"smart phone" -dumb user-I'm almost afraid to ask

Submitted: Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 23:11
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Hi all. So we went out and got a 'smart phone' to replace the old handset and hopefully use as a gps for some geocashing. I'm not sure what is the best "app" to use but was going to have a go at the one from 'groundspeak'. My question is- how do I pay for the App? Does it get charged to the mobile phone bill or will it ask for my credit card details? Also- do I have to buy a mapping system to go on the phone as well or does it just use google maps?The learning curve has been very steep with this phone and at times I feel like a dinosour when having to ask the kids how to do simple things on it(like answer a phone call !!!) Just another of lifes challenges. Thanks for any help you can give. doc ( I saw someone using their smart phone for geocashing when camped at Dwellingup recently. It looked like a great system having internet access for the geocashes and using the phone to locate them).
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Reply By: wizzer73 - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 23:33

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 23:33
2 gps programs that are free are called GPS status and My Tracks. Gps status is a basic one that gives you lat and long and a few other basics. My Tracks lets you see where u are on a map (sat view if you want) and records your track which you can put on a google map.
I have these on my android smart phone. As i said, they are free so just download them and play around with them. Dont like them, then just delete them.
One nice little feature in both programs is that you can email from your phone your lat and long position in a web link. the person you emailed just clicks on the link and up pops a map of your location. Only when you are in mob range that is.

cheers
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Follow Up By: wizzer73 - Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 23:40

Friday, Oct 21, 2011 at 23:40
Another good free app is google sky map. great for camping at night. shows all the stars and constellations.

have a read
gps status
my tracks
google sky map

cheers
wizzer
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Reply By: mikehzz - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 06:36

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 06:36
You create an account when you log into the app store. You enter you credit card details and they are kept on file. When you purchase an app there will be a record on the credit card statement.
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Follow Up By: Saint Kev - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:18

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:18
If you happen to own an Iphone and want to buy apps, better off buying the 2x$20 itunes cards when there onsale. BigW & Coles have 2x$20 for $30 this week.
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Reply By: timglobal - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:37

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:37
What phone?

Presuming iPhone (not sure precisely about Android which I'm sure others will help for) it has Google Maps (as do most Smartphones) and a built in GPS which any app you buy can access.

For geo caching, Geocaching Inc make their down App. You can get a limited but functional free version or an inexpensive paid version.

For free mapping that includes other maps than Google the GPS X is excellent in both its free and paid versions. It allows you to save track data and has Bing and other excellent free maps, inc topo. It allows you to download these free maps for mapping out of signal range (Phone signal is usually required to download map tiles on the go)

For the deluxe, VMS from MudMap is pricey, but excellent. Its $200 but has full 3d turn by turn nav, as well as numerous hema and topo maps included as well as the option to buy down to 1:25000 maps. Works great on iPad, too.

Even the built-in phone maps will allow you to find grid references with varying ease and map to them.

Purchasing varies by platform, but is usually paid by credit card entered into the store for all your purchases. Then you just click and pay when you want one (or not pay, if it's a free app!)

Ask away - it's what the forum is for!

Cheers, T
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Follow Up By: timglobal - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:38

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 07:38
down = own - oops.
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Reply By: oz doc - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 08:37

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 08:37
THanks guys. The phone is a Samsung Galaxy S2- so android not apple. Sounds like I might have to stick with the free apps as I'm not comfortable with putting my credit card details on there(I don't make internet purchases either). Anyway- I will have look at the ones you mentioned and have a bit of a play around if I get time this weekend and go from there.Ta, doc.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 08:52

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 08:52
Doc,

Get with the times mate!
The best way of handling internet purchases is to open a debit card account.
Similar to a credit card, but you need to transfer cash into the account before buying an item online.
No balance in the account equals no transaction possible so even if some a#$ehole obtains your details, they can't use it.

Bill


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Follow Up By: oz doc - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:04

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 10:04
Hi Bill- debit cards -I've heard about them- done at the bank I suppose? Yes I am going to have to face up to "getting with the times". The kids are rolling their eyes everytime I look like asking them another 'how do I ' question.doc
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:29

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:29
Credit cards on the net are pretty well guaranteed. You won't lose your cash. More chance of it being skimmed at a dodgy retail store or petrol station eftpos machine.....not the wall ones the ones at the till. I had mine skimmed a few months ago and someone started buying stuff in Brazil with it, about $600. The bank refunded it to me no problem. Cheers Mike
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Follow Up By: Member - Berylvt - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:55

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:55
I keep one card with a low credit limit especially for Internet purchases. I have never had a problem.

