Fire Bans in the Simpson Desert

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:35
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I couldn't see anything using the search tool and I've been away for a couple of months and it may have been covered then.

I heard last night that the Witjira Co-management board are trying to have all fires banned within the Simpson Desert and that will include people carrying firewood into the area from outside.

They are trying to manage the dwindling supply of dead timber in the park which is used as habitat for many of the animals.
4WD South Australia have sent in a response which I shall try to attach here.

Has this issue been raised on EO previously? If so sorry for the double up.

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Reply By: Member - Des Lexic - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:38

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:38
Bugger the link didn't work.

Here is the letter

14 September 2011
District Ranger – Desert Parks
Department of Environment and Natural Resources
9 Mackay St
Po Box 78
Port Augusta SA 5700
Dear Tony,
Re: Wood Fires in Witjira National Park
On behalf of 4WDSA, I would like to provide some feedback to your letter dated 3 August 2011.
As with many issues in society, the Association recognises that the irresponsible actions of a few
can have a lasting adverse impact on the vast majority and the 3 O’clock Creek example cited in
your letter is a clear abuse of the use of a scarce natural resource.
The Association actively supports the responsible use of all natural resources and the use of wood
fires for the purposes of heating and cooking in an area where, perhaps, the general public is lacking
in education and understanding.
Whilst the Association sympathises with the problem currently faced by the Witjira Comanagement
Board in their efforts to manage a dwindling resource, the Association does not
support the long term banning of wood fires in Witjira National Park. However, a ban on the use of
locally sourced timber is fully supported by the Association. The Association is of the view that a
blanket ban on the carriage of firewood through the park is excessive and will have a significant,
and potentially adverse, impact on activities beyond Witjira.
Why do we need / want camp fires?
Fire is one of the basic essentials for our survival on this planet. Whether it be for warmth, cooking,
light, or a sense of security, humans need fire. There are very few, if any, environments on the Earth
where humans can survive (over the long term) without it.
The campfire has become an Australian icon for those who choose to travel our great Outback and
of course, is used primarily for warmth in the cool of the evening and cooking at both ends of the
day. While there may be alternate fuels for cooking, the wood fire provides an efficient source of
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heat in a communal setting. For many travellers, both from Australia and overseas, fellowship to be
had at the end of a day on the road is part of the attraction for outback travel.
A blanket ban on all fires could well act as a deterrent for many travellers as they seek alternative
options for combining recreation and camaraderie. While the current policy is not a blanket ban for
all areas, the prohibition of carriage of wood through Witjira will have a similar effect for those that
plan to travel into the Simpson Desert Regional Reserve or the Hay River Track.
Sourcing fuel for cooking and warmth
The Association acknowledges that an increase in the number of people travelling some of the most
popular routes has had an impact on the availability of suitable wood in the immediate vicinity of
the roads and tracks and agrees that we need to find alternative sources. Clearly, the use of
plantation sourced wood is the sustainable option and we need to find a way to make this a practical
choice. A further alternative is the use of “ECO Logs” or similar products. Certainly the logistics
of getting sufficient quantities to the right areas might be a challenge – but is this a challenge worth
pursuing?
The ban on collecting wood in the Witjira National Park is fully supported and it is recognised that
it could be difficult to determine the source of wood in transit. However, bans on the collection of
wood are in place in other Parks where there is an inherent onus on any person carrying wood to
reasonably show from where this came and this appears to operate satisfactorily. We believe that
this onus could be publicised and explicitly required. For example it would be difficult to source
mallee stumps or sawn red gum within the park and most imported wood for transportation would
be controlled by availability of space in the vehicle.
Bio hazards associated with carrying firewood through Witjira
While we understand that wood sourced from outside of Witjira may contain pests and diseases we
challenge the inherent risk to biodiversity on the grounds that there would be minimal possibility of
contact between wood in transit and the native species in the park if it remains in transit, and any
such wood if sourced close to the park is likely to have similar pests and diseases to those already in
the park and pests and diseases on wood from further away are less likely to be ecologically capable
of surviving the desert environment. If research findings have highlighted any specific risks these
should be specifically addressed rather than by a blanket ban.
Education
In recognising that the use of campfires is appropriate in the right circumstances we, jointly, need to
find a way to ensure responsible use by all. While legislation and policing is one way to ensure
compliance to an agreed set of standards, unless the penalties are severe and draconian they may
provide little incentive for compliance.
Most four wheel drive clubs within the Association operate within a set of by laws supporting their
Constitution that clearly define things such as fire use, control and various restrictions that apply –
including wood collection.
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The most cost effective method of “control” is through education with the key focal points being:
? Source of fuel, and
? Using that fuel responsibly:
o Keep size of fire a small as practical (and no larger than 1m in diameter)
o Ensure that fire only used when required
? Bio Hazards of carrying wood through sensitive environmental areas
? Fire ban periods
Clearly, this “education” will require a large publicity effort but no more than that effort associated
with the proposed bans. Although the Association does not represent all of the travelling public, we
would be more than willing to assist with promotion and would actively support activities such as
working bees for signage erection. We may also be in a position to modestly fund some signage
within Park.
Problems with Policing
How will the eventual agreed regulations be policed? Clearly, the policing of rules, even a blanket
ban can difficult to implement and police. The current proposal is a ban on one part of the greater
area colloquially known as “The Simpson”. However, the intent of the current proposal is to
specifically target The Witjira National Park. Are all travellers aware of the boundary between the
two named areas? Probably not! Again the resolution comes back to education, appropriate
publicity and ultimately active policing.
As suggested earlier, the possession of species that clearly could not have come from the vicinity of
Witjira should not constitute an offence. However, the distinction between the source of a,
potentially, “local” species is not so clear. The Association would welcome the opportunity to
discuss options and strategies that will provide clear guidelines and unambiguous direction to those
responsible for ensuring compliance.
Conclusions and recommendations
The Association acknowledges that the Witjira Co-management Board has identified a significant
issue and is looking for ways to deal with both the real and potential problems associated with
sustainable management of the Witjira resources and environment. However, the Association does
not support a blanket ban on the use of fire in Witjira. Furthermore, the Association does not
support the ban on the carriage of wood through the park and submits that the risks associated with
such a practice are minimal.
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In response to the proposals in your letter, the 4WDSA Association recommends the following:
1. Fires fuelled by locally source timber be banned in Witjira; however, cooking fires and
fires used for warmth continue to be allowed within the national park using sustainably
sourced fuel,
2. Collection of firewood from within the Witjira National Park be permanently banned,
3. Carriage of firewood through Witjira be permitted, and
4. An extensive education and publicity program be conducted on the responsible use of
fires for cooking and warmth.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:24

