quickest/best route to brisb from melb
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 07:28
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fozzy
from melb to
brisbane driving would have expected quickest way is via newell highway or newell /
new england but had discussion last night and mate reckons now it is just as quick up hume to sydneythensydney/
newcastle freeway and then continue on
new england as lots of double lanes
any thoughts and comparison times would be appreciated
cheers
fozzy
Reply By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 07:51
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 07:51
Hi Fozzy. IMO, I don't think the double lanes on the coast would make much of a difference. Has been a while now, but I remember travelling along the Newell etc and there was ample overtaking room if needed.
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Reply By: stevesub - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:39
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:39
Done this trip quite a few times over the last 3 years by various
routes and the Newell is by far the quickest even though it is single lane either way so long as you are prepared to overtake. There is not a lot of traffic when compared with other roads eg the Hume.
For the majority of the road, it is easy to average 100kph and not break the 110kph speed limit. We usually are in our Troopy and cruise at 100 to 110kph and we cannot afford the diesel (at todays prices) to go much faster, not that it is very nice in a Troopy going much faster anyway.
Most of the Newell is straight and flat, unlike other roads.
Mind you I have seen mindless souls stuck behind a caravan at 70- 80kph for hours becaase they are too scared to overtake, even with an empty straight road to the horizon ahead of them for both lanes. This would make it a slow trip
Stevesub
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Reply By: Member - Steve (ACT) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 11:14
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 11:14
Ran both through travelmate, costal and Newell Hwy, not sure how much it takes in to consideration speed limits/traffic etc
Coastal 1793.68kms & 22.84 hours
Newell 1646.23kms & 22.09 hours
We travel to
Townsville almost yearly and have found that the route with less towns to drive through is a lot quicker.
Steve
travel mate
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Follow Up By: GaryInOz (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 17:10
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 17:10
I've done the Melb to Bri/
Gold Coast trip many (last count in excess of 25) times. The only times I have not gone the Newell/NE I have regretted it.
Most of the Newell through NSW and some of the Hume up to the
Seymour turnoff is 110 km/h (total of about 1000 km). I have found that with a decent car, 18-19 hours drive time is about average (sticking to speed limits, etc). Driving two-up, a first day would see you at Moree or Narrabri, depending on which direction you are going (~12-13 hrs). This leaves a leisurely drive the following day to arrive in the early afternoon.
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 12:17
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 12:17
Travelled the Newell a couple of times to both
Sydney and Albury when the Hume/Pacific Hwy route was a pain in the !@#$, especially past Byron Bay. But you are slowed down by having to pass through mouse @#$ towns, plus the extra distance from
Brisbane to
Goondiwindi (excuse me if it is mispelt) made up little more than some hassle free driving as there is less traffic, unless you get caught behind a Cotton Harvester doing 60 kph near Narrabri, or behind a road train.
I'm taking the Pacific/Hume later this month to
Melbourne as I haven't been on the East coast for several years and want to see if it is any better now. The M1 from
Brisbane keeps going way past
Tweed Heads so travelling time has been reduced. There are more dual lane sections bi-passing those annoying little towns and slow (80kph) sections, so you now cruise along at a reasonable speed.
I'll let you know when I get back if it was quicker and safer.
Wizard
PradoTD
Gold Coast
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Reply By: stevesub - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:09
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:09
Did the Pacific from
Brisbane to
Sydney earlier this year - it was a real pain in the butt compared with the Newell. If you have to go
Brisbane to
Sydney, use the
New England.
The traffic everywhere on the Pacific is bad, not to mention hundreds of small towns with the associated slow local traffic and lower speed limits.
We normally take 18 to 20 hrs drving time to do Melbourne/
Brisbane via the Newell in the Troopy.
Stevesub
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Reply By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:25
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:25
Newell is quicker and a lot less stressful. Why go through
Sydney if you can avoid it???
Another option is use the Newell to Gunedah(?) and then cut across to the
New England at
Tamworth. This is the best route if in a car as cuts down on the extra K's of the Brisbane/Goondawindi stretch. The truckies tend to stay on the Newell as it's flatter.
Cheers....
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:26
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:26
Newell
Brisbane to
Melbourne 14.5 hours (1975, TR3A, two drivers, no radar etc)
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 14:00
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 14:00
damn! Thought I had a record. Beat me, but I wasn't going to post lest I incriminate myself! lol.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:46
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 13:46
Another option which could be considered.........
