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G'day all, a test of memories, to drive from Wagga NSW in as straight a line to Carnarvon WA what would be the roads/tracks to take? Doesn't matter how remote it may be & is it feasable? your input would be appreciated, thanks in advance, hoo roo
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Reply By: IronMan - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 18:46

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 18:46
Define "Straight"...

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Follow Up By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:01

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:01
G'day IM, ol' timers moment, but if you lay a ruler between those two points is what I mean, thanks for the reply, hoo roo
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Follow Up By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:17

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:17
G'day again IM, I think Coober Pedy is more in a strait line than the main road, my words were "doesn't matter how remote" meaning no main roads, I have seen most "acceptable roads" - I am looking to anything more direct - remote, thanks for your reply, hoo roo
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Reply By: SDG - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:14

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:14
Lots of old stories from oldtimer truckies how they use to drive from Finemore depot in Wagga Wagga, to that in Perth in 24hrs.
Find an old truckie.

Did they have shortcuts, or a lot of speed?

Or just big noteing themselves?
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Follow Up By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:21

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:21
G'day SDG, my cousin went to school with the original Finemore's in Mangoplah, NSW & drove for them for a lot of years
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Follow Up By: SDG - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:35

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:35
Your cousin must have gone to school with my old man. I wonder if they were involved with the blowing up of the female toilets at Wagga high with him and one of those boys. Apparently the boys were taught in science how to make explosives.

My Grandfather(Gibbs) and Ron Finemore were in business together until he died in a truck crash, then Ron continued on his own. My old man was given first choice of every new truck.
He and your cousin probably know each other.
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Follow Up By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:39

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:39
Hello SDG, please pm me to see what we can trace of the early history of Finemore's, thanks
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 22:33

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 22:33
Sorry mate, they must have been big noting them selves, the trucks of even 40 years ago where very slow compared to todays trucks. In the early 70s it you to take 6 hours Sydney to Bathurst loaded which is a bit over 200ks. A few trucks could av 60mph in those days with highway diffs, but where not much chop on hills.
I do know Smiths transport reguraly do Orange to perth in 4 days with one driver.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 00:09

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 00:09
Never heard of anyone doing Wagga to Perth in 24 hrs in a truck - that would be impossible, even in a GT Falcon.
Brookes of Bunbury used to do Perth to Adelaide in their empty trucks in 24 hrs (2709kms).
The fastest trucks I've seen are the Cleveland Freight Lines (CFL) Mack Muncher Kenworths.

I can recall tailing these blokes (single trailer) at 140kmh in my V8 Sandman ute in the late 1970's. They used to do Adelaide-Perth in under 24hrs - loaded. They were running 450 HP Cat 3408 V8's when others still thought that 300HP was plenty.

I've done Bathurst to about 50kms West of Ceduna in one (very long) day, in 1970. Left Bathurst at 7:00AM and pulled up West of Ceduna 10:30PM that night.
1085 miles (1750kms) was the distance I made, in my near new HD Holden with a 179 red motor - and it was a BLOODY LONG WAY!
I sat on 85-90mph (140-150kmh) all day. I also got extra time due to time changes. I averaged about 70 mph (112kmh) for the day, because I had to slow down through towns, and fuel up and eat. There were no open road speed limits in 1970.

There's no possible way of doing a straight line from Wagga to Carnarvon. You'd have to cut and then repair about 1000 fences (yes, even pastoral properties are fenced) - you'd have to traverse rail lines numerous times, plus Aboriginal lands.

You can't travel along rail reserves without a special permit, and you wouldn't get it. You wouldn't get permission to directly traverse Aboriginal lands in a straight line. You wouldn't get permission to directly traverse the Woomera region, as you'd need.
If you really need to go Wagga to Carnarvon in a straight line, then I'd suggest a microlight.

Cheers - Ron.
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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:15

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:15
You done well Ron, I had a hd and a hr. At 90000 miles I replaces the 179 with a high compression (to high) motor from repco. I remember it would do 90mph UP conrod. But the gearing held you back as a long distance easy cruiser as the standard diff was a 3.55, in the Hr I replaced it with a 3.36 which was a bit better. Replaced the Hr with a 253 LH torana with the moonshot 2.78 that was the first car I owned with really long legs especially after a few mods to breathing lol.
Very hard to av even 100ks over a day.
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:49

Tuesday, Apr 24, 2012 at 19:49
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The distance is 3400km and in many places there are no direct tracks.
If you drive an amphibious Caterpillar dozer it may be possible.

Some one mentioned travelling directly to Perth from Wagga in 24 hours.
About 2920km direct with no slowing or refuelling and retaining an average speed of 123kmh constantly throughout the 24hrs and crossing ocean water 3 times including the GAB.

I had a dream like that once.

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Reply By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:02

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:02
G'day again, my original question was "as straight a line to Carnarvon WA " meaning all the twists 'n turns legally on roads & tracks in AS "straight a line" to Carnarvon, thanks again for the replies, hoo roo
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 23:00

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 23:00
Dingo - I think you're going to find, that following the highway is about the straightest route you'll get.
You can straighten out the highway route somewhat by cutting through the back roads from Mildura to Pt Augusta - but all the rest of the way, the highway is probably as good as you're going to get.

There's no worthwhile roads or tracks that could let you cut through from the Nullarbor to Kalgoorlie - certainly not without a lot of dog-legging and back-tracking. The only road that travels very far due East of Kalgoorlie follows the Trans-Line, and you can't use it without express permission.

SE from Kalgoorlie, there's road and tracks that extend to the highway about 50kms East of Norseman - but these roads and tracks offer little by way of "straight-line" tracking, in comparison to the highway.

You could go Pt Augusta -> CooberPedy -> Gunbarrel Hwy - Laverton -> Lienster -> Sandstone -> Meekatharra - and thence through the Station country (Mt. Gould, Landor, Dairy Creek, Gascoyne Junction) to Carnarvon.

This trek would probably cut about 150kms off the highway route, and provide the closest possible solution to your quest. However, it would need substantial planning (particularly the Gunbarrel section) and a good condition vehicle.

Cheers - Ron.
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