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:24
Interesting Reading Des.

The idea of SA 4wd promoting education and bringing your own wood has some merit but I do not agree that it should at the expense of getting wood locally and having a 1 meter size type fire.

I see this move as an unnecessary followon to the summer vehicle traffic ban and that of not sailing on Lake Eyre.

These are all essentially impositions onto the public which have better solutions that work with people and not against them.

Recently the area has seen a huge growth in bio mass and this is expected to continue for some time - a small portion of this total has then been lost to natural fires.

There are specific problem areas which as a general statement have been caused by "over grazing" largely but not entirely caused by park management
confining people to smaller specific areas.

The Simpson has long needed the public to be spread over more tracks combined with a bigger effort to keep tracks like the Warbuton crossing open longer.
These measures would both lessen any local impact and provide a tourist boost for an area that is becoming tired.








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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexic - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:33

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 16:33
Thanks for your thoughtfull response Robin and as usual, you are pretty well on the button.
I only became aware of the proposal last night at out local 4WD Club meeting and submitted it on here as information.
FYI it was an article in the SA Nissan Patrol Club newsletter.

With a lot of the fires burning recently around the Northern Territory, many are deliberately lit and it does make me wonder if the locals are trying to drive away the tourists from these areas. I don't think the majority would think like that, however there are a few who would like to keep us out of these areas.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 18:27

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 18:27
Gday Robin,
Just because there's a heap more grass at the moment doesn't mean that people should burn the trees. Trees take many years to regenerate in the Simpson. Over the last 30 years I've seen the commonly camped areas become increasingly denuded - same problem around Innamincka.

I agree with the 4wdSA suggestions - harvesting wood in Witjira should be banned, but carrying in wood should be OK. I avoid the common areas anyway - never camp at Dalhousie or Purnie - too much riff-raff but like to have a dip in the middle of the day.

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 19:19

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 19:19
Banning calls get air-time because specific bad spots are used as examples and then the impression is created that the bad spot is representative of the entire park.

I state that there is no study that will show 4wders campfires use 1% of the Wood in the park Phil.

I challenge anyone to prove this wrong , if the call to ban was genuine then this should be easy.


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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:18

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:18
"I state that there is no study that will show 4wders campfires use 1% of the Wood in the park Phil."

Who's saying that???? I think you've missed the point. Its nothing to do with the volume of wood in the park. Its more about preventing ecologically important areas such as Dalhousie Springs from turning into dustbowls.

The bans only apply only to Witjira - not the rest of the Simpson Desert as you seem to imply.

The argument against bringing in your own wood is that it introduces weeds and other pests. It would be a pity to see the Simpson Desert taken over by Buffel grass like much of the Cooper Basin. I expect that is why 4wdSA makes mention of Ecologs and the like being an option. I personally find Ecologs useless!