Given that the Hume is great on the Victorian side, why not go from
melbourne to Albury (no towns to slow down for, then you can go from Albury/Lavington to Narrandera via a couple of small towns, then you're onto the Newell (which is the best option for getting through NSW).
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Reply By: adamj1300 - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 14:49
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 14:49
i did the trip from forest glen (on the sunny coast) to the SE of melb via the newl in 14 & a half hrs in a VN 5sp man commodore :-) driving throught the nite that was before i wrote it off.
last trip i did it in was a GU patrol 2.8 td in abour 19 hrs straight,
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 17:52
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 17:52
I did the Newell trip
Melbourne to
Gold Coast in June. Great trip. 110 speed limit a lot of the way. Although single lane, the surface is very good. No problem with overtaking (not that you need to; not a lot of traffic and all doing 110). In fact hard to stay down to 110 with setting the cruise.
Went down the coast road for the scenery and to visit some rellies on the way. Don't go that way unless you have a reason. Scenery is better, but roads are worse, packed with traffic and lower speed limits.
Just my experience.
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Reply By: Tim - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 19:28
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 19:28
From Brissy to
Newcastle go the NE until you get to
Uralla (just south of Armidale) turn off there and go down through
Walcha and
Gloucester on the thunderbolts way then hook up with the F3 at Hexam/Bero.
The thunderbolts way shaves a good hour off the trip and its great scenic country too. Good road most of the way and you won't see many cars.
South of
Sydney your on your own.
Tim
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Follow Up By: Erwin - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 20:58
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 20:58
Gooday all
After
Gloucester do you go through Booral and come out about 18kms north of Raymond Terrace or do you go through Dungog and come out at Raymond Terrace. I'm going down that way in a couple of weeks and looking for something different particularly if it saves a bit of time.
Cheers
Erwin
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Follow Up By: Tim - Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 12:56
Friday, Aug 05, 2005 at 12:56
I go straight down to the Terrace myself, it just gets you back onto the main roads a bit quicker rather then coming through the back of maitland and Taro/bero.
It is also much easier from a navigation point of view.
If you do come over the tops, there is a look out on the top of the mountains on the side of the road which is up there with the best I have ever seen (as long as your not doing an overnight trip)
well worth a look.
Tim
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Reply By: Steve - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 20:59
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 20:59
Go the Newell. They harvest cotton in March. Not a problem. Best route esp if towing.
New England isn't a good run. the Pac Hwy is s-l-o-w-l-y improving. Some great sections with freeway conditions but from say, MacLean to the new Freeway just N of Byron Bay, for instance, is still the dark ages. Crawling with speed cops, too.
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Reply By: Member - AVA 191 (QLD) - Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 21:24
Wednesday, Aug 03, 2005 at 21:24
While Thunderbolts way is a nice drive like Tim said, I would only use it from
Sydney to
Brisbane.As for Melb to Bris, I go the same way as Roachie. You can just about do a straight line from the Hume just north of Albury, across to the Newel - using what appears to be minor roads - but they are really quite good roads.
Take the navman times with a grain of salt. No way will you go through
Sydney in a quicker time than Roachies route. (I love my Navman to death and swear by it - but its route times are just way, way out).
Enjoy your trip Fozzy
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Reply By: fozzy - Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:50
Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:50
thanks everyone for all advice
heading off in morning
cheers
fozzy
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Reply By: Tellem Bugrem - Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 13:38
Saturday, Aug 06, 2005 at 13:38
G'day all,
Thunderbolts Way is certainly a great drive but it doesn't come without a few hastles.
1. The section between Booral and
Gloucester is narrow and starting to break up under traffic loads.
2. Likewise the section between
Nowendoc and
Walcha.
3. The Bretti
Hill is steep (14%) and long. If towing a caravan, it'll be 1st gear for for about 15 minutes going up, and when you are coming down (from the
lookout) there are signs saying trucks must use low gear. That goes for vehicles towing caravans too, as the tightest bends are at the bottom. If you don't use 1st gear ALL the way down, you will almost certainly
cook your brakes to the extent that you probably won't make it around the last few bends.
On the plus side the are a couple of beaut free camps, one beside the Manning river where they are at last building a new bridge, and one at
Bretti Reserve, a few km south of the bottom of the big
hill.
Cheers.............Rob
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