Where is Cape York? Are you serious??

Chatting to our bank financial planner on the phone the other day. I said that we are thinking of doing a trip to Cape York. SILENCE, then somewhat sheepishly,
" Where is Cape York ?" After my cheeky comment that I hope his knowledge of finances is somewhat better than his Geography, we finished our call. Five minutes later he rang back to let me know that of the 11 bank staff, only 2 knew where Cape York was. Some thought England, some South Africa. Go figure!
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Reply By: Member - Rosco from way back - Friday, Apr 15, 2016 at 22:29

Friday, Apr 15, 2016 at 22:29
What would you expect from people in Mumbai? ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Friday, Apr 15, 2016 at 22:45

Friday, Apr 15, 2016 at 22:45
Please explain? These were Aussies.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rosco from way back - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:06

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:06
It was tongue in cheek. A spot of levity in an oft times dreary world.
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Reply By: Member - John G - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 08:32

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 08:32
G'day Christine and Lindsay

The good news is that you have educated nine folks about their own country.

Cheers
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Reply By: Kevin S - Life Member (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 08:52

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 08:52
We had a similar experience last year when readying ourselves for the Cape York trip. Our doctor had to phone the Health Department to get permission for larger quantities of prescriptions for necessary medication. He had to give a reason so he said that we were going to Cape York. "Where is that?" was the response. So we assumed that he had called Canberra.

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Reply By: uncle arthur - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:26

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:26
I can identify with this. We have had a discussion with a primary school teacher who had never heard of Burke & Wills. What hope do our kids have!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:57

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:57
Like the parents who called their child "Burkin". When asked, they said "You know, like Burkin Wheels" LOL (I kid you not, true story from Jen who heard it in the waiting room)
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Reply By: Time to hit the road - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:40

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:40
We're heading up next month, I'm astounded by the number of people I've spoken to who have no idea where it is!!!
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Reply By: TCM - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:48

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:48
Don't tell everyone, think how crowded the Cape will become.????
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Follow Up By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 21:08

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 21:08
Yes that's one positive although I think too many people go there already.
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Reply By: Bob R4 - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:21

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:21
Just remember that millions of yanks wouldn't know either. So they're with the majority.LOL
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:46

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:46
What I find even more sad is the number of Aussies that can name more American presidents than Australian prime ministers or use the concept of "free speech' as per the US when refering to Australian law.
You've probably heard the somewhat tired old joke about the "overseas" visiter who wanted to know if the Canning Stock Route was an annual event...LOL
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:47

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:47
You can sure get some real entertainment, by watching the Americans being interviewed with geographical questions!!

Jay Leno asks ordinary Americans some geographical/nationality questions
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:00

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:00
Mark Twain supposedly said "God created war so that Americans would learn geography."
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 22:34

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 22:34
"Americanising" Australia !!! Not surprised in the slightest. How many of our mob call a utility a "truck". The other side have been calling them trucks for decades.

Just the same as people now say the "go to man", the "get go" and pronounce defence with extra "ee"s ie deeefence. Even using "two times" instead of twice.

Why should our population know where Cape York is when the people they imitate (USA) don't!

Not surprised at all. Over the last six years visiting a hospital every 4 weeks to just sit in the infusion ward, I have met lots who have very little knowledge of this great wide sunburnt land. Nope! Doesn't surprise me one iota.

Phil
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 18:44

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 18:44
Doesn't surprise me either, Phil, but the Americanisation of our culture brings me to the depths of despair.

Also, the increasing tendency of people to pronounce words ending in " ing" such as something, anything, nothing, etc as if they end in "ink".

Plurals, collective nouns, comparatives, all mispronounced or misused by teachers, so how will our kids get it right.

You've got me started. I will sign off before I blow a fuse.

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Reply By: Kenell - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:49

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:49
The car we were travelling in when we on the Cape last year broke a brake line. We had one bar so called the motoring club to organise a recovery. He knew approx where it was - just north of Cairns !! Told the local agent he wasn't happy with the cost of a loan vehicle and he would get some alternate prices. The recovery chap explained with sufficient adjectives that yes it is just out of Cairns just like Sydney is just out of Melbourne and if he wanted to ring all the car rental coys in Bamaga he was welcome. After 5 mins we had the loan car at the requested price.
They call a spade a shovel up there and delight in assisting others with their geography deficits.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:08

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:08
Typical of many people's insular attitude these days. Not really interested in anything that's not on their own "dung hill".

Talking to a lady on phone last year and it went like this:

"Where's Winton(Qld)?" she asks.

"You know where Longreach is?"

"No"

"Well, do you know where Rockhampton is?"

