For interest, which 4wd motor deserves the No 1 spot in the last 20yrs

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And i wonder what engine is going to stand out alone in the next 20yrs??


I reckon in small engines, over time the 300TDI landrover engine deserves a spot up there somewhere,

So out of all the Toyo motors And Nissan motors, Jeep and everything else

one of them should stand above the rest, No arguments please!....LOL.


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Reply By: Life Member - Phil B (WA) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:44

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:44
You're a stirrer Axle - lol.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:54

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:54
What Me!!!!,..Lol....Its a interesting point though Phil, as there is oneV8 , maybe two soon, But everything else is going the high output, puny engine!

Might be the survival of the best built engine all over again.


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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:55

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 18:55
Nissan TD 27 Turbo Diesel would have rate highly in the small engine category.

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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:11

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:11
The Non turbo small nissans in some models showed extrordinary reliability as well Shaker, .. Maybe older was better...lol.


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Follow Up By: Madfisher - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:33

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:33
Only discussing this at work tonight
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Reply By: ben_gv3 - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:10

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:10
1HDFTE from the Landcruiser?
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:19

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:19
From all forums and reports it has to be one of the favourites up to date, But is it????.... I'm talking about overall which brings a lot into the equation.


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Follow Up By: Member -Ted - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:58

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:58
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:28

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:28
When Nissan drivers fit them into their Patrols I think that says alot. A smooth reliable engine that has plenty of power from idle to full revs yet quite economical for it's day.
I don't mind the 7.2 litre Navistrar in the F trucks either. I'm yet to find another that will spin the wheels of a 5 tonne truck in 4th gear on a sealed road plus pull like a train when towing :-)
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:41

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:41
Crackles. which was the dud motor fitted to the F Trucks, the one which they got rid of to us from over seas?

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:17

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:17
Yes it was a dud engine as far as reliability goes, but when it went, it REALLY went ;-)
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:12

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:12
Gday Axle!! Would have to be between the Nissan 4.2 TDi or the 100 series diesel.. probably not for performance but on reliability!! Michael
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:25

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:25
Hi Mike, ....Yep its the old Nissan Toyo Thing!!..Lol, But Which one they have built a few engines between them over the years!.


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Reply By: aboutfivebucks (Pilbara) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:34

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:34
Have you chosen 20 years to exclude the 12HT's

Unfair Umpire!!!
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:39

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:39
Lol Mate,.... Well mate bring em all into it of everything!. i'm Fair!


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Reply By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:39

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:39
oh for guds sake, what is wrong with you all ????
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1HZ toyo... what else eh ?????
There are zillions around and still going at 400,000 klms on most now dating back to the nintys ......

On arguments please ????? yeh right hahahha
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:50

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:50
Trouble is Joe most of them are blocking out the sun with smoke at 400,000 ks ,... Lol,...Yep Reputation for reliability has to put them up there.



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Follow Up By: Member - Joe n Mel n kids (FNQ - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:00

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:00
really ..... if we dont do our part to block out those "harmful" sun rays that are causing the "GLOBAL WARMING" then we are not being fair and thinking of our future and our children, oh and Juliars carbon tax, if we did not have global warming then we would not need the old 1HZ's, the old 1HZ's are going to save us from higher carbon taxes by reducing the glare of the sun ....
See us LC owners have it all worked out ..
hahahahahha
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:11

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:11
HaHaHaHaHa,........Maybe Juliia should be driving a 1Hz!!, Better ring her office and advise Mate...Lol.


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Follow Up By: gbc - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 08:11

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 08:11
Another vote 1hz. If they're smokey at 400k it's because they've made it there in spite of their owners. Yanmar boat engines based on the 1hz are the benchmark for reliability. If I had to choose a motor to get me anywhere and back again, it would be this one without a doubt.

The 4.5 petrol in my old 80 series ('93 model so 'only' 19 y.o.) has more than 400km and is still within factory compression tolerances.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jason B (NSW) - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 21:16

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 21:16
Another vote for the 1HZ, they may be slow but they will get you there and back again.
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Reply By: Madfisher - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:42

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 19:42
Axle I think you really need to divide them into petrol and Diesel. I have a friend who got 540000ks out of a maverick(Patrol) petrol and was sold still going.
Nissan use to have the rep as the best engine builder in Japan, sadly that is a thing of the past. But the Rb30 was another golden oldy.
But my vote in the petrol class goes to the 3.5v6 Jack motor. Before I brought mine I asked and engine reconditioner what he thought of them, his reply was he did not really know had never seen a worn out one. Cooked and run out of oil yes but not worn out. Many now are well past 400000ks and have never had the heads off as long as they are not on gas.
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:02

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:02
Well i quess so Pete, .... Maybe a petrol has the overall winning factors overall.

as we know a lot comes into it.



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Reply By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:27

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:27
Got to be the Nissan 3.0Tdi...got to be...surely!!! :-(
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:46

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:46
One Time i would have laughed Andrew,. a few neighbours up from me has one that has done 250,000ks no probs,,,But Vunerable is the best word for those suckers.!!


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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:17

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:17
He should put it in a museum...

'The only 3.0Tdi to never go BANG!...on display' roll-up, roll-up.

Just to prove they do exist.... !!!

