Tyres

Submitted: Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 17:34
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Howdy All,

Just the typical tyre question. Looking at updating and thought that i would just go the cooper discovery st again, but after talking to a fellow traveller up at frasier island last week, started thinking bout goodyear mtr's. He said that they were quiet on the road. Can anyone back this up. As the car used mostly on the road i want something not to noisy, but at the same time want decent off road abillity. I know i want a lot. They are 285/75/16 to go on an 80 series cruiser. If anyone can suggest any other tyres it would be greatly appceriated

Cheers
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Reply By: Waynepd (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 20:28

Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 20:28
Hi Cooper,
I have cooper s/t's 265/75/r16
Love 'em and will get 'em again but in the larger 285's

Mine have only become moderately noisy as they have worn. I have about 75,000 on them now and reckon i have at least 20,000 to go.Cheers
waynepd
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Reply By: jemima puddle duck - Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 21:47

Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 21:47
were you happy with the coopers.
if you were just stick to them.
i changed from cooper st to cooper ht but now going back to st.
cheers
you reckon your cute
richard(eskimo)
but im a lot cuter

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Follow Up By: Moose - Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 14:27

Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 14:27
Jemima correct me if I'm wrong but isn't comparing Goodyear MTR's and Cooper STs a bit of an apples and oranges thing? As far as I can ascertain MTR's are mud tyres. The STs are certainly not a mud tyre. Wouldn't the STT's and the MTR's be a better comparison?
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Reply By: fitter - Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 21:54

Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 21:54
Hi guys,
Cooper, if you want a real tyre you can't go past BF Goodrich.
I have had 2 sets of coopers and they both failed( bought 1 set ,the other set came with a 4x4), maybe i just worked them too hard. I go back to BFG's everytime, no wall deformation, no tread seperation, no vibration, all of which are standard on Coopers. As for Goodyear MTR's, they are around the same price as BFG's so why would you bother, I haven't read about MTR's being used in competition anywhere and no tyre with an open pattern will stay quiet in the long run.

My suggestion would be a set of BFG All Terrain in that size, i use mud's but my verhicle is only for touring off-road.

Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 22:14

Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 22:14
Sam Keck has been using MTR's for 2 yrs on his Tuff Truck buggy.. No problems, they bleep on BFG MT's... Ive had both, still runnin MTR's now...

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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne- Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 04:23

Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 04:23
Hi,
I agree with fitter, I put 4 coopers ST on my 93 pajero. I must say I had great grip---but----after 25000ks they rip themself to shred, Coopers reply was the gravel roads caused it (I though ALL TERRAIN meant all terrain. Not everything BUT gravel) Now coopers want $95 each tyre to replace them under warranty. This was 1 expensive mistake. Now I ‘am looking atbleepof my coopers for a different brand of tyres???
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 22:23

Sunday, Jan 18, 2004 at 22:23
I think you will find the Coopers ST's bullet proof.. There are so many people out there now using them, with failure rate very low compared to the BFG KM/KO series tyres, or MTR, or Bridgestone etc.

My MTR's are anything but quiet on the road now they have a few 10k klms on them. But thats typical of any aggressive tire.

Bloke in our club was given a set of ST's to do a 'test' on, when he did one of his annual outback tracks. Now when Trev does his trips, he usually trys to do tracks that havent been travelled on in years. This trip was no exception looking at the pics.

Now He was the last one to get a flat tire, he only got 1, others on BFG MT and 1 on BFG AT both got 2 and 4 respective, 1 destroyed tire on the trip, and other car was on something odd, like Toyos.

If its used mostly on the road, the MTR is a brilliant tire, I went everywhere others on Boggers, and Swampers, Simex's did the other night on a night run. I was down to 20psi all round, with lots more air to let out if required. Then again a GU on BFG MT's also did the same.

