those in the know to access Lake Eyre South in an area of firm beach with water only 30m from the National Park boundary. It has never been formalised as a public access track because it is only a few kilometres off the Oodnadatta Track and had never caused problems.

I've always wondered why South Australia was such an economically depressed state when the rest of the country was booming. Now I know why.


Bob Backway,
Commodore of the Lake Eyre Yacht Club "


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Follow Up By: Rockape - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 20:27

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 20:27
line up all your trailers and boats up and go for it, don't show any club tee shirts just do it as private citizens and get the media along to document everything.

I have no problem with native title but I do have a problem with some of the government c@#kheads we have to endure.
This great country is meant to be shared by all, not closed off by a few.

With the the mining company mentioned it may not be as it seems due to some Australians and part of the legal profession, they maybe worried that they will be sued if an accident happens on their lease.

Happy sailing and when the wind shifts remember to dump the main so the boom hits the idiots fair square in the mouth.

Have a good one
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:06

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:06
I've always thought that Native Title is divisive and will ultimately lead to a country within this country.

Every time I read something like this I know I'm right.

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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 00:22

Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 00:22
Don't you love the way people jump in boots and all while knowing next to nothing about the issue. Can't see why access would or should be denied to the club (or anyone else) myself but then again I'm in the aforementioned category. If it is as simple as keeping 'non-country' (or whatever the correct indigenous term is) people out/off the lake then it certainly seems blo0dy-minded. The native title claimants and responsible govt authorities would surely realise that such pettiness is a sure fired way of losing the support of moderate Australians. This might only be a blip on most people's radar but by it's very unreasonableness (my assumption) it could do significant damage to the public's attitude to indigenous affairs. Publicity is obviously the answer to getting the bureaucracy to work for all Australians (Dick Smith for example might be interested in this one???). Let's hope the club gets a fair outcome (though it seems from the email that they've thrown in the towel).
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 08:21

Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 08:21
I guess you are answering my reply.
1. I stated I have no problems with native title.
2. Tom stated access had been withdrawn, then you say you can't see why. Do you believe him or not.
3. I gave a maybe why bhp closed a property access. Had nothing to do with native title or governments.
4. Have a look at all the national park areas being closed to 4wds. Who is closing them. It wouldn't be those people who don't want to alienate us would it.
5. Yes! government departments drive me crazy.
6. I hate wearing boots, if you are referring to me it would be jump in feet and all..
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 19:43

Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 19:43
I certainly believe him Rocky, simply pointing out that WE don't have ANY of the facts before us so it's nonsense to be criticising anyone or guessing as to the behind-the-scenes jostling. When I said I can't see why access would be denied I was referring to the bureaucracy, but the depts may have been acting on legal advice or simply following government policy/ministerial direction.

I understand where you are coming from, don't necessarily agree wholly with the sentiment, but I certainly want clarification of the reasons behind their decisions in this case. That's why I hope the club makes some noise. It is simply not good enough in a democracy to say 'we refuse permission' - politicians should be accountable for the actions of their departmental officers, and actions such as this need proper explanation. Then we can make our own judgements if it is reasonable or not.
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Reply By: normglenda - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 18:56

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 18:56
Is it better viewing of the lake from Halligan Bay or out from Marree
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Follow Up By: Member - Warrie (NSW) - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:32

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:32
Hi Norm, the view of Lake Eyre South is both easier and cheaper as it is only 200m off the Oodnadatta Track and you have a bit of elevation looking down onto the water. From Maree it will cost $80 in fuel as it's a 200km round trip . Click this link Muloorina to Level Post Bay Track for pix of the road/track. 50 km 4WD each way but a Magna can do it. There is a hill to improve the view.
Halligan Bay campsite is 71km from William Ck with 64 of this 4WD. Pix of Halligans show it's flat with no hills to give a better view................W

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:39

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:39
last year we drove from Marree through to William Creek (small part of a big trip on the way through Simpson Desert), Lake Eyre South was quite a sight to see, though it was best viewed from the road a few kilometers before you got to the actual lookout point. you could see water at the lookout, but nowhere near as well as you could see it a few kilometers back South towards Marree way. we had lunch at the lookout and then headed off to Halligan Bay, the water could be viewed there so much more then what you saw at the lookout, it was like being at the beach.
our plan was to set up our tent and camp at Halligan Bay the night, but the wind was howling and we weren't overly impressed with the amount of flat ground to set up tents on (we were in a group of 7 vehicles), so we headed back to William Creek and camped there and watched Qld smash NSW in the State of Origin and win another series yet

here's what we saw straight out from the lookout at Lake Eyre South at lunchtime.

here is a pic taken no more then 50 meters from the day use carpark at Halligan Bay. i know it doesn't really show it, but all you could see to our left and right out infront of us was water.

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:43

Friday, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:43
just to clarafiy abit...that pic at Lake Eyre South was taken with a 100 - 300mm zoom lense at full zoom, so water is alot further away then it looks. the second pic was taken with a much smaller lense
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham Watson (SA) - Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 02:23

Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 02:23
We were attheLake Eyre South lookout in October 2011 but couldn't to Halligan Bay or Level Post Bay because of track closures. Water was clearly visible from the lookout carpark then, and easily reached. In contrast someone who had been to Level Post Bay only a few days before said not much water was visible there. So it would seem that which is the best site will depend on when you go.
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For the rest of our photos of that trip go to flickr
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Follow Up By: rumpig - Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 22:55

Saturday, Feb 19, 2011 at 22:55
we would have been there in August sometime i think from memory, so the water must have filled that South area after we had been there by the looks of your pics.
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Reply By: Teraa - Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 20:01

Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 20:01
Maybe we shouldn't be running around feeling like every part of the country is there to do with how ever you like and maybe there has been a lack of doing the right thing in the past that's coming back to haunt you. Maybe how one stomps around the place is anothers nightmare. Shouldn't we at least let the traditional owners speak before they are condemend.
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Follow Up By: Members - Bow & Nan - Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 21:01

Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 21:01
Go to Coober Pedy and have a look at the traditional owners.

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Reply By: Teraa - Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 21:31

Sunday, Feb 20, 2011 at 21:31
What's that suppose to mean tell me who do you think are the Traditional owners of which Bob talks about
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