I was hoping for a bit more banter out of my suggestion...oh well...must be the GFC and we're losing our sense of humour ;-)
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Reply By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:57

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 20:57
I,m gunna play devils advocate in here and nominate another one ...this time a good solid sedan that will compete well with most softroaders on mapped dirt roads...my 1984 Peugeot 505 STI. At the time of writing this ...it has just edged past 568,300 k,s ...and still going well. Is a Petrol fuel injected manual with a LSD...no cancer and everything in it still works including the clock. Be it only a humble sedan....but I reckon it is a milestone that a damn lot of forbys would be glad to achieve hey. It is used as a daily driver to get SWMBO to work and back...town hack...and the ocasional longer trip to Sydney,Dubbo or Bendigo.
And as for the most reliable long lasting diesel in a fourby...has nearly gotta be the humble Nissan TD42 in Patrols...from all accounts anyway.


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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:14

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:14
Keith! My 2003 4.2 tdi has 335,000ks and my original GU99 4.2 has got around 450,000ks, both totally original except for a clutch in the 99 model.. My current is totally original.. you cant beat that for reliability! Michael
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Follow Up By: Axle - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:31

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:31
G/Day Kieith,.... The early Pugs where always reckonised as bullet proof machines, yours has certainley proved that. .....And you have to remember its a 84 mod after all!!.


Eh Mike !!, your just Arsey...Lol;


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Reply By: bazz - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:03

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:03
the sliver top nissan 4.2 diesel would be one of the most relaible strongest motor built, in buses they will get a million ks (inlaw had bus compy) mind you was getting good milage out of 2.8 d toyotas as well.
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Reply By: Paul and Mel - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:17

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 21:17
yeah the 3L tojo diesel, my old hiace did 663k before she was retired and had never been apart. 1HD-Fte is another trooper, the RB30 was mentioned, another good engine.TD27s can get 500k + before a rebuild(have a funny story about 1 of them but thats for later) the old holden red motors can do 4 or 5ook also without a rebuild. there are many more.
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Reply By: Nutta - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:14

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:14
As for future engines im looking forward to seeing how the new 3.2l 5 cylinder td ford rangers perform.
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Reply By: Member - nick b - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:23

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:23
What deserves No 1 spot ......A lot of the engine recommended - reliability wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding ....of course they are going to last for ever , how about the land rover 4 cyl petrol ....?
what about power & reliability ....... land cruiser 6cyl TD or V8 petrol ,late model Nissan navara TD Triton 3.2 TD I'v got one of these VERY GOOD ......others

Toyota 2H
G60 Nissan
range rover V8
plus all the newer 4wd's

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Reply By: Twinkles - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:36

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 22:36
Talking to a chap in Leongatha the other day. Had an old Subaru Brumby ute. Said it was his third. I asked why he kept getting them. He said the first one did over a million, the second 750,000 and the current one was around 400,000
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Reply By: NTVRX - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 10:35

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 10:35
So you have just knocked over your opened can of worms!!!!!
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Reply By: Stevesub1 - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 13:34

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 13:34
Best, Toyota 1Hz, easy choice and got one.Runners up would be the Nissan TD2.7 in the Teranno's (got one) and Nissan 4.2TD.

My top motor of all time would be the 1.6 litre Ford Escort crossflow motor. I used to rally Escorts (for 27 years, I must be old) and could not kill these motors, easy to maintain, easy to re-build, etc. My last one was abused and raced for 5 years without an oil change or tuneup and was still going well when I gave the car to my son.

Worst would be a tossup, Freelander 1.8 petrol, Freelander V6 (had one), Rangerover 4.6 V8 (had one) - all heaps of trouble in my experience and never again. I turned down a 5 year old Rangie at $20K last year, I have been bitten too many times now by Landrovers and knew the sorid, very sad history of this one.

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Follow Up By: Member - Jason B (NSW) - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 21:22

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 21:22
The 1.6 escort engine was a cracka and bomb proof, I had a few of these as a young fella and couldn't kill them. naturally I went to the 2lt for more power but it was know where near as reliable with the OHC arrangement.

Worst would have to be the cameria engine that use to snap cams every 10000km and the 3lt TD nissan grenade of course.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 16:47

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 16:47
Why has the Prado 3.0 not got a mention? Isn't a derivative in all the HiLux utes too?
They seem to go on and on.

Can't understand the Nissan 3.0 nomination. They have been going BANG for a few years now. You couldn't trust them, even the new ones would have you listening closely as you drove.

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Reply By: passionfruit - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 17:00

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 17:00
I'll throw in a under estimated engine (I had one) ,the 2.8 Daihatsu Rocky diesel engine-------------bullet proof.
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Reply By: Member - Paul&Bill M riverton- Friday, May 18, 2012 at 18:07

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 18:07
the new one will be the v8 4.5 toyota diesel 70 series motor
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul&Bill M riverton- Friday, May 18, 2012 at 18:20

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 18:20
landrover tdi 300 i must agree a good motor
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Friday, May 18, 2012 at 20:56

Friday, May 18, 2012 at 20:56
Hi Axle,

Holden Rodeo 2.8turbo diesel, Easily the best( it did win best motor in the best 4wd in the world 13 years running) bullet proof.

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