what is the best 4x4 of the 90's and early 2000's for towing?

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hi guys,
As ive mentioned in a previous thread, i'm looking to buy a 4x4 to tow a race car and trailer.

Does anyone know what the best 4x4 for towing were from early 90's to early 2000's?

I'm open to any make or model but the priority is something that is reliable,
fuel efficient and enough power to tow 2500kg.
Any info on this matter would be appreciated.
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:18

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:18
I like the 4.2lt turbo diesel Patrols, Solid reliable.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:35

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:35
x2 and I'm a Toyota owner...


Toyota 100 HDJ100R is the best but not in the 1990's to early 2000's
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Reply By: Retired & Lovin It - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:51

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:51
We had a 2004 GU 3.0 Ltr Auto STL Patrol towing a 2.5 Ton Roadstar Caravan, Blew 2 motors over a 6 year period. Swine of a machine. Vehicle always serviced , just a boy doing a man's job. Have since had it buried.
Anything over 2 ton needs a 6 cylinder or better. I will probably get some arguments but the early 3.0 ltr TD Nissans are an expensive explosion waiting to happen. best wishes in finding a good 4.2 GU (last ones plated 2004)
cheers Don
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Reply By: B1B2 - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:10

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:10
G'day
I would go the 80 series LC diesel for reliability. Retro fit a t/c and it would be the way to go. it has a 145 litre tank std, so the range is good.

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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:40

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:40
B1B2

Most/many 80's had a 2500kg braked towing capacity, that would be right on the limit.
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Follow Up By: B1B2 - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:04

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:04
Tony,
As Hamo said -
"The 80 series upto aug 1996 have a 2.5ton tow rating & after aug 1996 they have a 3.5ton tow rating."
BUT my Bil has an early 1997 80 with a 2.5 tow limit, which i thought was wrong.

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Bill
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 18:19

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 18:19
B1B2

It is whatever is on the compliance plate, as I said, "Most/many had 2500kg braked towing capacity" In my reckoning 1990 to 1996 is 6 years then 1996 to 1997 is 2 years.

They were supposed to be changed by the dealer prior to registration, many were not as you said, that Bil has an early 1997 one at 2500kg, which is more common than you would expect.

It the Gross Combination Mass that cannot be altered on a vehicle. GCM is GVM plus Braked towing.
The 80's was made up of Gross Combination Mass (kg) 5460 or Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 2960 and Towing Braked (kg) 2500

The GVM is Kerb Weight (kg) 2045 plus Pay Load (kg) 915 in standard (GXL) form.

As you can imagine a jump of 1 tonne towing capacity is enormous, it was the late 80's that had a similar/identical chassis to the following 100's that had a 3.5 tonne limit, but I believe that there was no ADR on the vehicle as it was tagged as commercial.

The Troopy had a 3.5 tonne braked tow loading.
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Reply By: lizard - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:28

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 20:28
GU 4.2 intercooled TD
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Reply By: funkynsx - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 22:48

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 22:48
Cheers guys,
Does the GU have the same overheating issues as the GQ?
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 23:57

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 23:57
We have a 1999 GU 4.2L which we tow our 18ft caravan with, we don't have any heating problems with it unless we have the aircon going and climbing hills.

Apart from that problem we are very happy with our vehicle, no other problems with it, has done a few very rough trips as well.

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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (NSW) - Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 23:48

Monday, Mar 12, 2012 at 23:48
Toyota HJ 80 1HDT or later multi valve Diesel engine. Cant go past them.
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Wayne B
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 13:17

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 13:17
Agree with Wayne, an 80 series with either of the turbo engines.......if you can find someone to sell you one.

Why not a 79 series ute, with turbo engine? You can tow-start a 12 tonne Cat Grader with them........as long as you don't do it regularly!

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Reply By: funkynsx - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:29

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 00:29
what about the GU 2.8 6 cylinder?
There are alot around for $10000 to $15000.
I guess there's a reason why there so cheap.
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Follow Up By: Geoff in SA - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:33

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:33
why are they so cheap..........

they have a fly by wire motor that is so undernourished, have a car clutch and a weak gearbox

else if you want to just drive it as it comes from the showroom floor thasy are a good vehicle
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Reply By: Geoff in SA - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:31

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:31
Hi
I agree with the 4.2 TD Intercooled Patrol
But remember this

The wagon has a towing capacity of 3500kgs
The Cab Chassis is ONLY 2500kgs

I was one of many who were caught out in this department.

We bit the bullet and bought a ford ute


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Reply By: Geoff in SA - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:34

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:34
Hi
I agree with the 4.2 TD Intercooled Patrol
But remember this

The wagon has a towing capacity of 3500kgs
The Cab Chassis is ONLY 2500kgs

I was one of many who were caught out in this department.

