What are your pet hates on the road.

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 15:45
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Over the past 5 weeks I have found that inconsiderate P's in caravan parks that start their old oilers and other engine knocking vehicles at around 5.50 am,,,,,, and then go back inside their donga or caravan for 10 minutes while their work car is sending fumes and noise into other peoples accommodation IS MY PET HATE AT THE MOMENT.

Ahhhh,,,,, I feel better now!



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Reply By: bazz - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:43

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:43
the idiots with the boom boxes driving through the park get my vote for the "President of the Moron Club"....!!
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Follow Up By: johno59 - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:52

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:52
Thats why we camp in National Parks. Although u still get the idiots that want to start up their Trail Bikes at 7.00am in the morning,but overall I find bush camping much better than in caravan parks johno AAAh! thats better, got it off my chest
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:55

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:55
Bazz

Thankfully we have not had to put up with that as well.

One more sleep and we are off!

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:57

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:57
Johno

We are not set up for national parks, but have experienced the bike problem else where.


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Follow Up By: johno59 - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:10

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:10
I used to say to my kids, IF the indicator lights are flashing, IT MEANS THE INDICATOR SWITCH IS WORKING !!!!! johno
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:56

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 16:56
G'day Boo Boo

Police cars pulling up along side of me !!


Cheers

Gazz
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:22

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:22
Gazz

Best you behave on the road.LOL

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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:07

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:07
Haha! Especially when they are wagging their finger & have a stern expression on their faces!

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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:13

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:13
Howz it going Jeff ?

Yep - that's the exact pet hate I had in mind !!

I'm sure you have experienced that at some point in your life ?


All the best


Gazz
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Follow Up By: Ozrover - Saturday, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:18

Saturday, Apr 21, 2012 at 09:18
Maybe in a former life, now all is well in paradise!

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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:02

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:02
BooBoo, You're a stirrer..:))), but seeing you have opened the gate..I'll throw in a
couple that annoy me slightly...
1. Those that drive straight through the roundabout with the right indicator on..
2. Those that tailgate for no good reason..
I dont get too exited by any driving misdemeanors any more..drive defensively &
hope luck is on your side. cheers.....oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:19

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:19
A Stirrer,,, fair go Oldbaz,, I've got feelings you know. LOL


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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:31

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:31
Add those who don't indicate when leaving roundabouts.
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Follow Up By: BigPixie - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:54

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:54
"Notso posted:
Add those who don't indicate when leaving roundabouts."

Seriously? I hope you don't include driving straight through a roundabout, or expect people to indicate left when they're completing a right turn.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:58

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:58
"Seriously? I hope you don't include driving straight through a roundabout, or expect people to indicate left when they're completing a right turn"????
Oh, sorry...I missed the sarcasasm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Royce- Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:08

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:08
Training for my heavy rigid truck licence a couple of years ago, I was directed to indicate left to leave the roundabout... no matter which exit...
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Follow Up By: Notso - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 14:16

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 14:16
Yep, Turning left you indicate left when entering the roundabout and if it's a big one then indicate again on exit otherwise leave the indicator on. If turning right indicate right when entering then left when leaving, straight ahead, no indicator on enter, left when leaving.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:46

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:46
Just out of curiosity, what's a good reason to tailgate? :-)
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Follow Up By: Notso - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:50

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:50
None, if you define Tailgating as Following too close behind a vehicle for any an unreasonable period. Now that doesn't prevent you from getting close to a vehicle when it is stationery. There is an offence specifically for this when it is done intentionally to intimidate another. I think it's called "Drive With Menace" max penalty 18 months.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 08:14

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 08:14
OP's number 2 peeve was tailgate without good reason. Maybe a good reason is because you can't quite read their funny bumper sticker?
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:16

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:16
Bloody trail bikes and the idiots that own them!
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:49

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:49
You dont know what your missing. I guess im an idiot then?
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Follow Up By: Polaris - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:44

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:44
Seems that you are labelling all trail bike owners as idiots.

I'm offended at the remark!
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:43

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:43
Polaris, I'm not saying all trail bike riders are idiots, only every single one I have ever come across in the bush.

Inconsiderate idiots.

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Follow Up By: Mr Pointyhead - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:37

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:37
Watching the trial bike and rider sliding down the track after they have come around a blind corner in a powerslide on the wrong side of the track only to discover me coming the other way and dropped their bike in panic.


