Running gas fridge when driving
Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:36
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John S12
I read with amazement the misinformation provided on this subject.
The facts are :-
It is not illegal to drive with a gas fridge running in a caravan so long as it is correctly installed.
All gas appliances must be turned off when refuelling the towing vehicle.
This
information was supplied by the Gas Inspectors Office and is current from July 2011.
I have run my fridge on gas for over 25 years because 12v is hopeless . Gas always turned off when refuelling.
It is the misinformation and scare tactics used by so called "experts" who only guess at answers or repeat what some "know nothing " has told them that causes confusion .
Get correct answers from the right source before opening your mouth.
Remember Conficius said "It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm the fact."
Reply By: snoopyone - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 13:27
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 13:27
Perhaps you could convince the guy on the
Eighty mile beach road who lost the van and nearly the car because of a gas leak.
He hadnt turned the bottles off and lost the lot.
Also the guy at Banka Banka who sat a portable gas fridge on the ground near his trailer and then opened a Jerry can of petrol.
Lost trailer and Car and both him and wife were burnt enough to end up in hospital.
All towing guides recommend turning gas bottles OFF before travelling.
Just because YOU have got away with it for so long neither makes it right or sensible.
The law is not always correct either as to what SHOULD happen.
Common sense, that rarely used commodity comes to mind here.
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 15:08
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 15:08
hi johns12
could you possibly tell us
which gas inspectors office from july 2011 has issued you with this imfo
and from which state are you refering to as some of us- would - like to know
it would be fitting for you to submit that
as it appears you have already been torn to threads for your comment which i might add is quiet normal on this site
you opened the topic so please submit the finer detail to back up the thread
cheers
barry
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Follow Up By: John S12 - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:32
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:32
Hi Barry,
I have been got at by experts so it is amusing to hear the amateurs make fools of themselves.
My source was the Qld GOV CSG &LNG Gas HOTLINE 132523 . I asked for a ruling on " operating a fridge on gas whilst driving" and was put through to the office where the regulations are drafted. I was advised that the latest rulings will be released on 1 July 2011 and my
information was sourced from there. Another phone number which I have since found but not yet used is 07-32371626 listed as the Gas Inspectorate .
There is also a website www.dme.qld.gov.au and go to the section "Caravans and Gas Safety" a sub heading " Safety
Check List" and go to the last para which reads "
Check that all appliances are turned off when the towing vehicle is being refuelled".
When I read some of the examples quoted in replies it reminds me of who also said " You will never educate an idiot"
We are taking off for a month at the end of the week so it will be interesting to go through the emails when we return.
have a good one
John
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Follow Up By: Member - John B2 (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 18:33
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 18:33
Qld GOV CSG &LNG Gas HOTLINE 132523
Coal Seam Gas and Liquefied natural gas?
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Follow Up By: Rob! - Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:08
Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:08
I just called that number and was told that it is the "Department of Employment, Economic Development and Innovation"
and their websites proves this
www.deedi.qld.gov.au
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:04
Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:04
HI
John
So you are quoting a supposed reg that is not yet in force
Perhaps, when you can post a direct link to that reg, we will see how correct your interpretation is
!!!
YES ,I agree"When I read some of the examples quoted in replies it reminds me of who also said " You will never educate an idiot"
Peter
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Follow Up By: Member - George J (WA) - Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:56
Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 14:56
gawd ,,,,,,,,,, i never ever thought that any one travels with a gas flame burning away .............. hearing is believing i guess
good luck for any one that dose that because they will need it !
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 16:05
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 16:05
So you pull into the service station with your gas fridge running and then turn off the gas , refuel the vehicle , turn your gas back on , go into the van to relight the fridge and then travel on you merry way , ,,,,,, been doing it for 25 years he says ,never a problem , oops ,why is everyone wearing white gowns and have wings comming out off their backs and is that harp music I can hear,,
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:14
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 20:14
I guess you also must wait at the driveway entrance till any other fuel purchasers have hung up their nozzles, or don't they matter? Bob
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:42
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:42
I read with amazement the misinformation provided on this subject.
The facts are :-
It is not illegal to drive with a gas fridge running in a caravan so long as it is correctly installed.
All gas appliances must be turned off when refuelling the towing vehicle.
This
information was supplied by the Gas Inspectors Office and is current from July 2011.
I have run my fridge on gas for over 25 years because 12v is hopeless . Gas always turned off when refuelling.
It is the misinformation and scare tactics used by so called "experts" who only guess at answers or repeat what some "know nothing " has told them that causes confusion .
Get correct answers from the right source before opening your mouth.
Remember Conficius said "It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm the fact."
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Follow Up By: Member - DAZA (QLD) - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 19:16
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 19:16
We run our fridge from the Anderson Plug while travelling, never had a problem.
When your 12 volt system is installed properly re- linked to the vehicles aux battery and solar.
Plus the fact the fridge automaticly cuts over when the 240volt system is switched off.
I for one would hate to make an insurance claim after an accident where the van ect was destroyed by a gas explosion or fire because I failed my Duty Of Care while the van was in transit with a lighted flame in an enclosed van.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:49
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 17:49
To establish my fallibility (safer in these circumstances I think) I demonstrated a non-response reply above.... this time my comments may appear - and I'll remember to preview in future :-o).........
I read with amazement the misinformation provided on this subject.
"Read where ?"
The facts are :-
It is not illegal to drive with a gas fridge running in a caravan so long as it is correctly installed.
"What is correct installation ?"
All gas appliances must be turned off when refuelling the towing vehicle.
"Those already off don't need to be turned off - and not everyone has your faultless ability to remember the gas flame on every occasion".
This information was supplied by the Gas Inspectors Office and is current from July 2011.
"Which Gas Inspectors Office ?"
I have run my fridge on gas for over 25 years because 12v is hopeless . Gas always turned off when refuelling.
"Your 12V circuit may be hopeless"
It is the misinformation and scare tactics used by so called "experts" who only guess at answers or repeat what some "know nothing " has told them that causes confusion .
"I'm sure we all aspire to a greatness such as yours"
Get correct answers from the right source before opening your mouth.
"Ok - but please understand if I don't quote you"
Remember Conficius said "It is better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and confirm the fact."
"Can't recall Conficius's work - does he publish in Australia ?"
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 23:36
Wednesday, Jun 29, 2011 at 23:36
The trouble is some people will believe it.
The facts:
Elgas LPG SafetyInstallations in caravans, recreational vehicles and boats must comply with the installation code applicable to fixed appliances. Cylinder compartments must be sealed from the interior of vehicles/boats and vented to the outside. Cylinder valves must be closed when a caravan is in transit. Never use any gas appliance, including a refrigerator, in a moving vehicle.
LPG Australia Safety Rules
Cylinder valves must be closed when a caravan is in transit. Never use any gas appliance, including a refrigerator, in a moving vehicle. Turn off every LPG appliance in caravans and boats before petrol refuelling.
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Reply By: snoopyone - Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 19:10
Thursday, Jun 30, 2011 at 19:10
Go on leave him alone
By the time he gets
home his email box will be overflowing
The only thing I think he should read and understand is his last sentence about Confucius.
Self application would have prevented the waste of a thread like this.
As someone has said on here you can argue with an idiot but he will eventually drag you down to his level of stupidity.
Not quite what was quoted but will do in this instance.
By the way this is the correct spelling of CONFUCIUS
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