Trailers in the Simpson and Channel 7

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Was watching the Sunrise Show on 7 this morning and weatherman Grant Denyer was crapping on about the Simpson and how some people helped them drag the satellite dish trailer across the desert.

And up comes a shot of the Troopy and Trailer going seriously off track, churning up the dunes, as discouraged by Parks and Wildlife policy.

GD states "The Simpson was a big surprise. I thought it would be all flat country"

Just goes to show how dumb these TV people really are.

There was some vague mention of the bush toilet. I wonder if they burnt the paper?
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Reply By: traveller2 - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:03

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:03
Yes now we can wait for the press release from Parks telling us how they have issued fines for the offence that was seen on national tv NOT!!!
No footage of the Disco's performing though ;-))
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Reply By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:13

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:13
Willem

Just an other example of the quality of channel sevens research department.
"I thought it would be all flat???????.
Grant!!!!!!! google son google. ten minutes and you could have more info than your research dept.

And we are concerned by some of the quetions asked here. Our overseas visitors have more nouse (spelling?) than these guys.

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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:31

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:31
G'day Wim

Have you managed to get all the sand out of the LC yet?....:o)

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Follow Up By: Member - Wim (Qld) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:49

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:49
Willem.

Be kind. I was actaully surprised at the small amount given my efforts to fill the LC.
Soft sand, a windy day and my right foot, not a good combination with the windows down.

Now I do understand that there were extenuating circumstances but I did come away with a record of my own from the trip. ??????????

All the best with the next trip. Do you now have extra spare nuts ;-))

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Reply By: Darian (SA) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:22

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:22
BTW - someone recently was engaged in travel in the SD to some extent (I don't have the detail) - seems like the plan may have been to cross both ways, all OFF TRACK. Some more detail may emerge.........
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:41

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:41
Darian

Probably me, although this was mainly in the Northern Territory and it was not an east west crossing. We were using some shot lines to reach our objective.

With the southerlies blowing up a gale in the desert in recent times, tracks can be obliterated within 24 hours
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:30

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:30
You guys have said it all , but there is one thing i will add is that maybe he should stick to dancing and not on the dunes , And I am not knocking his abillity to dance as he was good but really how could Ch 7 not let thier man win .Kostya Tszyu has bought a lot more interest to our/his Country than the hot footer
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:53

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 08:53
OK i'm sorry but, i don't know about anyone else, but that reply has gone right over my head, did anyone think that made sence, of cause it doesn't help when i don't know who Grant or GD is.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Member - John R (NSW) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:18

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:18
Doug, we reckon it was rigged as well. I reckon Kostya was far more entertaining. And not the precocious little brat that Denyer is :-)

Commercial TV is getting worse by the day, but CH7 is the pits. Does anyone else want to puke when the Koch and Doyle show comes on in the morning?
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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:30

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:30
The show was decided on sms votes. Now please tell me who, of the viewing public are going to pick up thier phones and actually sms in a vote? More often than not it's the young-youngish females who think Grant Denier is a charming, funny, good looking, nice guy (or so I was told as my other half frantically sms'd her vote in for Grant). Not hard to see who's going to win!

On the Simpson thing - yes I had a laugh at the telly this morning at how apparently ill prepared they were but also (having never travelled into the remote outback) immensley enjoyed the pictures they showed! :-)

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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 11:19

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 11:19
Rigged? NO WAY. Just because a channel 7 personality won every series.
In the UK, the show is on channel 4 (I think) and YEP you guessed it. A channel 4 personality won every time. The same in Poland on TVN, Holland, USA and Spain. Every series was won by a person from the channel the show is on.
Well, that's what I've been told on ABC radio (as I don't watch the show).

R.
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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:16

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:16
Becuse you're likely to see a heap of Ch 9 & Ch 10 personalities on a Ch 7 show! Definately rigged! ;-) and 6 out of ten competitors are Ch 7 celebs or have sponsiorhips with Ch 7, so there was always a good chance that a Ch 7 personality was going to be up there!