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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:41

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:41
After you got out of your vehicle to help him, did you cop a mouthful of foul abuse for being in the way?
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:32

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:32
Hey BooBook

I have been riding dirt bikes for 40 years and 4wdriving for 30 years. I cannot remember the countless times our group has rescued and helped 4wdrivers who were in trouble or had mechanical problems - we have lent spare wheels, fixed flats, given fuel, done fairly major repairs to some vehicles in remote areas and we have even supplied food and water to some ill prepaired groups in 4wd's ! We have even ridden over 400 k's out of our way on one trip to get spares for some stranded 4wdrivers - not 1 of the half dozen 4wd's who stopped to see what was wrong offered to help them !! I own a 4wd tour company and I can tell you that I have had more issues with IDIOT 4 wheel drivers than any other form of traveller !

How many parks and tracks have been closed because of 4wdrivers wrecking them through sheer stupidity ? On one of my many trips across the Simpson I was talking to the Rangers who had to replace 30 metres of stainless steel cable that was stolen from the Poeppels Corner car park area buy a group of 4wdrivers ! There are idoits in every form of travel.

You have obviously had a couple of bad encounters with some d------ds on dirt bikes but DON'T tar all riders with the same brush !! You never know BooBook - one day you may change you ignorant views when you need or get help from a group of dirt bike riders who are sensible, law abiding, bush loving ordinary people !!

Happy travelling


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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:16

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:16
Thank you for enlightening me Gazz.

Perhaps we could both have more of an open mind.

:-)
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Follow Up By: Mudguard - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:21

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:21
Spot on Gazz
,Unfortunately there are those people who just don't give a ........ ! We have been in the 4wd club/assocciation/committee side for a long time and be it 4wds, Caravans,motorhome,trail riders,even bushwalkers, log onto their respective forums they all have the same type of hassles
cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:22

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:22
No worries BooBook !


No need for me to change anything - I can already see both sides of the story !

All the best to you


Gazz

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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:28

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:28
Selfish Toyota owners who think THEY OWN the road and the caravan parks and also think that national parks are theirs for the taking !

BooBook - not all trail bike riders are idiots - remember that four wheel drive owners cop a lot of flak from other motorists for being "ïdiots" and "hogs" of the road !

Happy Travelling

Gazz

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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:46

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:46
Tut tut baging ota drivers !!
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Follow Up By: Mr Pointyhead - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:47

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:47
I should add that I do try and be a trial bike aware driver. On narrow tracks I always move over and stop to let them pass as I think that is the safest way to share the track with them. Also, I try and keep a good eye out behind me so I can let the riders safely past me so both myself and the riders can safely share the tracks.

Sure there are idiots who ride trail bikes but there are also plenty of idiots behind the wheels of 4x4's as well and I try not to let myself fall into the latter catagory.

IMHO, the greatest idiots on trail bikes are the fools who allow inexperienced and unlicensed kids on unregistered peewee type bikes to ride on public roads and tracks mixing it up with 4x4's and other trail bikes. I have seen some horrific near misses caused by these inexperienced and unsupervised kids.

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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:49

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:49
Mr Pointyhead

Kudos to you sir !

Four wheel drivers and trail bike riders pretty much share the same interest - it's just a different vehicle used. Every group I have ever ridden with have always shown respect to other road users ( mainly 4wd's where we go ) and like yourself most 4wdrivers give us respect as well - it works both ways !

I could not agree with you more re: adults letting young kids ride unregistered bikes - some even without protective clothing - It's my pet hate !!

Look forward to sharing a beer ( and the track ) with you somewhere in this big brown land !

All the best

Gazz
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:32

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:32
Well we have recently sold our caravan & are now in the process of selling our Ute.................. SO now that we are back to travelling around in a sedan my pet hate is you blasted lot towing vans and camper trailers, holding up the traffic with a funeral procession behind you!! LOL & safe travelling!
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:50

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:50
Cracks me up
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Follow Up By: Sir Kev & Darkie - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:25

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:25
My pet hate is having to console nsw supporters every year ;)

Cheers Kev


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Reply By: The Landy - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:32

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:32
Oh well, I’ll toss one in.

