Lane hoggers on notice

Submitted: Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 17:26
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 18:35

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 18:35
Good on them. Now they need a rule that you can't overtake on the inside on a multi lane road, and trucks aren't allowed in the centre lane unless signposted. That would bring us into line with civilised driving countries. If those rules were implemented then they could lift speed limits by 10-20 kph.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 20:02

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 20:02
In civilised driving countries I believe overtaking on the inside on a multi lane road is termed 'Undertaking'. Maybe an apt description for some drivers.
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Follow Up By: Steve - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 21:29

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 21:29
Trucks aren't allowed in the centre lane? It'd be a start if they weren't allowed in the 3rd (outside) lane like the one going over the Hawkesbury River this morning.
Can't believe these drivers toiling side by side in the left lanes in a triple lane section and blocking a two lane section doing the same speed side by side up long hills with long tailbacks behind them. They're not the only ones with a job to do.

A good initiative but I wonder how long it will last? This one has been threatened before but never really enforced. Maybe now the speeding message has hit home they need another source of income. If they were serious about our welfare there'd be tv awareness campaigns as in other countries but they don't want to spend money, they want to rake it in.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:47

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:47
Last I looked, if you're getting overtaken on the left on a highway then it's you who is the problem unless 'keep left unless overtaking' has taken in a new meaning.
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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 16:42

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 16:42
Quote from the illustrious écrivain, Rod N: "in civilised driving countries" Hmmmmm
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:00

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:00
Phil1234, in the words of a red haired poly, please explain the meaning of your post.
You also forgot to attribute the quote to Michael H9, whom I was quoting.
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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:04

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:04
I having a dig at Rod N the illustrious écrivain, ie writer, using the phrase "in civilised driving countries"
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:09

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 17:09
And I in turn was having a bit of a dig at Michael H9 where he said "That would bring us into line with civilised driving countries."
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Reply By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 18:55

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 18:55
Gday
Its time that Victoria started to push the keep left law as well.. I did notice today that trucks will be kept to 90kph on the Monash soon, and then the right lane will be banned for trucks .
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 20:13

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 20:13
Muz, the right hand lane ban comes in well after the 90kph limit, the trucks will have a field day, three abreast sitting on 90kph holding up the traffic as a protest.............. Has me stuffed why the right hand lane ban is only on the Eastern Freeway and then only to the tunnel and Geelong Road!!!!
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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:30

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:30
If the trucks went down the freeway at 90 three abreast that would be faster than what we have now
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:47

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:47
Muz, agree that that speed would be nice in peak times, LOL
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Reply By: garrycol - Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 22:09

Thursday, Jul 14, 2016 at 22:09
Trucks and Mexicans seem to be the main offenders.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:22

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:22
Queenslanders are the most undisciplined. Just drive down from Brisbane o the Gold Coast. most of the slower drivers are in the right hand lanes
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Saturday, Jul 16, 2016 at 14:28

Saturday, Jul 16, 2016 at 14:28
Re trucks being the main offenders.

I can't agree.

Coming home from Sydney on Thursday, all trucks, bar two, were in the left lane sitting dead on 99-100. And the traffic was heavy as holidays are finishing. Everything moving along nicely.

Except for hills though and then the lighter trucks would overtake and move back to the left lane when past. But in general all were in the left lane.

I don't recall looking at number plates but even the cars were in between the trucks if not overtaking. I don't recall any car having to overtake one car on the left to pass a "right hand lane hog". First time for ages that the Hume worked well.

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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Friday, Jul 22, 2016 at 18:14

Friday, Jul 22, 2016 at 18:14
PeterD . ..... mate Brisbane to Gold Coast is not indicative of Queensland drivers .... yeh I know good 100KMH road 3 lanes wide and someone sitting in the right hand lane doing 85, someone in the middle lane doing 90 and the occasional slow vehicle sitting where they should in the left lane .... ARRRRGH ....... a lot of our problems in the southeast are from Southerner immigrants ..... we are up to our armpits in em ....... you have to get north of Gympie or west of Gatton before it starts to get civilised.

