Camper Trailer Questions
Submitted: Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 21:59
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Phil P
Hi all,
Just picked up a second hand Aussie Swag Camper trailer and have a couple of questions I'm hoping can be answered.
1. The trailer has a Tregg coupling, is there a security lock for this type of coupling that can be fitted for when the trailer is off the car ?
2. The trailer has no brakes, it's a 7.5 x 5.5 feet in size, is this ok or should I consider fitting brakes ?
3. Any suggestions about rear window protection, is this really an issue ?
Thanks in advance
Phil P
Reply By: Member - Russell S - Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 23:13
Monday, Dec 08, 2003 at 23:13
1. Yes. Stainless steel pin with lock on end - forget name, Aussie Swag will be able to tell you.
2. I'm glad I have brakes, but how hard they are to fit, don't know. Again, a call to Noel, Julia or James at Aussie Swag would be a good idea.
3. All Aussie Swag campers now have the stone deflector standard, refer pictures on their web site. You might be able to get one and just bolt it on.
Sounds like yours is fairly old.....Russell S
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Follow Up By: Member - DickyBeach - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:51
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 05:51
Russell,
I use a darn good padlock.
DB
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:59
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 08:59
I don't know of any security locks for these setups. Would have to be a good market for one though.
A friend uses a wheel clamp for security.
How heavy is the trailer and what vehicle is towing it ??
If its over 750kg, it must have brakes. 650 to 750 , Depending on the vehicle and where you go, brakes would be a good idea.
Under that, brakes are a luxury, but a handy addition.
From memory, Aussie Swags are pretty heavy.
Window protection . . . you betcha. Either fit a proper stone guard to the trailer. That will protect your windows and paint work. At the very least a couple of perspect (sp) panels cut to size for the rear window and stuck on .
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Reply By: Mixo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:43
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:43
FarasIknow, brakes have to be engineered in from the start - axle and hub choices all tie in with the brake set up. If you have to pull up in a big hurry (usually in the city near the lights!) you will be thankful you have brakes - if you hit someone and you are over the said 750kg without brakes, you might lose seriously. What did the camper cost you ?Why I am here looking at this screen ?
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Follow Up By: Phil P - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:04
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:04
Hi Mixo,
The camper cost me $5K, a little more than what I thought a 10 year old camper is worth, but it's in perfect condition !
Phil P
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Reply By: Mixo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:44
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:44
FarasIknow, brakes have to be engineered in from the start - axle and hub choices all tie in with the brake set up. If you have to pull up in a big hurry (usually in the city near the lights!) you will be thankful you have brakes - if you hit someone and you are over the said 750kg without brakes, you might lose seriously. What did the camper cost you ? My HD trailer has over-ride cable disks - low maintenance and effective.Why I am here looking at this screen ?
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:10
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 10:10
You can add lecky brakes anytime. It does require changing hubs etc , but its relatively east to do.
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Reply By: Wombat - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:26
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 11:26
Phil,
Talon make a lock for the tregg hitch and also a htch pin lock. Try
http://www.auslok.com.au/talon/talon.htm
But, they are expensive.
Where are you based? You are welcome to have a gander at ours if you'd like."Live today as if there may be no tomorrow"
Wombat
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Reply By: lizard - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 13:07
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 13:07
Rear window protector - "obies outback" (I think thats it ) makes a polycarbonate screen(s) that velcro onto rear windows - we bought them for out Patrol & very satisified - interestingly we saw an off road camper trailer up at
Cape York with a stone defector fitted - the tow vehicle had a broken rear window !
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Reply By: mrdesmo - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 17:31
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 17:31
Hi Phil P
1. I made my own Treg lock, a stainless steel pin, that has a concealed padlock on the end...simple and effective..seems like there is a market for them...maybe I should make some and flog em! If ya want some pics, let me know....
2. I just fitted electric brakes to my trailer, $470 for the drum kit, $80 for the 2nd hand controller and about $50 for cable and sundries. Pretty simple to do if you can weld and wire yourself...
It probably would have been cheaper in the end to replace the Treg with an override Treg and put on cable drums/discs...but I just wanted electric...
3. Yep its an issue...unless you got a mate in the glass trade!
Cheers
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Reply By: Phil P - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 18:24
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 18:24
Dumb question, but I'll ask anyway.
Can someone explain how the rear window's get broken when towing ? Most cars have mud flaps !
Phil P
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Follow Up By: Member - Gary - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 23:37
Tuesday, Dec 09, 2003 at 23:37
Phil
Stones and Rocks can still get under the mudflaps and bounce off the trailer. I have seen broken windows even though the trailer had a stone guard. I had perspex screens cut to size and velcro on.
Cost about $100 but lot cheaper than $800 to pay for a rear window. Gary
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Follow Up By: Member - Melissa - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:23
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:23
Phil,
As Gary said, stones and rocks still get under mudflaps or since most mudflaps are not much wider than the tyres, stones can flick up off the inside outer tread of the tyre (hope that makes sense). But basically they hit the trailer and bounce back and hit the car. That's why most good trailers are fitted with stone guards...not just to protect the trailer, but also the car.
First stage of protection should be a stone guard on the trailer but this is not always enough. Secondary protection options include perspex velcroed to the windows (folks I know had this fitted for a recent round Oz trip and swear by it) or fit a full width mud flap across the rear of the 4WD leaving about an inch of ground clearance when vehicle is loaded and trailer hooked up. You see a lot of caravanners with this latter type of arrangement.
We're looking at fitting either perspex or full-width mudflap for our
Kimberley trip next year but haven't yet decided which way to go. One argument for the mudflap is that it will protect the entire back of the car from stone chips not just the window.
:o) MelissaPetrol 4.5L GU Patrol &
Camprite TL8 offroad camper
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Reply By: Member - Rohan K - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:53
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:53
1. use one of these
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2. If it weighs more than 750 kgs loaded, yes.
3. Yes, you becha. Fit longer, thicker mudflaps and a stone deflector as per Melissa's advice. This is our set-up
[ View Image]Smile, you're on ExplorOz
Rohan (
Sydney - on the QLD side of the Harbour Bridge)
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Reply By: timj - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 18:20
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 18:20
Hi Phil,
It's definitely possible to break the back window even with a stone guard on the trailer. After getting it replaced in Alice (for a very reasonable price actually) we taped a piece of cardboard across the new window and by the end of the trip back to
Brisbane the cardboard had quite a few dents that would probably have broken the window again if it wasn't covered.
The type of tyre you have makes a big difference to how many stones get kicked up as
well. We have BF Goodrich ATs and the front of our trailer was badly stone damaged. Everywhere that a stone could get past the guard was pounded, even the
suspension parts. The friend who came with us had highway type tyres on and while he had some damage to his trailer it was no where near as bad as ours. He also put cardboard on his window after we broke ours and didn't have a single stone mark on it when we got back. However he had two flat tyres on the trip and we had none so it probably evens out.
I would definitely put brakes on a camper trailer. Most likely it will be over the 750 kilos by the time it is loaded up and when you need to panic stop on a dirt road from a fairly high speed (and it will happen sometime) the rig will stop straight if the brakes do their job. Without them you may
well be watching it come past you as you spin around.
Tim.
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Reply By: Phil P - Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 20:58
Wednesday, Dec 10, 2003 at 20:58
Thanks for your replies, I now have a project for this weekend !
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