Mildura to Cape York to Darwin and back to Mildura. Can it be done in 4-6 wee

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Hi Folks,
I suspect I might be dreaming, but I would be interested if Mildura to Cape York to Darwin and back to Mildura can be accomplished in a 4-6 week time slot which my annual leave entitlements permit. This would need to be accomplished with 3 kids 4 to to 10yo and towing a caravan for the bitumen components of the trip. It would be good to have a bit of a look around as we go, but would be prepared to drive hard for the first day or two.

I know I could easily make this trip last for many months, but time just does not permit. After a day or two of hard driving, it would be good to drop back to around 4 - 5 hours per day for the sanity of the navigator as she tires quickly of the "are we there yet and he touched me etc etc" would be good to spend a few days in Brisbane, Cairns, the Cape and Darwin. Uluru would also be worth a look.

All advice respectfully taken as will be suggested routes and effective bribes to use in persuading the navigator of the merits of such a trip.

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Reply By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:23

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:23
Hi wee, I think you should cut out Darwin and just go to the Cape. You will need every bit of the 6 weeks just to do that. I would also bypass Brisbane and go inland as the Bruce HWY is a nightmare. Head to Moree and then St George up to Charters Towers by the Gregory Hwy then to Cairns via Townsville, the roads are much better and less traffic, oh flat and straight, not winding roads up and down hills following trucks. Hope you have a great time.
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Lynne - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:37

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 15:37
I agree with Andy. You would be flat out doing the Cape in the time you have. You do want to enjoy the trip, not just have a driving marathon! There is plenty to interest you all in northern Qld. Darwin and the Top End is really another trip, worth another 6 weeks on its own. Save it for the next trip. So long as you don't overdo it this time, your family will look forward to the next trip rather than refusing to ever go anywhere with you again! Lynne
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Reply By: Joe - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:12

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:12
The other guys have laid it out, the time frame is too narrow to do anything on that trip justice.

Here's an alternative though:

Drive up to Darwin - get the long haul stuff out of the way early on.

Call in to the obvious places on the way up - Katherine (for the gorge). Mataranka (for the hot springs and/or cave), perhaps take a day out in Alice to see some of the West Macs - getting into the East Macs will take you longer - by camping out in one of the Nat Park sites and walking some of the gorges. The road through is sealed and none of the gorges are a long trek.

Skip Darwin, it's just a city, and head west from Katherine across to Kununurra.

See Lake Argyle and all the local stuff.

If your van is up to it, drive the Gibb River Road and see some of the gorges through there.

Come back from the Broome end via the bitumen and call in to see the Bungle Bungles. You will need a short or high van to get through the creek crossings to get in there (easy driving, just steep angles), but the place is well worth seeing.

Then, from Halls Creek (you'll need to backtrack 50 klms) you can take the Tanami Track (more of a dirt highway) across to just north of Alice and then home.

Six weeks will be enough to catch the highlights of that trip.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:40

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:40
Great tours you have suggested Joe, but i think they said they would be taking the caravan on bitumen only, and leaving it behind for off the black touring. Also some of those trips may be a bit remote for taking small children in case of breakdowns. We covered those areas in 2008 and 2009 and loved every bit of it.

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:20

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:20
sorry Motherhen but i disagree with not taking kids to remote areas just because they are young. we have taken our kids to places such as Cape York (daughter was 3 yrs old), across The Simpson Desert (youngest daughter 2 years old and other daughter 7 years old) and this year they went up through the Gulf aswell (aged 3 and 8 years old).
it can be done easily, you just need some preperation. yes something could go wrong i guess, but why live your life worrying about worst case scenarios, just get out there and enjoy yourself i reckon.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:29

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:29
Hi Rumpig; nothing wrong with taking them remote - as you say - preparation is needed - fine if well prepared and with suitable communications for emergencies. However the Dags have said they would only be taking their caravan on the bitumen, so i imagine it is not one suitable to take on long roads such as the Tanami, and tenting for weeks at a time with three small children may not be what they plan to do as a holiday.

