4WD drivers 'fat, homophobic'

Submitted: Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 22:36
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This is so full of holes its funny!

Why are they asking "OWNERS OF 4WD's" that are 14yrs old? or 15, or 16 years of age?? How many people 14-16 would own a 4wd?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16726259-29277,00.html

FORGET the ads that show fit, rugged, 30-something-year-olds navigating flood plains and climbing mountains in the snazzy 4WDs.

The reality is, drivers of the suburban monsters are often obese, aggressive, intolerant and aged in their 40s or 50s.
A new study has found that city owners of large four-wheel-drive vehicles are less community minded than other drivers, less charitable, more likely to be homophobic and have a low opinion of indigenous culture.

The Australia Institute study has also found they are more likely to use force to get their way.

Based on a Roy Morgan Research survey in 2003-04 of 24,718 people aged 14 and over, the study found the typical city driver of a large 4WD is a male in his forties or fifties in full-time work with a higher than average income.

The 4WDs are also far more likely than conventional vehicles to kill or maim other road users, are less fuel efficient, and are resented by other road users.

Two-thirds of their drivers in the city are overweight or obese.
They also had a lower regard for the welfare system than the general population.

"While over half (57 per cent) of all Australians agree it is the government's duty to support those who cannot find work, only 42 per cent of city drivers of large 4WDs concur," the report's authors, Clive Hamilton and Claire Barbato, said.

"These drivers tend to see themselves as rugged individualists who like physical activity.

"Perhaps with implications for how they drive, they are more inclined to say they sometimes use force to get their way," the authors said.

The authors also say 4WDs are marketed as bold, tough, powerful and made for rugged terrain, while the daily reality is that most are driven between school, work and shops in metropolitan areas.

The survey counted only city drivers of 4WDs, where over half of the vehicles are owned.

However, drivers of luxury 4WDs are very different.

They are more likely to be female, in their 30s and 40s, and are more materialistic than other Australians.

"This group is more than twice as likely as the general population to say, 'I was born to shop' (33 per cent)," the authors said.

"And two-thirds (65 per cent) say they would normally buy their favourite brand regardless of price, compared with 43 per cent of the population."

They also watch their weight, and are less likely to be obese than the general population.

Monash University research indicates 4WDs are far more likely than conventional vehicles to kill or maim other road users.

Dr Hamilton said the vehicles were also less fuel efficient and are resented by other road users.

He said special licences and higher taxes should be imposed on 4WD owners
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Reply By: gramps - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 22:50

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 22:50
You're bored again Truckie. Go to bed. Don't stir up the natives.
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 22:55

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 22:55
OK, so aparently I'm obese but like physical activity...??? But then again, I'm not in my 40's or 50's... I've got a HC license, is that good enough? I only use force when faced with absolute contempt, I struggle to get the keys off the missus, she is in her 30's(that fits), is one of the least materialistic people I know, she hates shopping, is more comfortable in trackies and a jumper, brand names mean nothing to her and neither of us went to Monash Uni(thank christ)...

Oh well, I guess I must be a loser...(as shown by my exagerated use of comma's)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:32

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:32
Its a comma problem Blue, theres tablets you can take to manage the side effects
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:41

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:41
No Blue you have it wrong, this survey doesn't include you.

The study focuses on large 4WDs (such as the Toyota
LandCruiser and Nissan Patrol), rather than small and medium sized vehicles, and
includes an analysis of drivers of ‘luxury 4WDs’ (such as the BMW X3).

Since you drive a ute you are more likey to be a skinny poof on the dole :)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:45

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:45
You have it wrong Ray, he's not on the dole....or skinny..........
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:57

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:57
yep, just shows how flawed this survey is Geoff.
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 21:58

Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 21:58
Thanks Bonz, I do work kinda full time, I'm far from skinny and just for the record I'm not a poof... Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 22:00

Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 22:00
And Ray, are you putting yourself in the "skinny poof on the dole" category...lol?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 22:10

Thursday, Sep 29, 2005 at 22:10
Hmm, I don't seem to fit the mold either so maybe I'd better do something about it like switching to a Cruiser or Patrol.....nah! wouldn't like the downgrade :)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Friday, Sep 30, 2005 at 07:04

Friday, Sep 30, 2005 at 07:04
I knew that Blue, I choose not to run.
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:07

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:07
I read the original paper today.

Quoted refererences were:

1 x "anti-SUV" book from the US
2 x older papers co-authored by one of the authors (he quoted himself)
2 x press releases from AAMI (used to justify 4WD premium increases?)
3 x anti-4WD newspaper articles

and a couple of accident studies.

Selective use of statistics is a wonderful thing.
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:14

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:14
Who gives a flying fig.

What's of more concern is that these punks get paid for this garbage.

sue me or shut up.
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Reply By: ShnogDog - Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:31

Monday, Sep 26, 2005 at 23:31
bloody skinny poof !!!
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 07:45

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 07:45
Hahaha:-)
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:54

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:54
I'm in my 50s, 5 kg over ideal weight, and have never kissed a poofter - I think he's on the money myself.
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Follow Up By: ev700 - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:00

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:00
Maybe you are not from Melbourne.

According to the Institute (again sampling 14 year olds) that is the gay loving centre of Australia.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:30

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:30
I thought Katoomba was the center for...ummm...alternative lifestyles in Australia?
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:35

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:35
I thought it was Daylesford, maybe (he says with an overweight homophobic quizzical look on his dial) they're spreading, as is my weightstline.
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:17

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:17
And I thought it was the Warrnambool vicinity! OMG I've been hanging out in all the wrong areas.
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Reply By: vitara - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:40

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:40
Hi All what a load of crap, try getting a licence to drive a semi, peace of piss little bit of traing and you can drive these huge things, and they say people with 4wd need training or should do a driving course, I aggree that there are very good driver training around for 4wds and some peolple do need to be trained as they think they can be driven like a normal sedan, eg braking distance top heavy etc, but there are some pretty agro truck drivers out there as well including courier drivers in pantecks, high roofed vito's and ford transit vans, maybe they need some driver training as well or maybe the idiots driving the normal sized vehicles eg commodores falcons camrys etc need some driver training on how not to dive in front of a semi when it's trying to pull up at lights, and not to unertake a semi when it's trying to turn, or pull out in front of a truck from a side street then decide to right on a main road. The list goes on. Every body has driving faults not just people in 4wds. Oh and by the way I'm not overweight, I'm not homophobic, and I do find the aboriginal culture to be very interesting, and I only earn an average wage. Yes I drive a 4wd and it uses less fuel than my commodore. What a crock of bleep , and yes I have a semi licence as well. Have a good day to you all
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Follow Up By: Alex H - Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:07

Tuesday, Sep 27, 2005 at 11:07
I agree, not only does my 4wd use less fuel than the commodore, it is also shorter and narrower (tho a lot taller). And no, its not a RAV4, its a Landrover Defender!!
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Sep 28, 2005 at 01:24

Wednesday, Sep 28, 2005 at 01:24
A new study has found that city owners of large four-wheel-drive vehicles are less community minded than other drivers, less charitable, more likely to be homophobic and have a low opinion of indigenous culture.
Except I live in the sticks describes me perfectly.
Seriosly If you dont like 4wd bashing - move west, doesnt happen here because we use 4bys to create the majority of Australias wealth only an idiot or eastern stater would slag off 4bys or roo bars over here!!
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