Outback Search for Missing People

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Another search is in progress for missing persons out from Broken Hill. Bob

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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 08:43

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 08:43
Hi Bob

Yes it was only this time last week when 25 year old Mo made that same tragic mistake of leaving their vehicle, with him passing the ultimate price, death.

When will people learn the golden rule no 1 is never leave your vehicle.


Lets hope that the three people are found safe and well.



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Follow Up By: Nigel Migraine - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:31

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:31
"When will people learn the golden rule no 1 is never leave your vehicle"

No it is not - it's foolhardy and misleading attempting to reduce complicated situations to a trivial mantra.

Each emergency situation is different and each must be assessed according to the specific circumstances.

The problem is that many people who go bush do not educate themselves and/or equip themselves sufficiently well in order to make an informed and sensible decision if an emergency arises. Much of the reason for this is simple stupidity and, for that, there is no easy solution.

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Reply By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:57

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:57
Maybe it's time the Government started placing BIG billboards in country areas warning people of the risk of outback travelling and no mobile coverage, passing traffic and being prepared.

With the more and more urbanites buying 4x4's for the school run there will be an ever increasing urge for them to venture off the bitumen and things like this will increase.

About 5 years ago we were travelling through Mutawintji National Park; 175k out of Broken Hill...... about 10am we stopped for morning tea along the track for 1/2 an hour.... after morning tea and no more then 15k up the track we came across a Camry towing a caravan stuck in a very deep muddy floodway...... this track was more suited to a 4x4.

We pulled up and two adults and two kids approached us, one of the adults asked if we had a tow rope and could we pull them out..... they had become stuck at 4pm the day before and had not seen any other traffic.

They were due into Broken Hill the night before, we asked them if they needed to phone anyone.... the reply was NO and mobile phones don't work out here.... we informed then satellite phone do....

They had no UHF radio and if they did they would of heard the boundary rides checking bores and could of got help.

It turned out the guy was with a ranger with the NSW National Parks and Wildlife..... obviously a ranger in a park close to Sydney.

It always worry us travelling in remote areas that one day we will come across something we don't want to see.

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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:12

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:12
I think the last thing we want is more signs desecrating the countryside, bad enough in the towns let alone outside where we go get away from some of the crap.
No doubt they would have the appropriate "sponsors" messages plastered all over them as well making them even more of an eyesore.
Quite frankly, if people can't use what's supposed to be between their ears before setting off away from the bitumen, I've little sympathy for what ever poo they find themselves in.
That's not to say I wouldn't help where I could though.
AlanH.

PS. If you want to see bureaucratic lunacy at it's best (?) go to Walyunga Nat P not far from Perth where some lunatic has planted signs in the river advising bathers that it is "untreated water"!!!! Don't know if they're still there as it was some time ago.
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Follow Up By: CSeaJay - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:39

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:39
I actually agree with Olcoolone

There does not have to be additional posts for the signs. No 'additional' eyesore. It can just added to the sign that advises travellers that the "road is open" or the sign that advises trabellers "next fuel 500km"

Obviously the message is not getting through to travellers doing remote travel for the first time, therefore not frequenting sites as this valuable one.

It can save lives, I find it unbelievable Alan that you do not have sympathy for these travellers or the death that occurred last week.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:32

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 11:32
While I agree 110% with the idea/rule of staying with your vehicle if you break down in remote/hostile evironments...... how many people have 'walked out' after breaking down...... we will never know??????
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Reply By: Lyn W3 - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:05

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:05
Seems amazing to me that boats must carry an EPIRB if they go more than 5ks (I think) off shore yet people head off in the wild blue interior without an EPIRB or radio.

BTW we have an EPIRB in each of our cars cause you just never know.
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Follow Up By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:36

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 12:36
HMMM,
I guess travelling in separate cars would have it's advantages.
LOL.
Mike.
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Reply By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 13:32

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 13:32
Radio Australia
"A Victorian woman who was missing in far west New South Wales has been found.

Emergency crews are still searching the area, about 130 kilometres from Broken Hill, for two men who were with her.

Police say they received a triple-0 call yesterday afternoon from a woman who said she was lost about an hour's drive from Broken Hill.

The line dropped out before officers could get more information, but they traced the call to the Mutawintji National Park.

Emergency crews searched until nightfall, and conducted a fly-over of the area.

They found an abandoned car but did not see the tourists, who are from Victoria.

Superintendent Brad Hodder, from Broken Hill Police, says the woman was found this morning in good health.

"About 9:40am we confirmed that the missing female of the party has been located," he said.

"She walked into Acacia Downs around that time and she appears to be in good health. She is currently assisting us with our inquiries in relation to the other two missing persons." "
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Reply By: workhorse - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 14:42

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 14:42
Slightly off topic but maybe we should consider the coast to the community in funding rescue missions. Maybe there is room for an 'adventure insurance' that people might take out to reimburse all/some of the funds spent on some of the more ridiculous rescues.
This does not suggest this incident or people have been silly as I don not all the circumstances.
Most people on this forum are relatively well informed and new comers use the site to become informed, this is our form of 'insurance', we invest time, effort and money in preparing ourselves for these trips and often to aid/assist other.
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:36

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:36
There are still a lot of people on this forum with the "I don't need that and it will never happen to me" attitude; or "someone else will come along and help me."

I've been criticised on this forum many times for be vocal about what you should carry....

The idea of adventure insurance is a good idea but it will only be me and you who gets it..... and chances are we are smart enough not to need it.

What price do you put on a life?

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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:11

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 18:11
It now appears that they have found the woman and one of the men alive, the third person, a male has died.

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Follow Up By: Lyn W3 - Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 20:10

Wednesday, Nov 14, 2012 at 20:10
Read that they were travelling in a Hyundai Excel.

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Reply By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:44

Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:44
A very sad ending for one circle of family and friends. Although we don't know the full story, it does show the advantages of staying with the vehicle.
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Reply By: Member - blackbird1937 - Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 07:47

Thursday, Nov 15, 2012 at 07:47
Some of these people that go to the bush have no common sense, do not carry enough water. They do not drive their particular types of vehicles to the conditions. If anything happens they think that another vehicle will come along within 10 minutes to help them! People need to study the weather, terrain and conditions before they visit these areas. Unfortunately some of them think they are still on asphalt in the city. These types of events have happened in the past and will sadly happen again in the future.
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