Bridgestone 694's wandering

Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 13:51
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Hi,

I have just had a set of bridgestone 694 LT in the 265/75/16 size fitted to the 80 series cruiser and have noticed that they tend to follow the ridges on our country roads (not yet had on the good freeways), has anyone come across this problem and will they get better as they wear in a little. All the reviews read that they are a good tyre so I am hoping these will improve.

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Trev6

BTW it also had a wheel alignment at tyre fitting
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Reply By: TTD1 - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:23

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:23
Trev6
I have just fitted the same tyres to my prado (17") and have done 3000k on them including a quick trip to Lake Eyre via White Cliffs (28psi on the dirt) 35psi on the tar and am rapped with their handling. One complaint or perhaps the LT design is they tend to be noisy on short trips in the cold. Always had this trouble when I left the trucks loaded over night with a flat spot till they warmed up.
Also a little noisier than the originals but I can live with that for the more aggressive pattern.
Regards,
TTD1
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:40

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:40
Hi Trev

We have had them in both the normal and LT construction for a long time and they are a great tyre. Very quite on the road and have had no problems with them wanting to wander what so ever. Even though you have had a wheel alignment, I have found in the past there are some people that can not get it right and that could be the issue.

I hope you get it sorted out.


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Reply By: Andrew & Jen - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:44

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 14:44
Hullo Trevor
Good tyre (except in mud)
No problems with them on our 80series
Cheers
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 18:31

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 18:31
G'day there Doc.

Great to see you are around the place.

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Reply By: gelatr- Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 18:37

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 18:37
Hi Trev,

I’ve just had 694 LTs fitted on my Triton before a recent trip from Brissy to Perth and return. Compared to the original Bridgestone HTs there is a minor tendency to railroad on poorer country roads where there are visible grooves but nothing too dramatic or concerning. Don't know whether I've got use to them or they have worn in but I didn't notice the railroading tendency as much on my return from Perth. In fact it was your post that jolted my memory that they seemed a bit stiff when first fitted.

Geoff
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Reply By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 19:43

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 19:43
So many people get sold a wheel alignment on an 80/105 series Landcruiser from a tyre shop, and all that is going to be looked and adjusted is the toe-in, and that part of the solid front axle is very solid anyway.

It can happen that the machine they use is not calibrated and they mis-adjust your toe-in mate.

I would be inclined to see what they say they did to your wheel alignment..(toe-in), was it out and did they toe it out a smidge, which can give you the road camber wandering you are mentioning now.
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Follow Up By: Trev6 - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:20

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:20
The bloke at the tyre shop says that they will check the alignment again, so happens that I am going his way tomorow. He also advised playing with tyre pressure's, it was at 40psi when I got it home from the tyre fitting (60km drive).
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Reply By: Dough Boy - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:29

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:29
Hi Trev6
I have 694s fitted to my Navara and also run 673MTs and havent had that issue, it may be more about suspension & allingnment causing your problem than the tyre itself, did the tyre fitter do a wheeel allignment when you had the tyres fitted ?
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Follow Up By: Trev6 - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:42

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:42
yes it was aligned at tyre fitting, it was steering well prior to the fitting and alignment, it will be interesting tomorow when the check it again to see what happens. Hope they can fit me in with short notice
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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:30

Wednesday, Jul 06, 2011 at 20:30
Hi Trev. As has been said. Your front end is solid but it still can have camber/caster angles incorrect. If you are around Sydney way Narrellen truck align make offset swivel pins to suit cruisers. You need to have an aligner set it up and measure the inaccuracy (if it has it) It could be 1/2, 1 or 1.1/2 degree out. You then order the appropriate offset pin and instal and set up the toe in to suit. Cheers,Bob

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Reply By: Member - Robert R1 (SA) - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 17:26

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 17:26
Trev6,

I had handling problems when I first had the 694 LTs fitted. The handling was really twitchy. They tyre place dropped the pressures a bit (30 psi front 40 psi rear - I have a canopy on the back) and adjusted the front suspension. The torsion bars had been wound up too much. It handles excellently now.



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Reply By: Trev6 - Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:45

Thursday, Jul 07, 2011 at 19:45
It seems like we had a win today, I droped the tyre pressure to 30 psi which stopped the wanders and the tyre place checked the alignment which helped with it wanting to pull to the left. He said it was only out 1mm , what ever he done it made a lot of difference, so it's now back to it's old self again only this time with a new set of shoes on.
I might play with the tyre pressures later on after a bit of running in time and see what happens

Trev6
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Reply By: Member - Andrew L (QLD) - Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 07:00

Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 07:00
30 psi..??.. on the blacktop..??.. to low in my opinion.

If it was a standard tyre shop, they would not be doing any wheel alignment alteration that would assist pulling left, all they do is the toe- in check on a solid front axle 4wd.

More likely they swapped your front tyres side to side which has eliminated the left pull, and murmered crap about adjusting the wheel alignment 1 mm... adjusted what..??.. toe-in is their only option, and 1mm isn't going to produce the result you feel you got.

If you want a true wheel alignment and axle correction on a solid front axle 4wd, go to a Wheel Alignment specialist that does all vehicles, including trucks, they have the knowledge, expertise and tools/equipment to do it correctly and properly.

The tyre shop drive on drive off so called wheel alignments are often just a tick and flick, with possibly a minor toe-in correction...and they often charge you a premium because it's a 4WD.

If your old tyres have worn near perfectly, then putting new tyres on does NOT alter your wheel alignment.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bill B1 (NSW) - Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 21:25

Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 21:25
I have 694's on my Prado (120 series) and have done 40,000 kms on my trip around Oz so far. I run 40 psi all round and they are wearing flat and running true so far.
They handle all terrains very well.
A quick squiz around the CP shows well over half of the vehicles here in Richmond are running 694's too.
Must have something going for them.

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Reply By: ross - Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 22:07

Friday, Jul 08, 2011 at 22:07
Ive got 30000klms and 2 years on my D694 235/85/16 and they are perfect.
I have them fitted to my HZJ75 ute and whether its fully loaded or empty,it drives (well Ill say it again)perfect.

The only way they have changed over time is when new they had a slight jelly rubber feel that mostly went away after a few months
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