How long for Madigan Line

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I have estimated our crossing of the Madigan Line from Old Andando to Birdsville at eight days with departure from Old Andando on the morning of day one and arrival Birdsville the afternoon of day eight.Camp at Old Andando and then seven nights camped and the desert eighth in Birdsville.

We have the okay to do the extra camps (16 - 20 etc) through Annandale but if late can also swing down the Hay River Track and maybe save a day if needed. Dates are important to us for our longer trips. I have to important hospital treatments that are a big "Thou shalt not miss".

I am already dreaming about the trip. Been looking forward to this one for ages. Looks like there will be plenty of company as well. Apparently there have been around 30 applications to cross, submitted already as of last month.

What do those who have driven this crossing say? How many days or, if you prefer, how many nights camped in the desert?
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:07

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:07
We arrived in Birdsville on the eigth day from Mt Dare , camping 1st night at Camp 1A
and going via the harder route thru camps 17,18,19.

It should have been a day less but we were cut off by a flood the entire length of Eyre creek and had to develop a new path down the western side of Eyre creek thru to the top Eyre creek bypass .


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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:51

Saturday, Apr 18, 2015 at 14:51
Hi Robin. Thanks for that. We wont be stopping at Camp 1a. Having camped at Old Andando we will simply drop n and check it out. The previous night will be at Hamilton Station because we got an invite to stay there. We have a photo taken at the cattle yard just north of their on the back of our glass kitchen splashback. Have to drop in so we will stay the night.

But for the rest it sounds just as we plan. I basically devised the plan from videos on Youtube and from a couple of old threads. Don't tell me yours is on Youtube as well. (what year)

The I got from the Central Land Council asks us to bypass Camp 2 and no permit issued for Camps 3 or 4. So we may even be one days less.

Did you go there? I think this is requirement to not go to 2, 3 and 4 is new.

Really looking forward to the drive. A second wheel carrier arrived yesterday and I will fit it this week. Even though we haven't had a flat since 1969 let's not tempt fate.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:39

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 13:39
Camp 2 near the Twins mate ?
Thought all that was open, but obviously not.

I looked at this doc not long ago, pdf map of permissions needed for access, shows track crossing Colson up around the Twins not needing anything, but then it doesn't show Colson either, which is no go normally (read almost impossible without a scientific / research slant on trip).

http://www.clc.org.au/files/pdf/Roads_Map.pdf
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 15:39

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 15:39
A bit slow here. The internet has a YoYo issue.

Here is the map that they sent with the permit.

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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 16:30

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 16:30
Bad copy but you can see the comment about Camp 2 in the long rectangluar text box at the top
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 20:10

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 20:10
Thanks for the info / map.
We should be all clear of requiring permits, a narrow corridor takes us between 2 areas of Aboriginal title land just off Colson to the west.
We do pass camp 2, but believe this is ok as we will camp Madigan 1a, then to Old Andado on back to normality after the north Simpson.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 23:29

Monday, Apr 20, 2015 at 23:29
You may as well get the permit. It's free !!! That was a surprise to us. If you want just go to the central land council site and fill out the form. doesn't hurt. Your choice. We haven't got a date yet. Have to wait for a relative to be okay after an operation.

Heading west to east maybe late July.

Catchya

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 06:51

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 06:51
True, I read that yonks ago on the clc site.
Although all the route we do requires no permit on paper we were told some of the areas we intend passing / visiting MAY be soon on the list of verbotten places, so decided not to risk the trip.
We are very aware of what we might see out there might be significant to the locals, and not to disturb anything, even as basic as stones on the ground at locations.

As far as I can see, even Colson Tk up the where it goes into Aboriginal landholding should not require a permit, but we are only crossing it in any case to play it safe.
We aren't going to other Madigan camps apart from past 2 and possibly camping 1a, both on Andado land.

Anyway, when you get to go, enjoy your trip, should be an awesome experience.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:26

Tuesday, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:26
All good. We have enjoyed our time in the desert and lookin forward to going back.


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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 19:27

Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 19:27
Well, as you know our plans to come across from Geosurveys Hill changed . . .

Just thought I'd mention, we stayed at Hamilton on the way down the Ood, Tim there was looking after the place as his missus was down in adleiade.

The new cabins look good, we camped, and because it was quiet, we were allowed to swag on the lawn in front of those, use the toilet / shower block, AND the great kitchen common room !!

Awesome place, highly recommenced to anyone wanting a stay in the area.

Oh, and Tim said they haven't banned camping at Eringa (yet) . . . read this on a forum recently, maybe this one ?
I asked about this as we visited there on the way down and noticed no signs saying no camping etc . . .
He said they had a bit of a bad run a while ago with people leaving rubbish, but the big issue was some idiot chainsawed a couple of fence rails out of the heritage listed stock yards nearby, for their campfire !!
Unbelievable.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 21:31

Sunday, May 17, 2015 at 21:31
I recall something about the chainsaw. Some people.

I had planned on staying at Hamilton Station. And just topping the fuel up at Mt dare this time through. Bit of a connection with the kitchen splashback. A photo O took is printed on it. hate it - love it.

I wish I could set a date. Ah well all comes to him who waits. . .
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, May 18, 2015 at 09:29

Monday, May 18, 2015 at 09:29
The other little thing I noticed was on the southern bank of Eringa waterhole, a large gum tree root that was exposed had a 4' section missing, cut out by a camper for firewood obviously.
Hopefully only a minority of these campers are so thoughtless, or care for anything / anyone but themselves.

We were petty happy with how clean of litter is was at the time though, couldn't see anything that was a blot on this idyllic location.

Saw your other post in Simmo meet up thread, thought I'd reply here Phil.

"Hi Les

I just revisited this thread and your post on the other Forum. Yes it is remote but that's how we like it. And as far off the bitumen as possible. And we spend a lot of money on preventable maintenance on the car. Some would say more than enough. I have said that I would even go so far as to get a chopper to lift the car out if needed. And I meant it. As a similar vein in a popular song goes. "take it in - take it out".

Running later in the season may also make it a little easier. I spoke to Judy at Adria Downs and have the okay for all but 23 and 24. They are now an organic station and hence are very conscious of people screwing that status up. So you get a good and polite lecture about what you can and can't do and where you can and can't go. All good and we respect their trust. She sounds cool and we are hoping to meet her and Don.

No plan on any side trips this time as we have already been pencilled in for a return trip next year to do the Geocenter and Surveyors Hill. Both in one trip!!!

Phil"

Awesome mate, sounds like you have a good plan mapped out.
I think it would be great to allow a little more time, and as mentioned previously on a thread, take that extra couple of jerries of fuel.
You will have a great trip I'm sure.
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