Was coming back into Sydney along the F3 Freeway the other day, lots of traffic on a three-lane highway, and there were a number of caravans travelling well under the posted limit (110kph) in the middle lane, the drivers seemingly oblivious to the havoc it was wreaking on the traffic flow. Bearing in mind that above 80kph it is illegal to pass on the inside lane. There was some choice opinions being given on Channel 40 by the trucking fraternity – rightly so!

Nothing wrong with travelling under-speed, just do it in the left lane and show consideration to other road users...

And I’m with Olbaz, I don’t get too excited by other’s driving misdemeanors and also adopt a similar approach of driving defensively and hoping luck is on your side. And let’s face it; ‘The Landy’ spends a lot of time in the left-lane!

Ah, deep sigh – better now, thanks for the opportunity to vent Boo Boo, and enjoy your trip...

Good evening to all...
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:46

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:46
Hey Landy,

"Bearing in mind that above 80kph it is illegal to pass on the inside lane."

Did I miss the memo on that one?
Or is it just a Sydney thing?

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Follow Up By: Lex M - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:51

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 17:51
I must have missed that memo too.

From this site:-
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Queensland-Road-Rules/Road-rules-refresher/Keeping-left.aspx

"Drivers are allowed to overtake on the left on all multi-lane roads."
No restrictions mentioned.

Guess the other states just haven't caught up with Qld yet. :-)
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:12

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:12
I drive the F3 4 times a week and I always drive the left lane it's actually! safer and in congested traffic faster! so you are always over taking the traffic in the other two lanes.

Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Tim - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:19

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:19
NSW Roads Rules 2008

141 No overtaking etc to the left of a vehicle

(1) A driver (except the rider of a bicycle) must not overtake a vehicle to the left of the vehicle unless:

(a) the driver is driving on a multi-lane road and the vehicle can be safely overtaken in a marked lane to the left of the vehicle, or
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:24

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:24
There's no legal requirement to keep left in W.A. The W.A. road authorities brought in a "keep left" law about 12 or 15 yrs ago, but dropped it within a couple of years, because they stated there was no proof that road safety was improved because of it - and because a lot of people sped up, pulled over to the left and then slowed down, making people behind pull out.

There's signs on multi lane roads that encourage you to keep left - but it's not an enforceable requirement.
I get annoyed with right lane or middle lane hoggers, too - but I doubt whether driver education will ever improve to the point where everyone practises keeping left, where practicable.

Cheers - Ron.
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Follow Up By: Roughasguts - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:26

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:26
Ahhhhh Tim, that be why motor cyclists get done all the time..... Poor buggers it's a bit hard dragging youre legs on the ground in stop start traffic for an hour or two.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:24

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:24
Yes, happy to stand-corrected on the legality of passing on the left on a multi-lane highway, thanks for highlighting...

But I'll stick with the 'drift' of my rant... It would be interesting to hear the thoughts of the professional drivers out there that deal with the problem day in and out...

Good evening to all...

ps. Travelling in the right lane would be a novelty for 'The Landy'


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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:10

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:10
Actually there is a requirement to keep left in WA if the posted speed limit is greater than 80 kph on a dual lane carriage way provided you are not turning right, overtaking slower traffic in the LH lane or otherwise have some damn good reason to travel in the RH lane. If the posted speed limit is 80 kph or less then keeping left is advisory only.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 01:19

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 01:19
Pop - That's an interesting comment. The keep-left requirement is actually for 90kmh and greater, under current interpretation.

However, it's not enforced - very few people know about it - it's not taught in learner drivers handbooks - and basically the law in this area is a "schemozzle", to quote a comedian from a few years back.

This following webpage gives you the idea that numerous road regulations and signage are such a jumble, that even a Philadelphia lawyer couldn't make sense of them.

http://www.perthlaw.biz/Roadcode/Paper%205%20-%20Regulation%20113%20-%20implementation.htm

The keep left regulation in W.A. has been a farcical episode in the history of road rules in W.A. - and its interpretation altered under different Police Commissioners.

Cheers - Ron.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:07

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 07:07
There is a rule (rule 130) in nsw where you can get booked for not keeping left on multi lane roads with a speed limit 80+ or with a sign 'keep left unless overtaking'. That is if you sit out in the centre lane on a 100kph multi lane road then you can be booked. There are at least 9 exceptions to the rule listed. It's worth 20 penalty units. There is no rule that I know of prohibiting overtaking on the left on multi lane roads no matter what the speed.
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Reply By: Frances - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:17

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:17
My pet hate is generators.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:43

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:43
X 2.
Even my local 4 wheel drive club president fired one up on last weekends camp to boil an electric jug for lunch despite having a gas cooker in his van & there being a kettle on the fire. Why????
Cheers Craig...............
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:52

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:52
Have to go along with that - plus oncoming vehicles on gravel roads that dont slow down and end up spraying you with rocks. And trailbikes around camps.