They needed celebs for the show - of course they would pick ones that provide promotionaly value for thier own business! :-S

Scoey.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:09

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:09
Everyone that has won that dancing with the stars has been a Ch 7 staff member.

I say no more.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:10

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:10
having said that, with the mass outcry about the rigged show, that the next one WONT be a ch7 staff member!
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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:21

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:21
What happened to saying no more! hehe! Sorry mate, just busting your chops! :-))

Of course everyone that's won has been a Ch7 staffer - it doesn't mean it's rigged. Having said that, I'm not an idiot, and can see the point you are all making, I just disagree - something can look and sound like a duck but still not necassarily be a duck. Just my 2c but!
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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:27

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:27
Ok, so maybe it's not a duck
But if it looks like poo
smells like poo
and feels like poo, you wouldn't taste it to prove it's not poo :)
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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:27

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:27
hehe! Good point! The thing that blows me away with this whole thing but, is how many people from this forum were avid watchers of dancing with the stars! haha! I'm guilty as charged!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 15:22

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 15:22
I'd rather be pack raped by the harlem globetrotters than watch that ghey crap..
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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 16:41

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 16:41
Well you have fun with your globetrotters Truckster! Me? I'll sit on my nice comfy couch and have a good ol' perve at Jenifer Hawkins with next to nothing on, not to mention the other deadset stunners they have getting tossed around by the bloke celebs!

As they say, each to thier own! :-))

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Scoey!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 17:05

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 17:05
I'd rather watch some of the leso pornos that I download from Limewire daily. No need to watch blokes at all :P
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:02

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:02
Ooooh I got a G*tz ache
can you others please help poor ol Redback with some clues
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:48

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:48
Well your reply had nothing to do with the original post, what has dancing and Kostya Tszyu got to do with trailers in the Simpson.

Unless there was something i missed.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: ImEasy - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:48

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:48
Help poor ol me to will ya, cause you got me bleep ed as what the original post has to do with Kostya Tszyu????????????????
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:00

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:00
OK my G*tz ache has passed
Kostya Tszyu was a competiter in Dancing with the stars on Ch 7 and so was that bloke Grant Denya from Ch 7 weather , So he was in the Simpson Desert , because there was a work connection with the 2 of of them I was comparing the 2 and reackon that Kostya Tszyu Is a better person , If you took the time and read all the posts and answers and watched a bit of stupid reallity TV then you might just know what everyone is on about . Ohhh my G*tz ache is comin back again and now I know what's causin it,,....LOL
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:12

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:12
Riiiight, time for a lie down i think Doug
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Follow Up By: ImEasy - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 08:35

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 08:35
-If you took the time and read all the posts and answers and watched a bit of stupid reallity TV then you might just know what everyone is on about . Ohhh my G*tz ache is comin back again and now I know what's causin it-

Doug,

Maybe thats whats causing your G*tz Ache, you are watching too much stupid reallity TV!!

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Reply By: Laura B - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:04

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:04
im not sticking up fir GD but the average city yobo thinks that this country IS flat....his statment was not that silly.....people who have never thought about going there or have even see pics would prob think the same.....i know i cannt comprehend it...the sand dunes that is....ive never been there.......

maybe sunrise should see this web site before going there again!!

was Ruth out there to be seen that early in the morn???

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Follow Up By: Scoey (QLD) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:32

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:32
I agree Laura! ;-) Some will say, tho, that he shouldn't have been out there if he had such a limited knowledge, but I reckon that the exec's would've sent him and if there was any trouble they would've sent a chopper out after him with the budget they must have!! haha!

Scoey!
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:39

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 09:39
Crikey! Certainly a lot of vitriol squirting around here. Such indignation!!!!

Good on him for getting out and about I reckon.

Bet most of you tut tutter's would look like complete tools if taken out of your 'natural environment' too. Carrying on like a bunch of old spinsters clucking away over the back fence you mob.

