Mack Bullbar on a 200 series

I saw one of those massive 5 poster bullbars on a 200 series this morning like they put on those B&S utes, it also had 2 brush bars running down from the bar to the side steps, to be honest it looked totally stupid and to me really made the cruiser look cheap but each to their own. What I was wondering was surely these bars are not air bag compatible ?? I was doing a search this morning but couldnt find any thing on them relating to airbags but I have also seen them on the new VE commodore utes as a B&S ute with 20 uhf aerials hanging off them. Are these things airbag compatible does anyone know or are all these blokes risking injury by the airbag not deploying if needed ???.......... Or are they not worried due to the size of the bullbar.........
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Reply By: Member Boroma 604 - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 09:24

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 09:24
Gooday,
Yes, when I see those B&S utes etc with these monsters on, it would appear that many of the owners would not be saved by airbags anyway in the way they drive.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 09:50

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 09:50
Its very unlikley to be air-bag compatable, the only sidesteps that I know for a 200 that are compatable are the TJM ones.

Also, I believe the main issue is not lack of air-bag deployment but going off on small bumps/knocks . The rigid fixing to the vehicle transmits the impact and its interpreted as a hard knock and ... kaboom.

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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:50

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:50
Well there you go, the "Tuff" ones are airbag compatable, you learn something everyday.

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 10:18

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 10:18
If you lived in roo country you would want one too , " Tuff " bars and side rails are air bag compliant , biggest problem is the waiting list.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:29

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:29
If it was me I would ask Toyota that exact question and get it in writing on paper.

Phil
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Reply By: Time - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 10:52

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 10:52


Check Here

Not pretty, but apparently legal.
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Follow Up By: ob - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:51

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:51
Gotta be handy in the shopping centre carpark to keep them pesky trolleys at bay.............lol



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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:12

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:12
That pic makes baby Jesus cry...
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 13:06

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 13:06
Well there you go, all legal thanks for that Time, Im still wondering how it passed the legal side of it in regards to lighting etc, totally blocks side blinkers, parking lights etc I know when I had the ARB bars they had extra parking and blinker lights in them as it was required by law and even the soverign bar on my 120 prado has extra parking and blinker light in bullbar and yet you can see the original lights no problems even at the required angles, where as this picture it only seems to have an extra single light at the bottom of the bar ?? Ah well must be legal. Cheers Regards Steve
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Follow Up By: Muddy.au - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:04

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:04
Has to be from Queensland ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Corrugate75 - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 21:06

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 21:06
I think this picture is in the wrong post - should be in Friday Funnies! What does it do to front suspension? Should keep the steer tyres bolted to the road!
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Follow Up By: blown4by - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 15:32

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 15:32
Not legal in WA
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Reply By: vk1dx - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:33

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:33
Absolutely useless where any approach angle is important. You wouldn't even get half way up the Old Telegraph Track on Cape York. And for the Vic High places - Forget it.

I wonder how they would go on the deeply rutted desert tracks. Maybe bulldoze the center hump out of the way so that we can take our house cars there also!

Phil
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:56

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 11:56
hi vk1dx
what makes you think everyone who owns a 200lc wants to go to the vic high country or drive the old telli track some just want the altimate protection and have no desire to go into the out of way places or deep rutted tracks

you should open your mind up a bit and except all vehicle owners have different views on where they will or will not take their 4by's and what appeals to one someone else may dislike
that's what makes this great country and its people so versatile the owner must have been happy with it and was happy to shell out the $'s for it

having lived a large part of my life in roo country and hit several
i for one think the roo bar you totally dislike is a really great protection and well made and wouldn't hesitate fitting the same to my vehicle if i had a 200 ser lc cheers
barry
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Follow Up By: ben_gv3 - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:16

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:16
Mazcan - is this like saying "Soccer Mums" have the right (but not necessarily the sense) to drive their 4WD's to drop little Timmy to school???

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:16

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 12:16
My very first statement was "Absolutely useless where any approach angle is important". Surely you must understand then where I was coming from. Therefore your rebuke about "open your mind" was way out of order.

The "deep rutted desert tracks" I was referring to are such as the Simpson Desert and the Canning Stock Route. Two very popular drives for a large number of regulars to this forum and 4WD touring as well. Thus my post could quite well be relevant to a large number of 4WD owners.