Thankfully the annoying ones are in the minority (usually).

Cheers,

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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:36

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:36
Been sprayed plenty of times, without a problem, until last week. Bitumen road near town and a Hyundai throws up a rock and buggers the windscreen. Just a bad luck day.

Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:41

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:41
Bravo Frances! Someone finally said it.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:32

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:32
Yep, I hate generators too.
I've been known to pack up camp and move to get away from them.
And I hate caravan parks where you are packed in like sardines.
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Reply By: Member - Terra'Mer - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:28

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:28
Road kill - too much.
People should drive according to the conditions of the environment, that includes wildlife activity, time of day, season, etc.
I'm a wildlife rescuer, in the Snowy Mountains during the ski season I often needed to pull over and check new road kill for joeys in pouches. I've had to euthanise some wildlife that other drivers leave for dead, rescued many orphans, also left for dead, raised and released some of them.
That's my all time big peeve.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:42

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:42
People who want to drive my car.

You know the ones. They slow down or speed up when you are merging with them to "help" you merge but in a lot of cases they just stuff things up. They should just continue as they were going and let me match their speed and join in where safest.

And then you get the ones who change lanes when they are in your blind spot. I know they are there and plan accordingly BUT when I look they are gone and you wonder for just a second "What the . . . ". And your plans to join are all stuffed up.

Just continue and let me join YOUR line of traffic. You have the right of way so just keep going. It is my responsibility to join safely.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:56

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:56
100%
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:28

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 06:28
Tick!
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Reply By: Bush Wanderer - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:47

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:47
Poor WA drivers....and we have lots of them.
Family came down from NT recently. They thought they were the worst they came across....until they arrived in WA.
Bad driver training, bad advertising several years back due to a poorly prepared ad on how to use roundabouts (even RAC stuffed up in the road magazine a few months ago on indicator usage on roundabouts), they don't know how to keep left, forget about merging...they have absolutely no idea how to merge....most WA drivers are shockers!
Within 5ks of leaving home it's not uncommon to come across atleast a dozen offences.
BW.
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Reply By: Bigfish - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:54

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 18:54
The common element in every thread...people!
Yep there are some pretty stupid, ignorant or down right selfish people out there.

Lucky none of us have ever done anything like that......lol

Best advice is rather than let em upset your day is to chill out a little ...hard to do at times but try.
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Reply By: Member - Tony Z (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:06

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:06
Pet Hate,
Is people that tailgate me in the left lane of an overtaking lane , then they see the left lane ends sign (must have just waken up) and pull out and sit beside you so you must brake to let them pass and then they slow down under the speed limit, and hold up every body till the next over taking lanes and speed up !!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:19

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:19
Spot om mate, I was in a truck one day and this idiot comes up and sits beside me when the left lane is coming to and end. I have the right blinkers on with about 100m left, had to brake and lose speed to merge, then sits on less then my intended cruise speed.
But speeding up on overtaking lanes, then slowing down again to block traffic is my pet hate
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Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:21

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:21
I feel my neck going red as I type this BUT useless/badly thought out/ self serving government over regulations! For example online booking to use National Parks which is great for departments but absolutely unworkable for travellers. NP fees, limited rest stops, no garbage facilities, bad signage, poor roads (where they should be good), poorly considered speed signs, traffic management where/when nothing is happening, etc

Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:03

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:03
Yep a stupid woman was taking our booking . I said we have a camper trailer. No worries. So we paid over the phone. Arrived about 5pm. It was one of those sites where you walk your tents up a little walk way to the camp area of course their office was closed by then. I read lots of people dont use caravan parks and prefer national parks. Hm not us. Never again will we prebook..
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Reply By: equinox - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:31

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 19:31
Inconsiderate tailgating truckies,
and people coming the other way who don't slow down on gravel roads when they pass.


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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:01

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:01
Too true. And especially those who are towing something with inadaquate mud flaps. Fishermen with their timmies are the worst here. I couldn't count the chips on the windscreen. Luckily none broken but lots replaced.

