Give way to buses ?
Submitted: Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:12
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Axle
Hi all
Buses pulling out into traffic on main arterial roads, because they have the right of way. Bloody dangerous i think, in city or town where traffic is at a slow pace fair enought let them in but where the speeds up to 60 &80 km, its hard to pull up when some of these turkeys start to move out when your 6mtrs away from their rear end.
Regards Axle
Reply By: Lone Wolf - Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:30
Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:30
Even in the city it's wrong.
Why should LOTS of cars have to slow, or stop, to let a bus enter? The government says it's all about the moving of the masses efficiently
10 people in a bus, which is already stationary, then say.... 10 - 15 cars, with say... 2 people in each have to stop? What's that all about?
Bit like those lanes you have on the freeways in the States. Some lanes you are only allowed in if there are two or more people in the vehicle, and now, there are lanes specifically for the hybrids! Mark my word, they'll be damned short lived...
Wolfie
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:42
Saturday, Jan 28, 2006 at 21:42
Wolfie you just need one of the signs off a bus and the Delica could impersonate one. Just a few cardboard cutouts of people looking out.
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Reply By: porl - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 01:24
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 01:24
i go to work public by public transport, so i agree with the bus driver, u on a vehicle make way, that's what its all about, if democracy makes a diff to u then make way for the majority that pays for that road. if the the driver doesn't indicate then fair whinge but if he/she does then fair suck ofthe strawberry, public transport makes fair way. in plain words i have a 4wd and a tyota echo for family stuff, i think as a matter of emmissions and general political direction public transport should and must have fist preference to arterial roads and others. fair to talk this out but lets start with the ones who use the
services. I do.
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Reply By: Skid - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 09:09
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 09:09
Slow Down, bring your eyes up from the bumper ahead of you. Look
well ahead, Drive defensively.
If you see a bus at a stop expect it to pull out... whats the problem except for lack of anticipation?
Try taking a bus yourself someday, and then you'll aprerciate these methods to speed up mass transport.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:15
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:15
Skid,
Unfortunately you are right. Far too many idiots on the road who can not/will not look beyond the vehicle directly in front of them. The same fools who get on the horn despite the fact you have half a dozen vehicles in front of you.
Does'nt take much to drive defensively, just treat every other road user as a fool who is out to get you :))))
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Reply By: Member-Neil & Margie-Cairns - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:36
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:36
Morning all ,
i agree with both sides here ,, i drive a rigid tipper through
Cairns all day , you should try to stop one of then when they just pull out , i think the bus drivers need a little education on when to use this law ,, sometimes its a bit hard to just jump lanes when they could asses the situation and wait just a few more seconds ,, but the car drivers also need to do the same , doesn't hurt them to slow up a bit to help them out a bit , after all , they may only go 500 metres and pull over again ,, i also think this rule only applys in the city limits , and only in 50/60kph zones ..
Neil & Margie ..
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:57
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 10:57
It might give you heart to know that before this law came in , and the old buses still had those mechanical arms , one tried to force its way out in front of my old three speed Nissan .
Well it gives me great pleasure to tell you , that the arm was amputated and the old Nast Nissan suffered no harm .
A treasured moment I thought I should share with you Axle .
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Follow Up By: Axle - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:29
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:29
I bet he let every nissan past for a while, HaHa!
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 12:33
Sunday, Jan 29, 2006 at 12:33
We had a bus change lanes on us coming off the Harbour
Bridge near Milsons Point station years ago, we were in a mates old G60 Nissan. The Mack style bullbar went in just behind the RH front wheel on the bus and removed every panel up to the windows right back to the rear wheel.
The Nissan was unscathed apart from the paint on the bullbar and fortunately for my mate the cop that was behind us saw everything and pinged ther bus driver.
We drove off leaving the RTA to clean up.
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Reply By: Redback - Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 08:41
Monday, Jan 30, 2006 at 08:41
One thing none have mentioned is that, the
sign means nothing unless on a single laned road where the bus is pulling out from the kerb and ONLY in a 60kph zone, if on a road that HAS double lanes or the bus is pulling out from a bus bay and there are marked lane lines, then the rules are as normal, cannot change lanes unless it is clear and safe to do so like every other road user.
A misconception is that this giveway
sign gives a bus right of way, IT DOES NOT.
Now unless they have changed the road rules since i was a bus driving instructor for
Sydney Busses then i stand corrected, my motto was never change lanes or pull out from the kerb unless safe to do so.
Remember there are real live people sitting on that bus, and in the cars around that bus.
Baz.
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