I have also lived for more than 30 years in the country and have scored my share of animals including some cattle. Not one of those incidents caused any damage to myself nor any passengers, and for the two times I was carrying livestock - Ditto!

We now have a steel bullbar on our car and it will suffice our needs. No more driving for a living. Thank god.

I really do not care what anyone does to their car, let alone the 200. It's their business, money, safety and as long as they do not adversely affect society, then so be it.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 16:55

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 16:55
Phil, if you really want a snappish response, ask him what "QUEBBAMBIDDYBUMTAL" means!

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:25

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:25
Couldn't be bothered.
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Reply By: gbc - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 14:39

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 14:39
That's the difference between city and country. City worries if their car might look 'cheap'. Country just wants the best bar for the job. If driving around between dusk and dawn is on the cards, then a decent bar is a must. Try hitting a pig with an arb bar and see what it does to the running gear, and your Mrs who's driving the kids back from the school fete - hence the low deflectors.
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Follow Up By: Rockape - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 16:24

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 16:24
gbc,
you are right on the money. I have seen at least 3 of these in the Mckinlay shire that belong to property owners, they use them to go to town on dirt and blacktop roads, not go off road and the reason is pigs, cattle and roos.

Have a good one,
RA
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Reply By: sweetwill - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 15:35

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 15:35
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Reply By: nick - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 16:19

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 16:19
These bars IMHO are what give Bull Bars a bad name, gotta be the most user unfriendly bar ava...............
And there is nothing wrong with "normal" type of bull bars in roo country either.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:39

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:39
These bars giving bull bars a bad name ??? The only reason bull bars of any persuasion are getting a bad name is from the "wannabees" who think they need a bull bar and and a 4 inch lift plus every other accessory known to man to drive the kids the 2-3 klm to school in the city and then actually THINK they need all the stuff for their 2-3 week trip away from the eastern seaboard,
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Follow Up By: gbc - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 06:56

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 06:56
'Normal' bullbars (Like my TJM steel bar), don't hold up too well at all. I've cleaned up a few average skippys with my current bar and gotten away with it, however there's plenty of holes for them to go right through the loops or straight through the middle, or in the case of pigs and wombats, straight under without having barely had a haircut by the bar.
Big bars like the Herds are damned expensive, and away from the B&S scene - talk to any country family that has one on the family car and there will be a story that goes with owning one. It is all about surviving the impact with livestock. That is all. Not a fashion statement, not a fun way to burn $6k. I've even seen them fitted to police issues Prados that have to go driving at all hours.
I would have concerns with city people fitting them without good reason, and I would also take exception if the pedestrian council came west of the range and started putting driver's lives at risk. It's a big country eh.
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:35

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 17:35
Since the anti bull bar mob came out of the woodwork, this company has gone absolutely gang busters, so much publicity, and so it continues

Some of their bullbars are ridiculously oversized, most common on commodores and falcons ute's mainly, and are EXPENSIVE, but no company in their right mind would built stuff that SOME say doesn't look right, unless there was demand for that product, believe me, plenty are buying, plenty are waiting, plenty are PAYING knowing what they are getting,


Not pratical in the VHC, Cape york, Canning or Simpson prehaps, but most of these bullbar owners have no intention of going to these places, besides most of these bullbars will probably end up on 2WD utes that don't get too close to pedestrians, but often get close to wildlife.

Horses for courses,


Shane
PS I wouldn't get one myself, simply doesn't meet MY needs

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Reply By: SDG - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 19:53

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 19:53
Any body notice the number plate?
To me it indicates a company car (Tuff bullbars) displaying their work and what they can do. Would most likely never be driven much off the tarmac. I have seen similar company vehicles, at various different functions, displaying their work.
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:01

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:01
If you look at their website, every picture (and there are dozens) have the same TUFF "numberplate". It is a fake plate and I would imagine that the photos are of customers vehicles.

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Follow Up By: SDG - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:34

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 20:34
I just thought this vehicle was the one being discussed.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 09:06

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 09:06
Head out to Barccy - Longreach _- Winton way and look what bullbar is the most common and prefered by the locals who drive the roo infested roads , yep the " Tuff" brand with side rails.
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Reply By: snoopyone - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 22:06

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 22:06
Its toooooooooo clean to be a REAL 4b anyway.

Must have a Toorak address.
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl (QLD) - Friday, May 27, 2011 at 22:32

Friday, May 27, 2011 at 22:32
They look heavy to me. Everyone to their own I guess. All that picture is missing is low profile tyres.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (NT) - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 15:35

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 15:35
That's not a Mack Bullbar.