Read caravans as well as any trailers. The ones that always have huge mudflaps to protect their precious cargo behind but when you look at the trailers and vans, stuff all mudflaps.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:26

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:26
Try these for examples. Any one of these will either chip or break your windscreens.

Typical coastal tinnie carrier. This type crystallised ours near Normanton:


As useless as:


No mudflaps:


What!!!


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Reply By: Dreadnought - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:00

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:00
Old people that whinge and whine about petty little things that really don't matter......They just need to chill out and relax. Believe it or not, they aren't the only ones travelling this great country of ours.........It's no good spending the last few years of your life being grumpy..............
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:32

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:32
Hang on a minute there Dreadnought. Some of em have spent their whole lives being grumpy. Why stop now?
Hahahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - VickiW - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:49

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:49
After a year of lurking I can't help myself but jump in here... some good collective good natured grumpiness can be one of life's great entertainments.
So, since I've had about 20yrs of building some travelling grump experiences (over holidays)... tour groups that think they are fine partying & being loud in a NP campsite til late although everyone else is quiet, reducing camping / 4wd access in NPs.
All of the driving ones...
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:35

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 07:35
Hold on dreadnought

What you are forgetting is that a once was enjoyable part of life is being stuffed up by a bunch of Johnny come lately young pups who don't think that following ALL the road rules is necessary. Just pick a few and the rest - they are "petty little things that really don't matter".

Once upon a time you could drive from Sydney to Melbourne and not once would you have any hassles. Other drivers really shared the road not just followed the rules. They would wave, smile and be courteous. There is a big tendency these days to be just the opposite. Sure they wave but it's with one finger. Sure they blink their lights, but it's to high beam instead of down because they are . . . .

Ahhh Bugger it. I could go on but I wont.

I might just make another cuppa and watch the thick fog rise into a lovely day.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Dreadnought - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:28

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:28
See what I mean!!..........
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:07

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:07
Nope. No idea.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 07:45

Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 07:45
What. No explanation. What is it you did not like? Was it the "wave, smile and be courteous" stuff? Was it the "young pups". Oer was it the "one finger salute". I bet you hate following the all the laws and figure it is your god given right to pick and choose which ones suit you and to hell with the rest.

Ahhh The younger generation really do not know how much fun a "sunday ride" was.

But we are here now and I still enjoy the drives just not all drivers.

Phil
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Reply By: Member - Tezza Qld - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:02

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:02
As a operator of a pilot vehicle why do some drivers have to take soooo long to pass a wide load ? An average wide load of 4 metres travels quite safely in the left hand lane of a double or multii lane carriageway. The pilot vehicle will travel directly behind the load.
However in the event of a stopped vehicle on the fog line or a narrowing of the side of the road the wide vehicle will need to move to the right resulting in the use of half the lane to it's right.

My hate is the driver that passes the pilot vehicle and then won't pass the wide load. You are in no mans land if the wide load has to move over. The overtaking vehicle is hidden from view from the truck driver who is relying on the pilot to secure that lane immediately on request.

So if you are overtaking a wide load please do so as quickly as is practical and give the pilot vehicle room to move.


Cheers Teza
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:18

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:18
Tezza there needs to be education on how to react when an over size be it width, length or height vehicle comes. My husband use to cart wide loads. I was asked to polit once. Friggin never. Id be locked up for knocking some idiot out. Worst ive seen is a woman not listening to our pilots directions of getting off the road at a bridge crossing. She overtook cars that were pulled over. The bridge on a bend she entered the same time as us. Her buzz box just fitted under the wheels of our load. All you could hear on the uhf was four letter words from others that was watching.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tezza Qld - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:58

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:58
Yes Old Girl I know what you mean. Couldn't begin to tell you what we see.

Should be introduced into the drivers licence system especially with the high amount of oversize articles now being moved.

A lot of stupid actions we see committed by drivers are not always done by stupid drivers, but by uninformed drivers. Some are bewildered by all the flashing lights.

A TV advertisment would also do a great deal of good. This won't happen until there is a large scale incident involving loss of life. And they preach road safety.


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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:23

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:23
Jeez, don't get me started on idiots in cars coming across oversize loads. As an ex-earthmoving contractor, I've seen and been involved with some rippers.