There are 3 other desert parks that have a "no wood fire policy" - Wabma Kadarbu Mound Springs Conservation Park, Lake Eyre National Park and Coongie Lakes National Park. They are all areas where wood is slow to regenerate and is scarce - so I guess Witjira falls into that category because of the volume of tourist traffic it gets these days all wanting a campfire.

I think the bans are unfortunate but necessary. I travel many times each year to SA desert parks and I do volunteer work which helps to keep these areas open. We have a fire every night - we cook exclusively on the fire and think it makes camping real. As I said, our solution for some years has been to not camp at Dalhousie or Purnie - we camp outside the park and just pass through.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:35

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:35
That is the point Phil - if you can't show that 1% even of the wood is used then its a little hard to turn it into a dustbowl.

P.S. The start of the original post above refers directly to banning in the Simpson , not my reply.

For others reading this Witjira is a huge area of about 100km X 100km from Blood creek ruins to past Purni bore - and this is the area I refer to.
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Follow Up By: muffin man - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 15:40

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 15:40
No problems here with wood fires being banned in Witjira and wood should not be brought in due to the very intelligent response by Phil G.
I reckon anyone with any weight behind them wouldn't even bother reading that response by the 4x4 clubs. In fact some clubs are part of the problem due to them often congregating in large numbers and having massive fires.
Muffin Man
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Follow Up By: bordertrek - Friday, Oct 14, 2011 at 21:15

Friday, Oct 14, 2011 at 21:15
No Des Lexic, the locals are not lighting fires to keep tourists away lol.
I was up there a couple of weeks ago in the Simpson Desert Bike Challenge. The NT border fires that blew into the Simpson were started by lightning. More fires started during the night of the 27th in the Hamilton Station and Mt Sarah area from another lightning storm.
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Reply By: lindsay - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 20:23

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 20:23
It's all about controlling our lives, socialists and greens don't want us out there. Glad I did all those things in the 70's and 80's.
See ya!
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Reply By: Ozrover - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:34

Wednesday, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:34
The fire bans & the banning of bringing firewood into Witjira National park does not affect the Simpson Desert National Park or Regional Reserves.

This has been brought about by the usual mindless minority who just has to have a ridiculously large fire to heat up their tin of baked beans!

As per usual government agencies go for the ban hammer to fix the problem!

It will be interesting to see how this is implemented!

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Follow Up By: Member - Blaze - Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:58

Thursday, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:58
Gday Jeff,

Was great to catch up.

Couldn't agree more with you about the Government Agencies and the Ban Hammer to try and fix a problem, as we discussed their have been fires all around at the moment, from Sandy Blight and out near Kintore and down the Andado Track, Old South Road to Finke and of course out in the Desert. I would hate to try and guess how few off these have been started by 4WD travellers, I would have at a guess it would be in the .02% range.

It sure will be good to see who is going to police these issues also :-)



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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:56

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:56
Morning Jeff and everyone -

Not only will it be interesting to see if this ban comes in (be like the trailers as well I should imagine) but more than interesting to see who polices the ban - maybe whilst the 'policing people' are out there they could clean up the rubbish left by those incredibly thoughtless people.

The most amazing conversation I had with any Head of Department was to be told that it is not a Ranger's job to pick up rubbish in the Simpson Desert - even if they drive past 3 black bags of rubbish on the track. (I'm not often left speechless - but that took me a while to get going again).

Thank goodness for the Friends of the Simpson!

Ruth
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Follow Up By: Member - Blaze - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:51

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:51
Hi Ruth,

Yes and maybe they could check if vehicles were fitted with Sand Flags and Radios (on the right ch) also, but of course they would be to busy marking down how many small camp fires they had come across to do either of these things.

I am glad you actually mentioned about Rangers Jobs etc. I know this is a bit off topic so I will direct you to ThreadID: 89591.

Hopefully we can find a small window when we are allowed out in the Simpson next year so we can do Madigans without a closure being in place, under todays red tape, Edmund Colson and Cecil Madigan would be still waiting for permits and approval to do the crossing. :-)



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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:57

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 08:57
DL
You been camping or working?
GG
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Follow Up By: Member - Des Lexic - Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:19

Monday, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:19
Hi GG,

Back at work now. Had a great 8 weeks off. Went to your old home town then up the Hay River to Jervois, the Alice then on the Gary Junction Highway to well 33, up the Kidson Track to 80 mile beach, Broome, the Kimberly, kunnunurra, Katherine, back to the Alice and home via the Oodnadatta Track.
Only 1 flat tyre between 3 vehicles.
Hope theworld is being kind to you.

DL
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Reply By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:24

Sunday, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:24
I was looking up some Queensland national parks on the DERM web site last night and forum advice similar to the following on a number of them: "Bring your own untreated, clean mill off-cuts for firewood, or preferably bring a fuel or gas stove for cooking". It is my recollection that the advice used to be to collect firewood before entering the NP.
Could be a national change coming on of which we are observing the start.
Kevin
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