THIS IS A MACK BULLBAR and it's not 5 poster.

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In fact I don't think I've ever seen a 5 poster bar on trucks.

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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 15:45

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Reply By: blown4by - Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 16:00

Saturday, May 28, 2011 at 16:00
I agree it is bars like that in the photo that give professionally designed, legal and air bag compliant bull bars and 4WD's and their owners in general a bad name and draws unwanted attention to the "No 4WD's in the city" and "No bullbars" debate. Anyone who lives in the "real outback" would not have a bar anything like that one and as most know in thickly infested roo country you just do not drive at night unless it is your profession or an absolute emergency. In the latter case you then drive according to the conditions. 90% of B&S V8 Mongrel Utes would not last 10 minutes in the real bush with their illegal side marker lamps, external cabin lamps, Mack bulldog emblem, white aerials in each corner, illegal imitation rego plates such as Bundy Girl, Rum Pig, etc, RM Williams mudflaps so low they spray following vehicles with road debris every time they contact the road, oh yes and best of all the aluminium side mud spats attached to the rocker panel below the door that should you hit someone and the 5 poster illegal bullbar does not kill you then the sharp edges on the mud spats will slice you open like a scalpel spilling someones guts all over the road. But thats OK cos we need all that stuff in the bush. I say B-S. Passenger vehicles are actually designed to minimise the injuries caused to pedestrians should one ever be hit and bars like that stuff up completely the design criteria that it is preferable to break the legs rather than break a persons back which in most cases will destine them to be wheel chair bound for life. I agree with the comments re the affect on geometric visibility and that bar fails to follow the designed body lines of the vehicle and exceeds the bonnet height.
If it looks like it should be on a Kenworth, then it probably should be on a Kenworth. (Apologies to Kenworth)
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 18:07

Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 18:07
The actual bar that you denigrate is professionally designed , fully legal and whats more airbag compliant ,your statement that anyone who lives in the "real " outback would not have a bar anything like that just shows your ignorance , your silly statement that country people dont drive at night is laughable , you think people dont drive to go to the movies or a concert or a dinner or night golf or tennis or a million other reasons ,
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Follow Up By: Member Al (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 18:16

Sunday, May 29, 2011 at 18:16
......."movies or a concert or a dinner or night golf"........

I thought they were doing it tough in the bush?
You can't believe nuthin' ya read, can ya? LOL

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:17

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:17
Al , yep people that live out here in the geographical centre of Qld ,drive to the nearest big smoke [ Longreach ] in the dark of night with their bullbars to go to the movies etc , picture theatre may only be open 2 or 3 nights a week so you have to make the best of it ,LOL.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:44

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:44
Peak hour traffic was at 7:30 on SATURDAY night. Just before the picture started. The return rush "hour" was just after 10PM when the pub closed.

Memories!!!

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Reply By: vk1dx - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:46

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 10:46
Where does the winch go?

Phil

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:33

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:33
Probably in the same spot Robin Millers goes on his GU ;)


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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:38

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:38
Where is that?

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:47

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:47
In the front, mounted without need of a front bar as he only has the standard bumper, same principle could be applied to the Tuff Bars.

Whose to say that the buyer wants a vehicle mounted winch anyway. I only have one cause it was on the vehicle when i bought it. I still take the hand winch with me as it is more useful.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:58

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 11:58
Are you saying that it is mounted to the front of the bar?

Have you got a photo or anything to show me where and/or how it is installed.

I haven't the faintest idea who or what Robin Miller is.

I used to have a turfer but I find the installed winch is so much easier. Especially as my muscles are suffering from this problem I have. I never had to use it from the rear. So we went for the bullbar mounted one. Lets just hope I never have to winch to the rear.

I understand that this bullbar would never suit the bush for many reasons. In fact I think you would have trouble even on a couple of the cattle grids we have been over recently (Easter) on the back roads to the east of the Flinders. And they were on graded (supposedly!!!) roads.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 16:15

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 16:15
Hi Kev

I figured out who Robin was. There is a great big piece of bar work right where you suggested. Looks like a major bit also.

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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Monday, May 30, 2011 at 18:46

Monday, May 30, 2011 at 18:46
Have seen a Tuff Bar cut and set up for a winch using plasma rope, and it didn't look like a major job.

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