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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 19:02

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 19:02
I think Dags was going to the cape and then Darwin, so I would expect that the Cape is his first port of call. If he travels up the Gregory Hwy he can stop at Carnarvon George, then Undara Volcanic NP from there up to Atherton and see Crater Lake and there are some nice camping grounds at Lake Tinaroo. From their it's a short drive to Mareeba. This is all on flat straight bitumen roads and plenty of things for the kids as well. As Dags said has to keep the navigator happy.
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Reply By: Been-Everywhereman - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:17

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:17
I have carefully planned my 7th trip to The Cape for next year.
Leaving Adelaide and cruising up to Cairns, then up to The Cape via Bloomfield and Battlecamp, Lakefield and then back through the goldfields and across to The Mitchell River area, Burketown, Kingfisher, Lawnhill and then Mount Isa.
We are doing a flying trip and we have 4 weeks to the point of Mt Isa.
You will be struggling.
Each night for us is a single night stop over.

Cheers.

PS. I did your trip in 2005 and it was a brisk run and it took 8 weeks.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:35

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:35
Hi Dags

You must be a masochist thinking about something of that magnitude - and with children? Do yourselves all a favour, and do a little bit each year, stay sane, see the places not just drive past, and enjoy yourselves. There may be a bit of double running there are are mostly alternative routes. What time of year is you holiday leave?

I have a few examples of our trips (WITHOUT children) in my website, Travel Time Frames. When you allow for touring, shopping, doing the laundry, vehicle servicing, waiting for spare parts, together with sightseeing - the purpose of the trips, we average between 100 and 200 kilometres per day. I consider we move fairly fast, somewhere different most nights, and see only a slice of what is on offer at each place as we have so much more to see in this vast country. We also have the advantage of being self sufficient bush campers, so drive until we are ready to stop. This means we can do long days on the homeward leg and just stop at dusk where ever we are.

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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:35

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 16:35
It really comes down to whether you are interested in the journey or just the destination.

Given that you have a young family and presumably want to do more of this sort of trip then the journey is probably what you need to look at. There is plenty to see and do along the way if you just aim for either Darwin or the Cape, but trying to do both in your proposed time frame might make it a one-off experience. In any case you have time on your side and these places will still be there next year and the year after - there's no need to try to cram everything into one trip.

Take as much time as you can and go to one or other of your proposed destinations. Make that enjoyable and your family will probably want to go exploring again. Don't try to drive too far in one day, stop often to take in the sights and let the kids run around and you will be fine.

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Reply By: racinrob - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 17:39

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 17:39
Whoaaa, I know you have time constraints but speaking from experience leave these long trips until you have the time otherwise your navigator and kids won't do another rip, tear and bust trip with you ever again, cooped up in a hot vehicle for many boring hours a day would put most people (kids) off.
Another thought, you'll use roughly the same amount of fuel on that trip whether you do it in six weeks or six months. Have a rethink and do a camping trip up thru the Snowy Mountains for example and take the time to relax and smell the roses.

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Reply By: rumpig - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:26

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 18:26
this year we did Brisbane to Darwin and back again (with kids) in 5 weeks and that was rushed, i wouldn't want to of added the Cape to that aswell (though we did consider it briefly...lol).
i think the time frame is way to limited, you need to do one or the other IMHO. here is a link to the trip we did in that 5 weeks if your interested... http://www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=179&t=121720
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Reply By: Gronk - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 19:08

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 19:08
15 yrs ago, we did a trip around most of Australia in 7 weeks.....with 2 kids ( 10 & 8 ).. in a soft floor camper..

Started at Sydney...up to Cairns ( stayed 5 days), across to lawn Hill gorge., across to Katherine...up to Litchfield Nat park, then Darwin ( 6 days) ... Kakadu( 3 days), then down the middle to Coober Pedy, Victoria, Phillip Isl, then up the coast and home..

We saw a lot of other places I haven't listed, but the point being, it all depends on how much travelling you want to do...

Nowadays, seeing I'm a lot older......I wouldn't think of doing something so quick...but if your kids travel well ( and the missus) it's all possible. !!!