As for the Gold Coast it's self ...... oh hell what a $#!^ fight ...... I only go there if I absolutely must.
I do a service run down that way a couple of times a year ...... sorry what a horrible place to get around.

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Reply By: Genny - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 04:38

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 04:38
And when the left hand lane is totally clogged bumper to bumper, but moving at near 100 k, the right hand lane should be empty (overtaking would require lengthy occupancy of the right hand lane), thereby reducing road capacity by 50%.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:40

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:40
You can be in the right lane as long as you are overtaking. There is no rule that you have to overtake quickly. These rules are in place in other countries, they work well, they don't reduce road capacity, they make the road safer and you can actually drive faster in a heavier concentration of traffic because everything is far more orderly. If the road happens to be full then all lanes are full.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:53

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:53
Exactly right genny, the right lane isn't for travelling in or clogging up freeways. You have described driving nirvana.
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Reply By: Malcom M - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:41

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 07:41
bit of a bugger is Sydney where your exit lane could be on the right or left or even in the center.

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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:57

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:57
Can't agree Malcome. Sorry mate. I have never had trouble even though I don't move into the right lane 5 kilometers before the turnoff.

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Follow Up By: Malcom M - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 09:43

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 09:43
thats just you (and me) but try and put yourself in the position of the thousands of immigrants and tourists faced with an idiotic motorway system that is different to most of the rest of the civilised world.
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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:03

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:03
They would (or should) be made to integrate with us. Just as I would if I moved over there. Why do we have to change to their way when our fair go for all works for us. They just have to learn mate.

I even learnt how to turn right from the left lane when I went to "mexico"!!! dig dig dig.

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Follow Up By: Malcom M - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:10

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 10:10
Its the (politically correct) Australian way.
Find the lowest common denominator and adopt as accepted standard.
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Follow Up By: MUZBRY- Life member(Vic) - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 13:12

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 13:12
Gday Philll
Very few corners like that in Victoria . And its only corners with trams.
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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:08

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:08
Germany's Auto Ban comes to mind.
A fine example of exceptional roads, sensible road rules and sensible people all working together.
For decades it has proven to work.
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Follow Up By: AlanTH - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:19

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 12:19
There are rules in WA about moving to the left on roads of 90kph and above. Rarely does anyone bother except when a cops car is spotted.... and that in itself is very rare.
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Follow Up By: Phil1234 - Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:09

Friday, Jul 15, 2016 at 15:09
We saw a cop car the other day. It even had two people inside with police uniforms on.

All jokes aside, there does seem to be a lack of them compared to yester-year. And that's why there are so many drivers getting away with hogging etc etc etc.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:18

Tuesday, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:18
Here is SA it's 'Keep Left Unless Overtaking' in zones posted 80km/hr and above.
Laws / rules are worth nothing if they aren't enforced, it seems there is a law / rule for pretty much everything, but when there's an issue with something not working, authorities seem to just create another new law instead of enforcing a current law that would fix the issue outright.
Of course most Police don't know fully all laws / rules out there now, and new laws not enforced will simply confuse things even more, again without solving the base problem.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:23

Tuesday, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:23
Hmmm and reading the news article, I personally feel it is lazy policing to just blitz something once in a blue moon, patrols should be monitoring laws and offences all the time whenever they see them.
Nothing educates lazy motoring more than seeing someone pulled over for an offence, much moreso than getting fines in the mail.
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Reply By: Member - Ian F (WA) - Sunday, Jul 17, 2016 at 09:34

Sunday, Jul 17, 2016 at 09:34
I have never been able to understand why WA changed keep to the left rule to only enforce it over 90kmh as now everyone seems to drive only in the right hand lane. I have often noticed they may be the only vehicle on the road, apart from myself.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Sunday, Jul 17, 2016 at 09:43

Sunday, Jul 17, 2016 at 09:43
In Victoria the keep left rule only applies over 80kmh, like you I fail to understand the obsession with driving in the outside lane which seems to include a disproportionate number of four wheel drives, particularly Landcruisers.
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