If your happy with ST's stick with them as Diamond says. Then again, if your unhappy with MTR's you could sell them VERY easily..
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Reply By: fatz - Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:18

Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:18
Cooper,
I find the MTR's are quiter on the road. put a set on 9000 k's ago and only had dramas balancing them. (took four go's, but I have a feeling the fitter was not too bright). I dont know where you are but I'm in Sydney if you want a look at them and a drive to see for yourself.
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Reply By: AndrewW - Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:43

Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 12:43
Cooper,

I have Goodyear MTR's. All four tyres were supplied out of round. They are only 31x10.5 R15.

Goodyear replaced two, and I was advised that the other two were acceptable.

My vehicle is a Hilux, 2002 Dual Cab, and it still shakes and shimmies a bit now, more than I would like.

Would I buy the MTRs again, NO. I spent a enough to replace one of the dodgy tyres, and three months trying to get them balanced and the problem fixed. NOT a happy customer.

If you are happy with the Coopers, get them again. Others have advised the BFG, if you go this way, make sure they are made in america, it will be stamped on the side, otherwise walk away. I believe the Coopers are a better tyre than the BFG anyway.
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Reply By: Mark - Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 16:30

Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 16:30
I have Cooper ST 285/75's that I put on my GU 3.0TD Patrol from new. Only done 6,500 kms on them, but very happy so far. I had 33" x 10.5 x R15 BFG T/A's on my previous 80 series and did not want to go that way again.

I previously ran almost exclusively BFG T/A's for many years, but since the KO series T/A's came out they just haven't been as good. I rarely had a punture in the non-KO series, but had several puntures, tread piercings, out of round and poor wear on the KO's. Hence my change to Coopers when I replaced the 80 series with a GU Patrol.

As for Goodyear MTR's, you really need to be comparring the Cooper STT's otherwise only comparing an All Terrain type to a specialised mud tyre.

The Cooper ST's are a more aggresive All Terrain tyre than the BFG T/A KO's and have so far outperformed the T/A's on my 80 series on road and off. However, the ST's are definetly noiser than the BFG T/A's, but not enough to be of any concern.

Cheers

Mark
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Follow Up By: Cooper - Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 17:32

Monday, Jan 19, 2004 at 17:32
THanks to all that replied. I was comparing MTR's to ST's because of the low road noise. I know that i should be comparing MTR's to other muddies but i want something that is Quite on the road. I'm not a fan of BFG AT's. I think that i'm most likely better off with the coopers st. Are there any mud tyres that are quiteish on the road? I know that i want a lot.
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Reply By: Member - Hugh (WA) - Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 00:17

Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 00:17
Cooper,

Have you thought about Cooper AT tread pattern? I have used these on two vehicles now and find them to be a great compromise between offroad and onroad use (very quiet). I was going to fit STs to my GU Patrol but have been happy I stuck with ATs.

Talking to local Cooper dealer, his feedback is ATs outperform STs in the sand. Seems the STs tend to dig in too much where as ATs with rounded tread block don't. I think when it gets more serious, or lots of gravel use, the STs would definitely be the go. I suppose it gets down to intended use. Perhaps there might be some feedback from people who have tried both tread patterns. Would make for an interesting discussion.

Hugh
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Follow Up By: Member - Wayne- Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 04:28

Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004 at 04:28
Hi hugh,
I put 4 coopers ST on my 93 pajero. I must say I had great grip---but----after 25000ks they rip themself to shred, Coopers reply was the gravel roads caused it (I though ALL TERRAIN meant all terrain. Not everything BUT gravel) Now coopers want $95 each tyre to replace them under warranty. This was 1 expensive mistake. Now I ‘am looking atbleepof my coopers for a different brand of tyres???
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Reply By: Moose - Wednesday, Jan 21, 2004 at 14:53

Wednesday, Jan 21, 2004 at 14:53
"Are there any mud tyres that are quiteish on the road?". I reckon you'd be pleasantly surprised by the Cooper STTs. Not much in it between ST's and STT's noise wise.
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