Holden Frontera panel/body question (Hail Damage)

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 21, 2003 at 13:20
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Hi everyone,

My Frontera (SE 2000 model) took a beating in the hailstorm that went through Lilydale a few weeks ago. Every panel on the car was damaged. The roof and bonnet being the worst. I've had the insurance quotes done, and most of the work is pretty straight forward - new bonnet - side panels fixed etc. My main concern is that the "winning" panel place wants to chop off the roof/turret section and replace it. Now to me this sounds like something pretty drastic to do to a perfectly good car thats only 3 yrs old!
I was hoping to get some thoughts/feedback/comments from other Frontera owners/experts or those who know about panel work (especially taking roofs off) on how this may have an effect on the car, especially structurally.

Thanks in advance. Scott
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Reply By: Member - Richard- Sunday, Dec 21, 2003 at 20:18

Sunday, Dec 21, 2003 at 20:18
I have a Frontera but I had major hail damage to my wife's Ford. The body shop, who I trust, wanted to chop out the roof and replace it. The insurer, NRMA, said no, repair it. After the repair was done the NRMA agreed the roof was not satisfactory and agreed that the roof should be cut out and replaced. This was done and the job was superb.
All you have to keep in mind is the car is only made up of panels welded together. That is all the body shop will do. Weld in a new panel. The new panel will probably be seam welded where as the original was probably only spot welded and sealed. Structurally the car should be better. I am no expert but do have an MGB. I am presently replacing all the rusted panels. The major structural sill panels are all spot welded into place. The new ones will be seam welded. I think that this will be stronger.
Post a message later as to how you went because I understand replacement Frontera panels are hard to get.Richard and Leonie, The grey nomads.
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Follow Up By: scottyd - Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:26

Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:26
Yeah I read somewhere on here that Frontera panels were a bit scarce, but that's for the insurance company & the panel place to worry about - although if there are problems it's obviously going to take longer to fix. I will keep you posted.
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Reply By: Savvas - Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 10:37

Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 10:37
Scotty,

That's fairly standard and on a Frontera it's less barbaric than it sounds.

My sister's VP Commodore had the same thing done back when it was damaged in Sydney's hailstorm of 1999 and the result was fine. That is true chop and replace.

With a lot of modern cars, including the Frontera, the roof panel nearly about slides in to place. Not so sure about replacing the whole turret though.

Does your insurer guarantee the work? This should help you with peace of mind.
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Follow Up By: scottyd - Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:24

Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:24
Yeah the insurance work is guaranteed. I'm going to get another panel place - who have a really good reputation, to look at the car and see what they say.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:57

Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:57
The trade of panel beating died years ago, when it became cheaper to import shonky panels from Tawian and other countries. Gone are the days of actually beating out damage on the panels, its far cheaper, quicker and easier to bolt on new ones.

Had HEAPS of mates in Sydney, 2 were genuine old school, that could physically MAKE panel shapes out of sheet, Pat James, actually made sections for his old Val to replace rust as he hates using BOG.... and the rest were Replace and Removers...
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 19:24

Monday, Dec 22, 2003 at 19:24
Shame no-one wants to take the time to shrink and re-form the metal in the roof to take out the dints, full roof replacements are common though, they usually stagger the cuts on the pillars and seam weld the joins etc. Shame the interior has to be stripped out , so make sure the job has a full lifetime warranty as you are bound to end up with a heap of new rattles and marks inside. Also check that they will re-spray the whole car not just sections, and make sure they don't just do the clear overcoat on the older panels. I assume the quotes are substantial, about 8k or so ?? Best advise, get fixed and about 6 months later, trade her on something 'virginal'.Moo... everyone knows what a Jackaroo looks like :-)
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Follow Up By: scottyd - Tuesday, Dec 23, 2003 at 08:50

Tuesday, Dec 23, 2003 at 08:50
I'm going to delay the reapir date becasue I want more time to decide the best option. The cheapest quote was around $8100, the next one being around $11000.
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