We bit the bullet and bought a ford ute


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Reply By: lambo - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:18

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 09:18
I have a GU4 y61 05 Patrol, 6 cyl 4.2 turbo intercooled manual. Runs like a dream. I tow a 3 tonne boat and have done long trips towing the boat including perth/sydney, sydney/airlie beach and return and numerous shorter trips (South coast nsw and north coast nsw). Averages 16-17 l/100 km whist towing at around 95/105 kph. Wud get better with slower speed. Its never missed a beat, and drives really nicely. Even tho its a manual, SWMBO drives it too (shes only ever driven automatics) without issues.

As Dick Johnson said "there is no substitute for cubes

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:08

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:08
Towing capacity , fuel efficient ,4x4 , comfortable and not overpriced ?? JEEP Grand Cherokee turbo diesel !!!
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:09

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:09
I usually reccomend the 2002 4800 manual GU petrol Patrol to this question Funky.

It is not fuel efficent and will use around 19lt/100km for that duty.

It will however cost you less money over its life cycle because of lower purchase price and depreciation.

Some above have reccomended the earlier 4.2 diesel patrol , its a great car but compared to its petrol cousin it has the following downsides for towing duty.

Smaller brakes
less towing capacity (4800 is 3.5T)
much more expensive
less torque
massively less power 114/185kw.
lots more NVH
Smaller diff - 4800 is a huge 266mm

For good highway towing you need a wide strong torque band and a stable long wheelbase vehicle , and the ability to pass quickly.

Check them out


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Follow Up By: funkynsx - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:33

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:33
cheers Robin,
I am considering a petrol dual fuel model.
Mainly because of the price but the extra power and torque is attractive.
I like the turbo diesels because of their reliability and efficency but i would like a more modern 4x4 and the modern turbo diesels are quite expensive.
So maybe i will have to go petrol/lpg.
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Reply By: hamo - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:49

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 15:49
I've got a 80 series factory turbo diesel 24 valve motor with a auto.
Towed a few cars on trailers & you wouldnt know it was there.
I have a mate with a 2007 nissan pootrol ute with thier factory turbo diesel 4.2 with a 5 speed manuel.
When we go away he use's 30lt more than me per 1000ks & when we get to some hills i see him disappear in my rearvision mirror's.

The 80 series upto aug 1996 have a 2.5ton tow rating & after aug 1996 they have a 3.5ton tow rating.

Nissans are rubbish for towing
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:20

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 17:20
Another vote for the 4.2td Patrol.
Mine pictured below 2000 model has done 250k and still going strong.
Towing capacity is 3500kg ball weight 350kg.
However they do overheat when working hard so the air con must be off on those occasions.
Finding a good one will be hard as they are damned popular as a work horse.


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Reply By: funkynsx - Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 20:50

Tuesday, Mar 13, 2012 at 20:50
i'm considering a 2000 Jeep grand cherokee v8 dual fuel.
Do these have any major issues with them?
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Follow Up By: Graeme B5 - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 09:40

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 09:40
HEy Funky,

Jeeps are great, I have a 2000 Grand Limited, great vehicle, drives like a car not a tank. Only had 1 major issue with it (losing all its water) but that is more a luck of the draw thing.

THe price of Jeeps, whether Diesel, Petrol or Dual - sure buys a shedload of repairs should you need it. THere are heaps of good mileage Jeeps around, I'm a fan of them, and the economy is good I reckon too, the V8 limited would tow real well and not add too excessivley to the consumoption, the Diesel would most probably come into its own a bit betterer in that regard maybe.

Am an AMC fan from way back (have a 1970 Rambler Javelin and a 1963 Rambler Ambassador), and quite like the older Jeeps with the 360 in them, thinking of a J10 or J20 at the moment, wouldnt take too much to talk me into it : ))

I do note that the overall posts are more on the negative side to Jeeps, me, I think they are great and many others share that view too. Check 'em out and you decide, the bang for your buck is pretty hard to go past I reckon.

HAve fun deciding

Cheers

Graeme
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:24

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 19:24
I've found Jeeps are bit of a lottery as far as reliability goes. In 25 years I drove back from every trip I did in my 4 Toyota's yet my new Jeep has been on the tilt tray 3 times in 3 years already & this is not uncommon. In fact in the Jeep club several of the bigger trips require RACV extra care to go! It's a pity as otherwise they're well featured vehicles with plenty of character.
Cheers Craig...............
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Reply By: funkynsx - Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 20:00

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2012 at 20:00
Cheers guys,
They do look very nice for the price.
Its not an easy decision.
In a perfect world i would get a GU 4.2 turbo diesel but the're not cheap.
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