Cask wine in the Territory

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 09:23
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Just a follow up on banning 4lt wine casks in the NT. You can now only buy 1 x 2ltr cask per person per day at any liquor outlet and they will scan your drivers licence. But no restrictions on any thing else.
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Reply By: Member -Grundle (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:13

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:13
It,s amazing that i can buy a carton of bottled wine though. Will have to build a exstenion on the back of the trailor LOL.

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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:24

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 13:24
Thanks Rick for the update,


I dont agree with someone else problem with al cee hol gambling or any other vice causing grieve to someone else.

A better way would be to ban certain people from buying alcohol and making it hard for someone else to buy it by having the harshest sentence in living history if they did.

I dont have an issue the drinking but it can cause tremendous problems if I was trying to "stock up" for an extended isolated desert camping trip.

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Follow Up By: Dawg13 - Monday, Aug 01, 2011 at 15:57

Monday, Aug 01, 2011 at 15:57
I agree Wilko but apparently if you do that then it is discrimination as we all know what 'colour' the majority of people that will be banned are and no govt wants to go down that path.....
therefore we all suffer and believe me it is unbearable when you actually live in the top end !!!!!
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Reply By: Puma1 - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 15:35

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 15:35
What's that you say NO DAPTO HANDBAGS in the NT!!!

Seriously have the people that drink a Dapto Handbag a day still got a drivers licence?? I feel so sorry for them because how the hell are they going to be able to buy a 2lt cask with out one??
Jeez they will be sniffin petrol next who would have guessed!!
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Reply By: Chris & Sue (Briz Vegas) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 16:22

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 16:22
Hi Rick (and others),

I was in Woolies' Liquor in Katherine about a fortnight ago and there was a big notice above the 2lt casks that when the existing stock was gone there would be NO MORE CASKS of any size on sale in their store.

On a slightly different topic, I object to anyone (especially liquor store employees) scanning my drivers' licence. It has my home address on it and very neatly advises anyone with access to that database that I'm away from home. Sighting it is OK - proves that I'm over 60 when I only look 17... :-))

Strikes me as a kneejerk/bandaid solution to avery big problem.

"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."

Cheers,
Chris
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 16:42

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 16:42
This must be one of the silliest rules ever.
When we were in th NT we simply went to all the outlets and each purchased a cask.
We finished up with enough for our needs for an extended trip.
So those that abuse the drink can do the same.

Why not ban those that drink and play up?

I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 17:52

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 17:52
Absolute rubbish aint it, ... but what can we do??
Funny thing is something i saw the other day, all of this stuff comes mostly from idiots based in Canberra and who dont have a clue, ... a big sign outside of Yuendamu, PORN has been banned here, if you want PORN go to Canberra, it is LEGAL as it is the PORN capital of Australia .....

Lesson, stock up BULK before leaving home, empty the water tank on the camper and get it filled with wine, the little sink in it would be what dreams are made of..
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Reply By: Hairy (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 19:26

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 19:26
Gday,
I asume your talking about Darwin?
Youve had those restrictions and a lot more in Alice and Tennant for years.

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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 20:17

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 20:17
Well I believe that anyone who buys a cask of wine of any size has serious drink related issues anyway:-)

Seriously, I have witnessed the midday queues at the liquor outlets in the Alice and Katherine waiting for the doors to open and the problems resulting from subsequent consumption by mid afternoon.

I have also noticed the (necessary) lists pasted on the fridge doors in the pub at Daly River (owned by the local community but run by white folk) whereby certain individuals are restricted to a couple of light beers, or banned from buying grog altogether for a period of time, after returning to the community tanked and causing serious problems.

Unfortunately, the misuse of alcohol by a minor group in our communities result in silly rules that have to be applied to all, so as not seen to be prejudiced or racist.

We just transport our meager supply of alcohol for our own consumption, whenever we travel and wherever we go and to hell with any stupid regulations prohibiting us from doing so, when travelling from point A to point C but having to pass through point B and its restrictions.
We are responsible travellers and like a glass or two when camped for the night.
We don't make loud noises or otherwise annoy other campers, but unfortunately experience our share of antisocial behaviour, usually fuelled by irresponsible over consumption of alcohol by a few ferals.