1. The woman with a car and caravan who tried to pass my 4.2M wide, 100 tonne low-loader on the Gt Eastern Highway, between Southern Cross and Coolgardie. She hit the gravel on the RH shoulder at 80 kmh, lost control, went sideways, and ploughed into the RHF mudguard of the Mack - blowing the front tyre, wrecking the mudguard and the front fuel tank on the Mack.
The car & 'van both rolled - but fortunately, into the scrub, not under the float. I don't know how she got as far out of Perth as she did, with her total lack of driving skills.

2. The old bloke just out of Kalgoorlie, on the Kambalda road, who stopped dead in his lane when he saw the oversize float coming. The brother was piloting, pulled up alongside him, and said - "You'll have to pull off onto the shoulder mate - oversize load coming, it's 4.5M wide."
The old blokes response? With a death grip on the wheel, and making no attempt to move, he cries out - "But, this is MY SIDE OF THE ROAD!!" The float driver had to drive around him.

3. The bloke in the panel van who never even attempted to move over for the brother when he was transporting a Cat D8 with a big stick rake attached.
The brother was forced to move over onto the rain-soaked shoulder, or he'd had torn the roof out of the panel van.
The low-loader wheels went sideways off the road when they hit the muddy shoulder, and the LHS of the stick rake hit a huge whitegum.
This impact with the tree flipped the Cat D8 straight off the float and onto the road, where amazingly, it stayed upright. The panel van driver went on his merry way, oblivious to anything happening around or behind him.

Cheers - Ron.
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:04

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:04
Should start up a form for current and ex truck drivers and pilots to post their horror stories. Its a pitty it takes a death for authorities to stand up and listen.
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Follow Up By: SDG - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 00:01

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 00:01
A few years back I was piloting a wide load through Canberra early one morning with the aid of Police vehicles. On the Monaro Hwy heading to Cooma we had cars overtaking us on the fog lines both sides of the truck. I could not believe that some people would be so stupid especially with the Police there as well, who could not leave their duty here to book them. I often wonder if they took note of number plates.
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Reply By: "crack-a-tinnie" - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:02

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:02
You guys have almost covered most of my "pet hates on the road" but here's a couple more;
1/ car full of female lawn bowlers...say no-more
2/ old blokes driving with their dog on their lap hanging out the drivers window.
3/ people who reverse out of the yard facing the wrong way into the traffic and drive up the road against the traffic until they get into the left lane.

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Reply By: Bazooka - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:03

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:03
Agree with you Boo Boo. There are still a few country towns which have rear-to-the-kerb parking so that every car spews its fumes directly into pedestrian areas and shops. And adding insult to injury it ensures that everyone gets a double dose as cars reverse in and then drive off.
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Reply By: rcam - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:05

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 20:05
people who drive in your blind spot...

intentionally or unintentionaly, why put yourself in a dangerous position.
I think every taxi driver in sydney does it.
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Reply By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:26

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:26
People on pushbikes who insist on using the road when there is a cycle way running next to the road.........ughhh.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 00:29

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 00:29
Bike tyres get flats very easily and the cycle lanes collect crap esp glass so riders have to ride around the debris. its not fun at all.
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Follow Up By: Work2Travel - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 03:34

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 03:34
People on push-bikes who insist on riding side-by-side, and will not ride single file to make it easier for motorists to go around them.

Dwayne.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:18

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:18
perfectly legal to ride 2 abreast. but as a bike rider id have to say not sensable
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:33

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:33
For some God knows what reason it is perfectly legal for some lycra clad loony to ride side by side with his mate even though the general traffic flow is anything from zero to whatever and hold every one else up and then whinge if his rights are not respected.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 17:29

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 17:29
As a cyclist I am terrified when I "see" a black/yellow/green/red Commodore ute - I just know that they will either:

1. see me and feel the urge to scare me/force me off my bike by any means possible - including throwing things at me out their window, honking the horn when they alongside me, yelling abuse at me even though I'm riding in the bike lane in single file, with headlights and rear lights at 5am in the morning when they are coming home from the nightclub!
2. cut me off at roundabouts even though I got onto the roundabout first
3. be in such a rush to get to work that they overtake me in a 50 zone even though this means going on the otherside of the island and even though I'm doing over 40km/hr

There are far more drivers doing the wrong thing when they pass cyclists than cyclists doing the wrong thing on the roads but far enough, some do act arogantly but we are vulnerable and we feel "targetted" at times by drivers that seem to want to aim for us, rather than share the road.

