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Hi I presently have a 120 Watt solar panel, but it is not giving me the power I want, can I connect a40 watt panel to it to give me the power I want
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Reply By: Simon (NT) - Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 at 21:47

Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 at 21:47
Hi Paul,

I've spent a lot of money on Solar stuff of late and got some decent results but again had that problem of not getting the power that I wanted.

First question is whether or not you have a stand-a-lone solar power controller / regulator?

If not might I suggest the Regulator that is available from JAYCAR Electronics, not sure of the exact details but it's about $180, and allows you to hook up half a dozen panels to it, something like up to 600W or something... I'm just saving up to get one of these myself to fit in to my bus which will soon have solar panels across the entire roof.

I've got 2 x 80W foldable panels, my problem was that without using an external regulator then one panel could cancel out the other panel when the sun moved over both of them, thus not getting full AMPS out of the panels to charge my 100Ah deep cycle.
THUS what I ended up with was approx 12 days of power for my FridgeMate 55L car fridge before I had to re-charge the deep cycle from a battery charger. That was running BOTH the panels at once so that one was NE facing, the other NW facing.

120W solar panel as one unit will still only get power through the optimum times of the day based on the direction it faces. Panels should be at the degree angle that you are in Latitude (is it latitude that goes across ways? - if it's not then it's supposed to be longitude, but whichever it's about 23 degrees in Alice Springs to give an idea). So unless you move the panel about once an hour to follow the curvature of the sun across the sky you won't get full power out of it, and at best you'll probably end up with no more than about 10 to 12 Amps coming out of it, though that's brilliant if you do get that - worth checking with an Amp Meter.

So firstly, a second panel would be great. Might I suggest an 80W though, it's better to go slightly bigger and have too much power than not enough. Grab an external Regulator if you don't have one, and plug your panels all in to the Regulator and then take your power out of the Regulator as well..
Hopefully, it'll all work to give you what you want.

What are you powering and what sort of battery do you have?

Can you give me some more info and I'll see if I can give you more help on it.. (no, I'm not an expert, just have over $1500 invested in solar stuff and adding more to be able to power everything on my bus with Solar - I'll do a write-up some day.)
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Follow Up By: Lex M (Brisbane) - Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 at 22:28

Tuesday, Mar 22, 2011 at 22:28
"120W solar panel " .... "no more than about 10 to 12 Amps coming out of it"

A realistic figure for a 120W solar panel is max of about 7-8 Amps (unless your using a MPPT regulator) for about 6 hours a day average and only then when accurately aimed.



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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:19

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 11:19
Hi
I agree with Lex.
It is impossable to get 12amps out of a 120watt solar panel
Something is wrong perhaps your ampmeter
You can connect mulitple panels of different wattage in parallel before the regulator AS LONG AS THE REGULATOR CAN CARRY THE CURRENT[within it's rating]
Peter
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Follow Up By: Simon (NT) - Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 00:15

Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 00:15
Ooooeeee...

Well, lucky it's all in the subtle wording of my sentence.

"and at best you'll probably end up with no more than about 10 to 12 Amps coming out of it, though that's brilliant if you do get that"

'at best'

My 80W panel can achieve 5.5 - 6 Amps in full sun. So ok, perhaps the 120W panel won't get 10 - 12 Amps but it is possible to get around 10 I would imagine. But as I also stated I'm NOT an expert, and also I DON'T have a 120W solar panel to test or even use for examples..

And yes, an external regulator would make a HUGE difference. That's been my let down with my 2 x 80W panels.
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Reply By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 00:33

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 00:33
Where / from whom did you purchase the 120 Watt panel?

Can you provide a link?

Thanks..

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Follow Up By: Simon (NT) - Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 00:22

Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 00:22
120W solar panels are available from JAYCAR:

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZM9098&keywords=120w+solar+panel&form=KEYWORD for a non-folding

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZM9134&keywords=120w+solar+panel&form=KEYWORD for a folding (bear in mind that the folding is about $250 more expensive.

Powertech is the manufacturer.. They are pretty much the main supplier that I've found so far for full assembled PV Solar panels.

Though 1 x 120W solar panel will have the same problems as above unless you chase the sun all day. 2 x 60W or 2 x 80W might be better for you.
Good luck.
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Reply By: skmaint (WA) - Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 23:28

Wednesday, Mar 23, 2011 at 23:28
Hi Paul,

How much power do you need? ????
My 120's Will charge my batteries, 2 x 120Ahr and run my 80Ltr Waeco.
But I do chase the sun and move panels on a regular basis.

Cheers
Simon.
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Reply By: paul j2 - Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 22:47

Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 22:47
Thanks for the replies, Re the solar panel, I dont seem to be getting the amps that you all talk about, at the best I seem to get about 6amps, through my regulator, my frig pull;s between 6 and 4 amps, so I need a bit more panel, I saw that a 40 Watt panel is suppose to give about 2 Amps and I thought that may be enough for me, but I dont know if I can marry up the 120 with a 40 watt panel. I have bought my panel from sydney on ebay
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Follow Up By: Simon (NT) - Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 23:17

Thursday, Mar 24, 2011 at 23:17
Hey Paul,

Not a bad thought, though I would suggest grabbing an 80W, after all, you get more Watts for your money, it's only a little bit more expensive, and it will ensure that you should be able to charge your battery without the issue I had with a bit of a drain each day (if you get say a foldable one you can keep moving it to follow the sun if you like and run it through the same regulator, OR make it another fixed one and run through one regulator for two).

My thought is that if you have say 200W capability and your battery is being fully charged every day then you can also say run your phone charger off of the same system, or a laptop or something.. perhaps just an inverter, dunno, maybe you might like a couple of 12v LED lights or something.

Anyway, give that some thought.
I seem to be the devils advocate here at the moment, happy to give you my thoughts if you want to know, or drop me a private message or email if you want to know more. At the moment I'm trying to convert my place to 12v SOLAR powered lights, and to solar power my fridge without a deficit. Though I've yet to build the extra panel I need (I'm going to be building my own panels to fit to the roof).

Good luck no matter how you do it.

Simon
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed C (QLD) - Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 01:03

Friday, Mar 25, 2011 at 01:03
Ebay seller ID ??

a link to an identical listing (from the same seller) would be handy ;-)

When did you by the panel?

Thanks..

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