first outback Family adventure
Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:16
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Member - David T5
Hi all
I am about to take my family on our first outback adventure and am very excited but at the same time very nervous, I have had many years of experience camping, and driving on bush tracks, but have never undertaken something like this. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
This is roughly what I intend to do:
Toowoomba,
Longreach,
winton,
Lark Quarry.
Winton to Alice via the Plenty Hwy.
Alice to Uluru via hermansburg, ormiston
gorge, and
kings canyon.
Uluru to oodnandatta via finke, mt dare, and
Dalhousie Springs.
Oodnadatta to
marree(oodnandatta track),
marree to
Birdsville (
birdsville track).
Birdsville to innaminka,
cameron corner (maybe), and
home via
st george.
Vehicle: Hyundai terracan 2.9 CRDi, heavy duty shocks, air bags, slight lift, dual battery, bull bar.
Towing an "off road extreme" CT (1200kg).
Planning to set off in June, and have 4-5 weeks to do it in.
Also, people say its too crowded in Central Aus in June, how crowded ?, does that mean we wont find accomidation in
camp grounds, or will there be bumper to bumper on the outback roads.
Regards
Nervous Dave
Reply By: patsproule - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:24
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:24
How old are your kids? While I want
mine to see the country when travelling, the best investment I bought was an in-car DVD player. We dont use it all the time but it's good for when the "are we there yet"s start coming.
Other tips - plan plenty of stops and give them time to run around when stopping. Dont feed them heaps of sugar in the car. Do some research on the
places you are visiting ahead of the trip so that you can tell them info about where they are and what happens there. But otherwise kids are very adaptable. Stop worrying and get out there!
Pat
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:50
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:50
Hi Dave
Don't know size/age of family but I'd give everybody some clear responsibilites such they get involved.
Places like Alice can get booked out if school holidays or big events ,
check these but otherwise it won't be bumper to bumper.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 12:07
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 12:07
Hi Dave,
You will have a great time, its normal to be a bit nervous if going out that way for the first time, but there is really not too much to be concerned about, especially if you are
well prepared.
A couple of points -
Lark Quarry is currently closed while the building over the dinosaur tracks is repaired. Also if you are planning to go Innaminka to
Cameron Corner via Bollards Lagoon, that track is closed too. Other than that everything you have listed is via formed roads although these may become corrugated.
It does get busy in the centre during the winter, but once away from Alice you really wont notice much. Its certainly not bumper to bumper. There will be enough traffic to be reassuring if anything goes astray. Would pay to book in advance into a CP in
Alice Springs.
Try not to rely too much on electronic aids to keep your kids entertained - get them to keep a diary/scrapbook to encourage them to take note of what they are experiencing. Use the travelling times to tell stories, sing songs, play games etc and the time will fly by.
Cheers,
Val.
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 19:46
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 19:46
Dave,
Like others I am not a fan on electronic entertainment.
I started travelling when my now 19 yr old son was 4months and never used a DVD or the like. He still comes out bush with me. As do my girls now 23 and 18.
The best thing we ever came up with was on the
Cape York trip, the kids were 11, 7 and 6. We had the kids count water crossings. We defined what counted and every time I approached water on the road we reminded the kids about the count. They debated if this one counted then argued over what we were up to before agreeing on the number. We were away 8 weeks and barely had an argument.
On another trip my son worked out that red dirt ment we were on the top of a
hill and
grey dirt ment we were down low. Just from looking out the window.
Your trip looks great take some warm bedding as it can get cold out that way overnight. I would book something in Alice but wing the rest.
Duncs
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 13:06
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 13:06
Can be done easily over 4-5 weeks with that set up.
Three major bits of advice are have near new tyres, not to rush as you have plenty of time and reduce tyre pressure when on dirt. Two web sites to use for advice are the Pink Road House and Mt Dare Station. Just Google them.