Most cyclists 'drive" but I wonder how many drivers have actually riden a road bike on the road???

Try it - and you'll see its not easy, its scary as hell and it takes all your wits to stay away from drain grids in the road (let your tyre go into a storm-water grate and you'll fall off), glass (get a flat tyre), suddenly ending bike lanes (force you into traffic), and numerous other obstacles!.

We only do it to be fit and healthy and when you ride at speeds over 30km/hr you can't do this on a shared walk path because its too dangerous dodging ipod-wearing dog walkers who let their dog-leads stretch right across the path, plus walkers, joggers, other slow riders get scared by our speed and yell at us to get off the shared path and use the road.

Please take a moment to consider what the cyclist has to contend with and why you have the desire to be aggressive towards them.

Michelle



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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 22:25

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 22:25
Yeah.....and that's another thing Michelle.......ipod wearers.....cyclist's and joggers and walkers.....unbelievable.....you can't talk to them, they cannot hear you and it's dangerous...................don't worry about being healthy....get a car and join us, it's safer :)
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Follow Up By: Dave(NSW) - Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 23:35

Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 23:35
"People on pushbikes who insist on using the road when there is a cycle way running next to the road.........ughhh.

Bike tyres get flats very easily and the cycle lanes collect crap esp glass so riders have to ride around the debris. its not fun at all. "

Why do we spend so much money putting in useless bike lanes then in stead of repairing roads?
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:34

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 22:34
My pet hate is crowds, love going where noone has gone before (at least for the past 24hrs) lol. The more populated the world gets the crappier place it is to live.

Cheers Wilko
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Follow Up By: Bravo Man - Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:18

Thursday, Apr 19, 2012 at 23:18
I have some friends(a married couple) who I travel with at times who often complain about crowded spots. I always tell them that if they were to leave there would be two less people there and it wouldn't be so crowded.

Peter
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Reply By: skulldug - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 00:42

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 00:42
Arrogant interstate drivers who come to Adelaide and think they can just change lanes without us closing the gap on them.

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Follow Up By: KevinE - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:06

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:06
Or us tailgating in the left lane or continually changing lanes so that we're sitting next to them at the next red light lol!
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:37

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 16:37
Hey Skull,

You want to meet the "closing the gap' champions

Try driving in WA.


Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:25

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:25
Driving behind a truck with gravel or rock/soil type material in them. Doesn't matter how new the truck is they still fall through somewhere and spray everyone behind them. I was stuck behind one on the highway in heavy traffic the other day and there wasn't much I could except to slow down so others could overtake me. I got a nice little crack on my window from that.

Everything else doesn't bother me that much I just tune out and mind my own business.
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Reply By: Croozerute - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:29

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 09:29
I hate tailgaters more than anything..
There is never a good excuse to sit on someones backside.. keep a good distance.
Then the idiots will sit right up ya clacker, and continually poke thier nose into the oncoming lane to see if i's clear, then when it is, they pull out at the same speed, and have to boot it..
If the morons sat back they could actually see a lot further up the road, and when it's clear, can build up speed before pulling out.. and all without having to poke a nose out across the road to see..
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Reply By: Penchy - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:50

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:50
Old people. Bit like teenagers - think they know everything and have seen everything, but teenagers dont whinge so much which is why they are second on the list.
Nuff said.
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Reply By: Dust-Devil - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:26

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:26
Whingeing, bitching dudes who have forgotten to take their 'pills', taking up valuable time and space on this forum by admitting the chinks in their human psyche, which in turn has totally exposed mine - reading and responding to this diatribe. (LOL)

Think I might go and change up the 200 VX to this years new release to make me feel better.

Take your 'pills' and have a good week end.

DD

PS

This thread should be merged with the Friday Funnies
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Follow Up By: Croozerute - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:32

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 13:32
hit a nerve huh?
So which one are you then? the bad merger? the tailgater?
must have hit a bit close to home somewhere in this thread huh ... LMAO
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Follow Up By: Dust-Devil - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 14:36

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 14:36
C-U

Nah! I've experienced all of the above at one time or another over the years and some used to bother me a bit but not any more, because I do take my pills, every day, in fact and life is now a breeze. Highly recommend it (LOL)

I am lucky that I am in the position of what I don't do today I do 'tomorrow' etc and I just go with the flow with all the stuff bitched about above.