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Reply By: Fatso - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 22:21

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 22:21
G'day Offroaddags,
You have got plenty of good advice so far.
One thing I would like to mention is that all the factors of success & failure will firstly be dependant on how well the trip suits your kids.
You can plan to do great things & conquer great challenges, but if it is out of sorts with the kids you & your wife will not be happy.
Travelling with my kids was the greatest travel I have done in Australia. They made the trips worthwhile. It didn't always start out so great. There was usually a settling in period until we got things working right. With experience this period got shorter each trip.
If you push the kids to hard it is going to backfire on you. They like simple things. Most of all they like Mum & Dads attention.
You can set out with a plan, but for your sake don't make it set in concrete. Be flexible.
You might find the kids can handle 1500 km days. Mine did at times.
Then you might find they can't handle 500 k days. Mine were like that at times too.
What they can & can't handle is something you will have to find out on the road.
One trick my wife worked out early on & it is one that I have mentioned before on this forum, is to have your wife, or whoever is not driving, sit in the back seat. In your case it would be in the middle. Then at each stop rotate the kids through the front seat. That keeps them happy as pigs in mud. They love the attention from mum & dad.
Can the electronic gizmos as well. Family relationships are strengthened by talking. Not I phone apps.
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Reply By: Off-track - Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 23:40

Tuesday, Dec 20, 2011 at 23:40
Hmm, approx 12000km give or take over 6 weeks = 285km per day on average.

Do-able.

Wont see everything but will see more than staying at home.
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Reply By: davmac452 - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:17

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:17
One trick that some friends used for a long trip from Melbourne to The Cape was the dads drove up in 3-4 days and then the girls flew up to meet him, expensive i know but a whole lot easier to put in the 12+ hours driving days.

Also we did cape york as an explorer trip (no kids or wives) some years ago in 2 weeks from Melbourne, a lot rushed, but still worth while, so 3-4 weeks would be great, fir in some Gulf Counrty, but i agree drop the Darwing/top end leg for another trip. Then we cheated by leaving the cars in Cairns and flying back, cars got trucked back for a grand each a week later.
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Reply By: Offroaddags - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:23

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:23
Thanks all,
Some good advice. Thought I might have been a bit adventurous. Will look at the NT leg some other time.
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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 22:20

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 22:20
Why not ????? a lot of people will tell you to cut it short and take your time but if it was me i would go for it............
We did around 11,000 klms in 6 weeks ...... we live in Doomadgee north of Mt Isa, we went from Doomadgee to Isa to Birdsville down the Birdsville track to Marree went up the Strazlecki to Camerons corner down the Broken Hill, to Port Broughton to Port Agusta to Nullabour to WA Gnowangerup to Albany to Bremer Bay to Gnowangerup to Perth to Kal accross the great central road to the Rock/s to Alice Springs to tennent creek to Three Ways to Barkly up the tablelands Hwy accross the Savannah Way back to Doomadgee...........
All in six weeks and it was ABSOLUTLY AWSOME, would i do it again YES YES YES....
Would i do your trip YES, you get to see heaps of stuff, yes you may not stay as long as you wish but if you find a place you really like you can come back and spend time there, i reckon DO IT..
Trick is not to plan to far ahead and that way you are flexable we had our plan as far as Birdsville, when we got there we looked up the "track" and the ferry and away we went, we drove up to the Strazleckie sign and decided to go up to Camerons corner, we then went on to Broken hill, went to the Caves on the nullabour, went to see family at GNP and Perth and then went to Kal and accross the guts to see the rock ........
Cheers
Joe
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 22:29

Wednesday, Dec 21, 2011 at 22:29
Oh and we HAVE KIDS ....... yes 3 of them, 3yrs, 9 yrs and 11yrs ...... all and any kids love the remote stuff but keep in mind it really is not very "remote" any more, zillions of travellers and towns everyware, what people call "remote" is a bit funny at times ...... they will need traffic lights at the cape soon hahaha
Mate they are the BEST travellers but you MUST have dvd players ..... dont even dream of going with out them .......
Wonderful people will tell you NOT to do it with kids ....... sadly there kids have missed out on some awsome stuff...
:-)
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 00:11

Thursday, Dec 22, 2011 at 00:11
100% agree with Joe n Mel on every part.
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