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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:04

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:04
Buying wine in a cask saves weight and mostly has nothing to do with the rate of consumption.
A rather not well thought out comment.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 18:24

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 18:24
Well Snoopy,

My reason has nothing to do with weight or rate of consumption, but the quality of the wine. Carrying our stock in bottles is no issue whatsoever and we can select a range of Shiraz, Cabernet Sauvignon, Melot, etc. to provide a variety of beverages.
And we take the empty bottles with us to dispose of in an appropriate way.

So your reply was not a well thought out comment.



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Follow Up By: snoopyone - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 19:16

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 19:16
anyone who buys a cask of wine of any size has serious drink related issues anyway:-)

is what you said and reflects badly on those who buy it for reasons other than consumption.

If you buy the right brands the quality is quite good as well

My wife likes all of the types you do and is quite happy with it.

Still buys casks and we are living at home now.

Not everyone is a wine snob.

So don't categorise everyone as boozers because we prefer casks thank you.

If thats what you meant by drink issues
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Reply By: Member - TJ (VIC) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 20:47

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 20:47
I was wrapped with the lack of alcoholism I saw on a 3 month trip last year. The stricter grog laws in some of the places mentioned above have made huge improvements to peoples health regardless of their color.

Alice Springs compared to 10 years ago seemed like a different town. My wife drinks cask wine so we both bought a cask each on two seperate days and she was stocked up. Big deal.

We went to a footy match in Fitzroy Crossing and I was impressed by the family atmosphere. The crowd was better behaved than most of the crowds I see when I go to the footy in Melbourne or locally.

I like a drink but for the sake of all Aussies we need to be making sure that alcohol is difficult to get in large amounts to protect the most addicted members of our communities.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (WA) - Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 21:44

Thursday, Jul 28, 2011 at 21:44
Gday,
"Alice Springs compared to 10 years ago seemed like a different town. "

Im assuming you mean how bad Alice is now compared to 10 years ago? And how Alcohol restrictions have done absolutely nothing except cause a heap of break ins?
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:09

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 09:09
Just watch and see , broken glass will soon replace the silver pillows and big buisness will complain about the dropoff in tourist dollars , its really no wonder that a large proportion of the world thinks of Australia as a backward country when we impose a selective prohibition , the people who have a drinking problem will simply find another form /way to get what they want or move to a less restrictive area , , typical dogooder services ,punish the lot for the sake of a few.
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Reply By: Fatso - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:10

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:10
I'll tell you all a sad thing. "I DON"T HAVE A CLUE OF HOW TO FIX THIS"
Now I will tell you all the saddest thing" NEITHER DO THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE RULES & REGULATIONS" & they are being paid salaries most of you could not ever imagine to earn & they are stuffing a race of people right up for now & for generations to come. That bit I do know.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:37

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:37
Fatso , I don't know either , but one thing I do know is that selective prohibition does not fix the problem , all that we seem to do is create a them and us society whereas we claim to be " One Australia ".
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 20:51

Friday, Jul 29, 2011 at 20:51
Which race of people are they "stuffing up" by banning the sale of 4 litre casks?
BTW, by commercial management standards our politicians are grossly under paid, maybe if we paid more we would get better candidates.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 08:28

Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 08:28
By commercial management standards pollies are grossly underpaid ? What a load of hogwash , perhaps if commercial management were NOT paid the obcene salaries that some demand our pollies voice would actually carry some weight ,
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:43

Saturday, Jul 30, 2011 at 09:43
The fact of life is they ARE paid it!
So what part of it is hogwash?

I will repeat it slowly so that you can understand it .....

By commercial management standards our politicians are grossly under paid, maybe if we paid more we would get better candidates.

Sorry, but that is the way it is, maybe if we had put our heads down longer at school we may have been able to command similar obscene salaries!
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:26

Sunday, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:26
Shaker , so the commercial " standard " of $11million to the CEO of Telstra , the $16million to Westpac ect should be paid to pollies , yeah gready overpaid rippoff merchants who get paid obcene amounts even while the rest of the country goes down the tubes , "Longer at school " ? you cant get much better than a RHODES scholar ,aka ,Menzies -Hawke.
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