I do have some chinks in my Human Psyche like:

(a) As mentioned above - getting sucked into reading this diatribe and worse, responding to it. Just can't help myself (LOL)

(b) People who spend their life watching, worrying and bitching about what others do. If I don't like it I just either stand back, give them a wide berth, move away, ignore them what ever, who cares what they do with their lives.

As someone above said. Identify these cootas, and drive defensively at all times and hope like hell you are doing enough to keep yourself out of trouble.

These galoots will eventually come to grief and then it is 'one less for the pension'.

(c) The other thing that really gets to me re roads, vehicles, people etc. is when you enter a bush camping area or shopping centre carpark, and select your area of choice based on no one else being within cooee of you - within minutes sometimes the inevitable mega idiot has parked himself/herself right along side of you with all the bovine manure things mentioned above going gangbusters..


Have I done any of the above - hell yes, when I was a knob and didn't take my pills.

As for today I have just ordered that VX 200 to be built and delivery in July sometime, so nothing much is going to spoil today.

DD

PS

I just love generators and always carry one (LOL)

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 18:03

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 18:03
Oh dear,,,, what have I done.....

Dust- Devil perhaps I need some of your pills.

Naa, just kidding,, my wife and I have just arrived in Goondiwindi and everyone's replys have been read and many have given us a great laugh.

Thanks everyone.. I really do feel better now.



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Follow Up By: Dust-Devil - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 18:26

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 18:26
B-B

I just luv your work (ROFLMAO x 1000)

DD
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Reply By: Axle - Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 19:09

Friday, Apr 20, 2012 at 19:09
Eh, BooBoo, ..Whats this rattley old oiler caper??.....Just because the latest Isuzu oiler is quiet as a church mouse!!...Lol.......Hows The Newie going?



Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: myaussieadventure - Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 01:12

Sunday, Apr 22, 2012 at 01:12
We've been on the road for 16months now and the thing i hate the most is generators and small dogs!
We have a large dog who never makes a sound and everytime we walk past anyone with a small dog - it starts yapping its head off.
Also - generators! ARGH! hate them - solar panels all the way :)

That does feel better ;) hehe
Enjoy your travels!

ps. we had someone start their van at 530am the other morning, I think cause they were cold, kept it going for about an hour - sooo not happy!
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Reply By: Member - Cruiser74 - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:14

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:14
Geez BooBoo you've opened up a can of worms here! As has been suggested before on the thread the common denominator here is people. I am constantly left completely flabbergasted by the impolite, ignorant and downright rudeness of some people. Why, just the other day I was in JB Hi-Fi looking for a cable to charge my phone in car and was shoved to the side by a middle aged woman in the aisle as she passed me!

It's the same on the road, there are a lot of people out there dealing with a lot of demons and are so self absorbed that they are completely ignorant as to the effect their behaviour has on other people. I try not to let these people stop me from being helpful, polite and respectful to others...sometimes it's hard but there are enough b**tards out there! It doesn't stop me from having my pet hates though Top 5 as follows:

1. People that are impatient to over take you but do not take the opportunity to go when it's safe.
2. People that are impatient to over take you, do so, and then proceed to drive slower than you were already driving.
3. People that litter (should be number 1!)
4. Bogans, red necks, morons that arrive at a beautiful, quiet, scenic spot and just completely ruin it with their very presence. (usually same people that litter).
5. Being at work :)

We are all human and although all of these things bother me I have equally had experiences in my life where people have gone well out of their way to help me. Almost everytime I come out of a track and pop the bonnet to attach the compressor and pump up my tyres at least 1 person will slow down and ask if I am OK and do I need help. On a recent trip to Spain I came back to London expecting to stay at a friends place and they stood me up due to getting my return dates wrong. I waited on their door step unshaved and looking like a hobo. The family next door invited me in, cooked me dinner, shared their expensive brandy with me and gave me a bed for the night. I could go on but inherintley there is good in us all sometimes it's just not always on display!

Happy travels
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 20:19

Saturday, Apr 28, 2012 at 20:19
G'day Cruiser74 and everyone else

I should apologise for this post, but I won't. Many of the replies gave me a very good laugh and other than a few pet hates I do enjoy life.

My next post will probably be about the fish I catch at Karumba.

Seeya



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