"No"

"Ahh," says I, "Winton is in western Qld"

And such examples will only become more prevalent, even though EO members are doing their best to educate the masses. :-)

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Reply By: Member - Robyn R4 - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:24

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:24
I am stunned.
I mentioned to a doctor last year that I was off to the Kimberley...he sort of knew where it was and then I forgave him (a little) when I discovered he was a Kiwi and had only been here a few months.
The teacher who didn't know of Burke and Wills was most likely one that has fallen through the educational cracks when they mucked around with the system about 20 years ago. I had a prac student about 10 years ago-she said that her lecturers reckoned they could tell they were the result of that period in education for many reasons!
Be assured that we now have a NSW History syllabus for the Australian Curriculum and it includes "internal exploration", "investigating a particular person and the contributions made to shaping the colony" and "outline the voyages of one early explorer and explain the impact of their voyages" etc.
We just finished a unit of work where we learned about (natural and built) significant features of Australia. My 30 ten-year-olds can identify the Bungle Bungles, 12 Apostles, Wolf Creek Crater and many more Australian sites.
Each week I have a new picture of an Australian place on my desktop and it comes up when I turn on our electronic whiteboard. We discuss it briefly and I point out where it is on the map on the wall.
Last year we spent almost 4 months learning about the convicts and settlement of Australia.
There's hope for the kids coming through the ranks now...they know the 2 verses of the National Anthem, their apostrophes are almost in the right places, they're perfecting their tables, they're learning when to use "they're" or"there" or "their"...

Meanwhile, at least there'll be less people at Cape York when I head there in a few months.

:) Robyn

PS: Many of the "younger generation" (oh crumbs I feel old using that phrase!) holiday overseas because it's such a bargain to them to head for Bali etc. If they've learned where Cape York is back in Primary School (and surely they were!) it's been forgotten and replaced by things more relevant to their lives.


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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 13:46

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 13:46
Maybe I was just lucky but even back in primary school we were taught about Eyre, Stuart, Sturt, Blaxland Wentworth and Lawson, Forrest, Burke and Wills, Bass, Cook of course.

Pity the memory banks are so full of all sorts of other accumulated good stuff and bad stuff that recalling much/any nowadays is like trying to swim through a pool full of chocolate pudding.

(:((

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Members Pa & Ma. - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 15:09

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 15:09
Very good Robyn,
I think a lot more should be taught about what our convicts went through, some of them only children & most didn't want to come here anyway .

Enjoy your trip to Cape York but do drive carefully . Some drivers up there really go far too fast for the conditions.
We were towing so we stayed on the Development Road. By leaving the off-froad van a places like Bramwell Station we were able to do day trips into the O.T.T.

Take care, safe travels, Ma.

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Follow Up By: uncle arthur - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 17:00

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 17:00
Thank you Robyn for the update on the educational system in N.S.W. I just hope all the other states follow suit.
We too are heading to Cape York [if I can find out where it is .....] and maybe we can compare notes one evening around the camp-fire "there" or is it "their".
Regards, Uncle Arthur & Aunty Lorraine
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 18:51

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 18:51
Thank you Robyn, you have relieved my concerns somewhat.

But it's not "less people in Cape York". It's "fewer people in Cape York".

:-)

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 16:19

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 16:19
When the ABC Backroads series started, I heard an interview on ABC radio with the presenter Heather Ewart.

She was talking about the upcoming episode on Karumba. The inteviewer asked her where Karumba was.

Half way up the York Peninsula on the west side was her answer.
The the interviewer asked is that north of Weipa?
Yes!!!!!!

Oh well, I though she would know better.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 18:21

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 18:21
Ask people about the "West Coast of Queensland" and watch the puzzled look on some of their faces.

Scrubby.
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Reply By: Top End Az - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 19:07

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 19:07
Living in Darwin, you'd be surprised how many people don't know what state/ territory its in when you try to explain it to them, with the most common wrong answer being WA. Let alone trying to explain "Where the hell is Noonamah".
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Follow Up By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 21:16

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 21:16
Where the hell IS Noonamah? So we are not perfect at Geography either !
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Follow Up By: Top End Az - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:27

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:27
Noonamah is an outer rural suburb of Darwin, about 50km south east of the CBD.There is actually a car bumper sticker available saying " Where the hell is Noonamah". Bit of a local thing.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:59

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 08:59
Ha ha, I think there is a "Where the hell is >insert any Aussie outback town here< ?" sticker for every Aussie outback town :D
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Reply By: LAZYLUX16 - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 19:59

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 19:59
I look at as a positive .Less people out there traveling.On nevayive side very sad people do not know our beautiful country and go out and see it!
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Reply By: Paul E6 - Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 23:23

Saturday, Apr 16, 2016 at 23:23
I had a young co worker the other day ask me what "the wheatbelt" was.
He is a loudmouth knucklehead, but even so it blew my mind momentarily.
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Reply By: Moke Spider - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 04:48

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 04:48
Hey Christine and Lindsay,

I think you guys got us good :) - this is a joke right?

Chris
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Follow Up By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 17:21

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 17:21
No, absolutely true !
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:56

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 07:56
I probably should own up on this one, my first trip to the Cape was in 1987, then there might have been a couple of hundred visitors a season, well when I got back I told a mate of mine, well apparently he can't keep a secret and from that there is now 60, 000 tourists to the Cape, with 20, 000 plus of them making their
way to the tip
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Follow Up By: Member - Christine and Lindsay - Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 17:28

Sunday, Apr 17, 2016 at 17:28
We travelled around Australia for a year in 1983. Got up to Cooktown but not really set up for the Cape trip at that stage so put it on the Next Time list. If only we had done it back then. I suppose a lot can change in 33 years.
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Reply By: David T6 - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 17:18

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 17:18
Mention Cameron's Corner, Birdsville etc, most look at you blankly. NFI.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 19:56

Tuesday, Apr 19, 2016 at 19:56
Where is Cameron's Corner, I've been to Cameron Corner. Sorry couldn't resist it, LOL
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