Travelling with 2 cats

Submitted: Sunday, Oct 30, 2011 at 16:57
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Hi folks,
Has anyone had any experience with travelling with a cat or even cats in a caravan? I previously met a couple in Queensland travelling with a cat and they had trained it to be active in a 5th wheeler when they stayed more than a day and trained to a lead for longer periods... They even took this cat on walks etc on a lead.. We are looking to take our 2 family cats with us for 2 to 3 months around the country and was wondering how to go about it and whether others had suggestions. We are starting to train them on leads with a harness we have made specifically that keeps them secure (stops them backing out) and I am planning to try to fabricate a cat enclosure from small guage weldmesh that can be errected quickly and that will strap to the fback of the van. Has anyone custom made anything like this that they have pics of. It would have to fit in some sort of holder on the rear of the van as we have only a sedan (commodore) tow vehicle and the front of the van is sloped and has a window and a boot (Coromal Seca 520). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Sunday, Oct 30, 2011 at 20:46

Sunday, Oct 30, 2011 at 20:46
Hi David

While our three cats and our dog stay home, we have met a number of travellers with cats. They are trained to be walked on a leash (essential in a caravan park). Deals Direct website has a number of options for travelling cats as 'playpens'. I saw one advertised a day or two ago which was like a mesh tent. Depending on how big it is, something like this may also be the answer to keeping them confined when travelling as it a softer than a cat cage if you stop suddenly. Something like this that folds up small would be better than weldmesh which may be awkward to transport.

You will have the same limitations as those travelling with a dog as you won't be able to visit National Parks with your pets, and if using caravan parks, will need to find those that are pet friendly.

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 07:32

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 07:32
They use those soft mesh enclosures at cat shows in Europe and they work very well. Much better than 'hard' enclosures. How do I know this? My wife judges cats at shows all over they world. It's funny what people end up doing :-) She met a teddy bear judge on a plane back from Brisbane the other day. Who would have thought that someone would be flown from Sydney to Brisbane and back to judge teddy bears in a teddy bear show? It's a real feather in your cap to have the best teddy bear :-)..... or cat.
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 18:09

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 18:09
We have an enclosure that runs the length of our house and is 8ft high in parts.. Our cats are spoilt and when we travel they will have the smae as long as I can load it on the van... I have two ideas, one is to make a space at the rear of the van (rear window) which will open to a large portable enclosure... and the other is the same sort of enclosure that opens off a side window or hatch like a cat or dog flap.. Maybe even link the together..

I will try to find aluminium or plastic mesh or even soft mesh as mentioned and stretch this on a light fibreglass or plastic tube frame that I can store in a tube....
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Reply By: Adricat - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 16:48

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 16:48
I like cats too, lets swap recipes.
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:43

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:43
Slow roasted cat on a spit or in a baking dish like a rabbit...

First, skin them like a rabbit or burn their hair off with a blow torch.

Peel and dice a potato or two, halve a full onion, halve a carrot and a parsnip and slow roast them in a baking dish.

1 hour per rabbit at 250 deg c will generally do the job..

Serve with a fine wine
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Follow Up By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:20

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:20
There was a bloke in Barcaldine who was tanning feral cat hides a few years ago - absolutely beautiful and stunning colours. My Buster would make a beautiful sterring wheel cover and he is so big he might even make too fluffy slippers - I've seen worse in KMart. Have to go he's sitting on the computer keyboard biting my fingers! (He can read as well)
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Follow Up By: Rosscotd105 - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 23:09

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 23:09
Hey David,

Not a cat lover but glad that you've a sense of humour.

We have travelled literaly all over Australia with two Ridgebacks, good luck and sorry I couldn't be of more help...