We did it a few years ago in July school holidays, the most crowded time of all. Major centres like Alice, Mt Isa,
Coober Pedy &
Longreach were busy but I wouldn't say crowded as a coastal CP in summer. There are plenty of spots to
bush camp
We had no problems by booking ahead and we found the CP were obliging if we needed to vary arrival departure dates provided we told them in advance
There are numerous
blogs and
forum threads if you just use the search function you will discover a treasure trove of information at ExploreOz.
With the exception of roads within NP, I found the dirt roads were far better than I expected.
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Reply By: Member - Graeme W (NSW) - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 14:15
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 14:15
Hi Dave,
Alice Springs will be very busy around the 10 of June due to the Finke Desert race. It would be difficult to get into a caravan park during race week without booking
well in advance.
When you’re out near
Hermannsburg,
Palm Valley is
well worth a visit. There’s an excellent
campground with hot showers and a couple of walks to do.
From your route I assume you’ll go through
Boulia. The Min Min Light Encounter at the
Tourist info centre is very good.
Graeme
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 17:26
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 17:26
Looks like a great trip to me (I've been to those
places, some 2x, and they are either great or wonderful, in the right weather :-o). Most importantly, you have enough time available to enjoy it - finding somewhere to
camp should be no real problem in general, and the roads will probably just be carrying the usual moderate tourist traffic levels - not a problem for the thoughtful outback driver !
Getting in quite early in the afternoon improves your chances of a place in any of the busy towns and popular camps - Ormiston G for example - quite limited
places there (but oh.... what a place... 9 days on our last stay) . For the busy towns, there is usually an overflow opportunity of some sort just on the edge of town, especially suitable for campers not needing power.
Your hardware sounds highly suitable - along with the gear to help you survive adverse weather (eg.....stranded for days by rain - can happen any time, anywhere) with a family in tow, long distance communication options would be on my list. Have a great time.
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Reply By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 18:38
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 18:38
Take an extra spare tyre, no need for an extra rim. Do sunset on top of Big Red. Its only half an hour out of
Birdsville :-) Leave the trailer in
Birdsville of course. Sounds great. Cheers.
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Reply By: Carreen - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 21:41
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 21:41
Hey Dave,
My children are 25, 22 and 18 and we have taken them camping since they were toddlers. All of them love the bush and have transversed this great country of ours and learnt many things. I am a teacher and I believe getting out there with the children sharing experiences, talking, laughing builds lasting impressions and relationships and helps them with their school work as they have a real understanding of things like telegraph stations instead of reading about them in a book. We went with another family to
Kings Canyon and were very strict about the children walking with a parent between them and the
cliff drops. Not the place for children to run around or up to edges to have a look.
Now days we have to gather them from different states to get in a family camping trip so lucky you-enjoy!
Carreen
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Reply By: Ross M - Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 22:52
Wednesday, Feb 01, 2012 at 22:52
With 5 adults you will be cosy in a Terracan.
When travelling from Hermansburg to
Kings Canyon you will need to buy a
Mereenie loop road pass because you are crossing Aboriginal land.
This road is really smooth just after the
grader but can be very rough and corrugated.
This will give your
suspension a very good work out with 5 on board.
Travel much slower, you see more, on this section to
Kings Canyon with your tyre pressures lowered eg 35psi down to 28 or even less. On the trailer too.
Lots of camper trailers have broken axles off on this road. Yes, wheel goes walkies suddenly and
ruins your holiday. Seen it happen to a Jayco OFF ROAD camper. They had to tow it 30 km with only one wheel to the KC resort
campground. About $1000 in total extra cost and just on 1000km extra to go back to Alice and return with bits repaired. + 3 days off the holiday.
Because you have airbags to hold the load up the
suspension will not be as compliant as it is unloaded and little bag pressure.
So make sure you have a good quality compressor with you to re inflate tyres when onto the smooth stuff again.
If you have a trailer plug and anderson plug ensure it is retained if either plug falls out. The terrain just wears them away very quickly. I have replaced a number of these for people who thought it couldn't fall out and drag.
Just use an ockie strap around them and the A frame.
Ask people at petrol stops and cvan parks etc what the accomodation is like near where you intend to go. Most are happy to tell you the situations and the good and bads.
Regards
Ross M
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