The Geocaching.com app is what you want for Geocaching. Just click on the app store, once you have set up your account, and search for "Geocaching" and it will appear. Its free (from memory).
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Follow Up By: Member - KEITH W (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:18

Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:18
i use a woolworths reloadable mastercard, it has a chip in it, works like a normal credit card, and you put any amount into it online or at the woolies service desk.
use it for petrol at the epump etc...
keith
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:34

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:34
hi

just purchased the exact same phone last week and like you have been on a steep learning curve !!

I have found the easiest way to get apps is to go on the computer and use google search for android apps..........there are several sites that will come up and some specific to Australia....one that comes to mind is appbrain.com

There is a plethora of free apps that are very good and of course some you have to pay for.....just look around at them and select those that you want

I refuse to use my credit card on the phone and so far have downloaded a number of free apps that are absoultely brilliant...these range from financial stuff, weather, navigation, compass, spirit levels, dictionary, football, amazon kindle etc etc.

Two geocaching apps that are free you could look at are Geobeagle and C:Geo
these may suit you ok

what i do as to use the computer to search for the aps that are available, read user comments and once I decide what I might like i then go to the phone and click on the little green market app on the menu that came installed on the phone, put in the title on the magnifying glass search spot to search for the title and then download...all done in a flash and no charge

hope that is of some help to you

Regards

Graeme ( PS remember us? ..we just up the road)

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Reply By: Ian & Sue - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:54

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:54
Try going to the geocaching.com.au site (Aussie) and follow the links to the forum, there you will find a bunch of very friendly geocachers who can tell you the pros and cons of using your smartphone.

We have been geocaching since it's inception in Australia back in 2001 it's very addictive.

Quick plug - Oz Mega event 2012! We will all be there, last event was more than anyone every expected, we are doing the big trip again to be there.

Happy to answer any other geocaching questions if you PM me.

Cheers

Sue
Karratha WA

Team name - Team Pathfinder.
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Reply By: get outmore - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:53

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:53
Best app free or paid by streets is
Androzic and its free
it is a direct ozi explorer rip off and is better than the actual ozi app.
It creates waypoints and track files that can be used on ozi explorer.
My androzic runs all the hema maps all the wa 50kin maps natmap 250k for all of oz and perth ubd as well as maos for every country town in wa
beyond question the best mapping app
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:56

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:56
Should ad it doesnt require network coveradge
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:37

Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:37
Hi g-o-m- how did you get the maps onto the phone? I only have DiscoverAus Topo on SD card for the Magellan(which I think you can only use with the magellan and nowhere else). I downloaded Androzic but there was only a generic world map with it. I have since tried Locus- and this seems to use Google maps when in range but obviously wont have maps when out of range.Locus was good because it came with a user manual to get me started. It also links to the Geocashing.com. site.Don't think it works off line though. ta, doc.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 13:51

Sunday, Oct 23, 2011 at 13:51
They are my ozi explorer maps you put them in the androzic folder created when you downloaded the app and it has a sub folder maps. Get onto the androzic website and there is alot if info on there. I downloaded the ecw converter from that site to transform my natmap ecw maps into ozf2 format which androzic uses. It truly is an amazing free app if your used to using ozi explorer
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Reply By: timglobal - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 16:08

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 16:08
Hey Oz Doc.

Have a look here Discussion of Motion X on Android for some informed chat on mapping on the Android.

The Galaxy S2 is a great phone. It should have , or for free be able to load, Google Maps and variants. Try them out and let us know.

What network are you on?

The best way to get to know your phone is to use it, look up problems or ask here for help.

Have fun and post your findings.

T
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Follow Up By: oz doc - Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 18:18

Saturday, Oct 22, 2011 at 18:18
Thanks all- its a rainy afternoon and I've just finnished work so a good time to review all your suggestions and do some internet surfing.I think I will try downloading and testing some free apps and get a feel for what I want and what works with the phone. If these don't suit I will look at the paid for ones. Think I will go to the bank and get a debit card for any internet purchases. Just can't bring myself to use the credit card. Lots of helpful advice - much appreciated.doc.
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Reply By: Lachie - Monday, Oct 24, 2011 at 08:15

Monday, Oct 24, 2011 at 08:15
Hi
What is the Galaxy S2 reception like as you get further out of town.

I am looking at a new phone. I currently have a Nokia 6720 which has given me pretty good reception on my travels and around the farm.

The Galaxy S2 looks a good phone but does not have a blue tick. For that matter neither did the 6720 at the start.

The Nokia N9 looks OK and has a blue tick but has MeeGo which reviewers are doubtful about?
Lachie
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Reply By: disco driver - Monday, Oct 24, 2011 at 14:01

Monday, Oct 24, 2011 at 14:01
Hi Oz doc,

FWIW I go the other way round with my phones.................so much so that my kids say that I'm a Smart user with a dumb phone.

I use my phone to ring people up to talk to them, that's it nothing more.
Anything else I use a hardcopy map and a GPS.................Lots less to learn for an old phart.

Disco.
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