Cheers.
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Reply By: Katie & Paul M - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 18:08

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 18:08
Hi David

We've just bought our first caravan 2 months ago to start our "gypsy nomad" stage of our life, which includes our 5 yr old burmese cat as well. She has been walking on a lead for a year now & we trained her to drive with us locally from a kitten so she's use to the travel. Before we take off on our first adventure we're getting 4 security frames (not the screens) put on the van windows just to ensure she has enough air whilst we're out & about on walks & tours, etc. She's part of our family, so whereever we go, she will go :-)
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:39

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:39
Katie and Paul...

I have started looking for something to fit in the window slots to do just as you suggest.. So far, the flywire at home here has kept them at bay and they sit at the windows thinking about freedom, I am sure..

A mesh screen to reinforce the flywire is a great tip...

We have 2 cats to take with us..
1 x 5 year old Birman and 1 x 2.5 year old Norwegian Forest Cat.

The Birman is passive but looks for and exploits forgoten loopholes and occasionally gets through an open door or window.. He usually basks in his escape for a few minutes (tail wagging, arched back and tantalising running around) but he gets bored and tired quickly and is back at the door or window after ten minutes or so, meowing to come back inside.

The Forest Cat is another matter and he loves to climb high trees and get stuck when he gets out and generally needs someone to fetch him down (get s up and is chicken to come down on his own)

Put them both on leads and they are great together..

PS: Who said you cannot train cats to lead!

Thanks for your post..
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Reply By: GimmeeIsolation - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 22:31

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 22:31
I was at the bin at a parking bay in the middle of nowhere getting rid of the few bits of food wrapper etc I had, I don't usually pull up at them because of all the toilet paper flags in the breeze at them, anyway I digress, and an elderly couple towing their van pulled up nearby, opened the door to the van and out shot the cat running flat out into the bush never to return.
They were screaming and carrying on about their ball of fluff running off.
They got the visual message from my face what I thought of their pet running off to live the rest of its life killing the local wildlife being such an efficient hunter.
There are thousands of cats living in the bush many days drive from civilization.
If you can return from your trip with your moggies, great, if one of them runs away I hope you have a thought for the wildlife because your cat will live quite fine on its own.
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:28

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:28
We regularly let our cats reduce the natural wildlife around here..
It helps keep the feral foxes away by reducing the natural animals they would feed on, in the same way that we clear and burn off undergrowth to protect our homes and forests from possible fires...

Nah! only kidding...

We really are trying to identify what others have done in the past to ensure such a tragedy (lost cat) does not occur..

Our cats are well fed and kind of overweight and sortof flop in a heap when the idea of a harness for walkies is presented... The concept of running and sprinting to get away is off their radar screens..

We have them enclosed to protect them and not the other way around as in 2009 someone poison baited one of our most prized little felines (confirmed by autopsy at the vet) and the odd nod from close neighbours as to them keeping them well sorted keeps us vigilant to this day..
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Follow Up By: GimmeeIsolation - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 13:00

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 13:00
I am glad your trying to do the right thing. I live on acreage north of Broome and there are cats around in the bush and on our property that are way too big for the cat trap, they look like little Panthers. I cross or go around Australia about twice a year and cats are a regular sight in the bush.
I do appreciate the Birds and Lizards we have as our locals, they are better than the human variety.
Thanks to Johnny Howard and a wierdo from Tassie, (no not the greens) I do not have the best tool to get rid of them, I was one of the law abiding idiots that handed my guns in.
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Reply By: Franles - Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:07

Monday, Oct 31, 2011 at 23:07
Dogs they like to travel
Faces to the breeze
Cats sit trembling on your lap
and vomit on your knees
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:26

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:26
Thats for sure, I had to tae a kitten to the vet this week for speying..
It was a trip and a half..
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Reply By: Member - Ruth D (QLD) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:18

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2011 at 08:18
Hello David, Our 5 year old Birman, Buster, regularly travels the Birdsville to Brisbane - or Birdsville to wherever we are going. He goes in the back of the ute in a dog cage with two large chocolate Labradors (sadly, now only one).
That's hilarious when you pull up in a town - people come to look at the dogs and then see Buster. He goes in the camper trailer as well. Buster has been places that he shouldn't and goes anywhere as long as he is with the dogs. We have "trained" him to go walkies with us/the dogs. He does not/will not go on a lead - too hard to drag him along the ground!

When we had the caravan park I found there are many cats going camping with their servants - lots of them live in the caravan and never venture out. I've seen lots of Siamese walking on leads.

As for feral cats - have been in the wilds of the Diamantina fishing and have seen the biggest cat ever watching me from the other side of the river.
The other night in this small viillage where our 'town' house is a feral cat came through the screen in my dressing room and beat the living daylights out of Buster - right there. Unbelieveable. Luckily he still had his winter coat on - there are bits of it still clinging to the clothes in my open wardrobe! So the feral cat trap is back in action - unfortunately this black feral is notorious - even the Policeman is hunting him - and very cunning.

Most cat owners I have seen camping are very responsible - more so than some parents of children, need I say!

Enjoy your companion cats and dogs and travelling! Happy days.
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:36

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:36
Ruth, we saw a few cats with owners in 2009 on an East Coast Holiday and that encourrages us to have a go..

The main Norwegian is really taking to the walkies thing and even has fun with other walkers coming towards him..

He has been conditioned in the last week to 2 smaller dogs that are behind fences here as he goes on his walk and we are confident he will cope..

My wife and I almost took him to the big smoke today for a trial..
I had to get my eyes tested and it was a possible opportunity, but we were unsure as to where we were to go afterwards and so he stayed home..

We have our cats enclosed because of both dog and cat attacks in the past.

Feral cats are in number here as we are in a small rural town and sadly people dump their strays here and bugger off and leave them.. After a week or so, we seem to get starving cats wanting a feed and it is so bad, I have the local rangers cat/dog/fox trap in the back yard as I type..

There are lots of types of owners just as there are lots of cats n dogs and sometimes they are not all responsible... Kudos for those that care..
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 15:36

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 15:36
Yeh ya hear about all sorts of people doing all sorts of things.......but traveling with cats......realy not a good idea.

Cats are simply unpredictable and unreliable.....if they get upset or frightened no matter how well that are " trained".....they will simply run and keep running and you have no hope of finding them or getting them back.

And no matter how fat and lazy you think your cat is..you will be surprised how athletic it can be if it is hungry and or frightened

And in the bush, lots of people simply shoot cats on sight...serioulsy feral cats is a huge problem.

serioulsy do everybody a favour..leave you cats at home.

cheers

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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:28

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 16:28
Bantam, the caravan will be our home...
Home is where the cats are..
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 19:42

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2011 at 19:42
Oh dear.
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Reply By: Member - bill f (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:33

Saturday, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:33
Hi David, What were the mods you made to a harness to stop them backing out? We vhave acquired a rag doll kitten that the cook wants to train as the other 2 are too old to travel & won't wear a harness. Bill
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Follow Up By: Katie & Paul M - Sunday, Nov 06, 2011 at 13:00

Sunday, Nov 06, 2011 at 13:00
I'd like to know the modifications to the harness too please. Katie :-)
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Follow Up By: davidcraker - Friday, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:12

Friday, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:12
Bill and Katie, I simply had my mother (she has a sewing machine) make a cat harness from materials she had around (from making outdoor seat covers) and the attachments that go around the cat were secured by velcro..

Their are two types we are trialling, one is based on an X shape and the other is like a capital F shape

I found a few cat harness patents on the internet and roughly followed their designs but with a few changes..

Instead of using their designs of using plactic locking catches to attach the jackets or harness, my mother substituted this with wide strips of hook and loop velcro..

The attachment ring for the lead is also in the middle of the back part (of the cat) and not at the front (between shoulders) as most harnesses have.

This means that if the buggers pull back, it (the jacket/harness) rides together in a bunch up and tightens the grip and does not pull over their heads as I have commonly found.

Send me an email and I will email back some designs and images..

crakerdn at tpg.com.au
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