Unfortunately the handbrake watches that show for some inexplicable reason. Christ, is it just me or is that 'Kochie' an A number 1 prime grade dork snorkel. His sidekick is about as beige and bland as you can get too. That show is pus - no argument from me on that count.

FYI, the correct pronounciation of Koch is actually 'kock' according to the H&K website. How appropriate.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 19:23

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 19:23
Onya V8.....agree with your comments re that Koch-head on ch 7 and his sidekock. I have 2 blokes who work where I do, both with the same surname and they pronounce it "Koff"....go figure.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:38

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:38
Bush Dunny? That would have been a portaloo on a trailer!

Thought the simpson was flat? How bleep in stupid are these people... Even the desert in Rat Patrol was hilly :P
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:54

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 10:54
Rat Patrol .now you are really showing your age !! LOL
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 11:51

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 11:51
Love them old cheapy desert movies!
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Reply By: Dean (SA) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:07

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 12:07
Well I'm going up that way for the first time in 7 weeks.
Like all Ive done plenty of research on the area, the last thing on my mind is to check beforehand if it is flat or not.
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Follow Up By: Redback - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:19

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 13:19
That was the first thing i checked, being a sand desert, means sand, which means sand dunes, you can never be too prepared, also speaking to the locals is always a wise thing to do as well.

Have a good trip you'll love it, it's an amazing place.

Baz.
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Reply By: signman - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:04

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:04
You mean the Simpson is NOT flat country?? When I crossed the Simpson (in '01) it was flat, with a few hundred (make that over a thousand) speed humps!!
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Reply By: Member - Tony T (VIC) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:34

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 14:34
That'd be the same Channel 7 that had the 3 wise men advertising ch. 7 on their T shirts at the Anzac day service PNG standing right behind the padre- very tasteful.
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Reply By: Shaker - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 15:07

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 15:07
It's good to see that most here know everything about everything, & will never get a surprise when they visit unknown areas!
When we did our Simpson trip we were also surprised, at the amount of vegetation, now we did heaps of research, but obviously not enough, because we didn't know everything either. In fact if you know it all, there is probably not much point in going.

In regard to Grant Denyer, If you had watched the program, & paid attention, you would have realised that he was only part of 'professionally led' trip.
I would also ask, who among you haven't pushed through the bush to get around a fallen tree or a rockslide .... it is only a matter of degrees!

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Follow Up By: ro-dah-o (WA) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:10

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:10
Good point Shaker,

for me the main reason for visiting new places (and sometimes old ones) is that I will find and experince something new. Thats what makes travelling so exciting.

Yes it does help to do some reasearch prior to going, but the surprises is what makes the best memories IMHO.

.....now back to getting the magna ready for the gunbarrel highway.........

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Reply By: brian - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 17:57

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 17:57
Wasnt the point of the artical that he was in a hot air balloon..the first to cross the simpson....????
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Reply By: Ruth from Birdsville Caravan Park - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:48

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:48
Wasn't the WHOLE point of the whole crappy appalling thing that he was supposed to be helping a lady who has lung cancer and trying to obtain funding for research into that. As for professional help - you should speak to the poor bloke who was in charge of that. As for the others............
If interested, check my restrained comments in Viviens post a bit later.
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Reply By: Member - Peter A (VIC) - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:57

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 18:57
Baz,
I agree with you mate, whats dancing and being jealous of Grant Denyer got to do with the post in the first place. Remember also he's getting well paid for it too.
Sure he thought it was flat but we all started not knowing what was out there in the outback until we all went and had a look. Don't be too hard on them boys

Pete.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:19

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:19
We thought the world was flat too ... until we took the trouble to look!

So, the important thing is, he has crossed the desert & learnt something, isn't that why we all travel???
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 21:17

Tuesday, May 23, 2006 at 21:17
Lets not get too hypercritical there Willem..........."And up comes a shot of the Troopy and Trailer going seriously off track, churning up the dunes"
And where was that 2nd rig picture taken with a certain Nissan Patrol towing a trailer bogged to the axles? ;-)))
As poor as the image may be for the 4x4 fraternity, we need look no further than many of the pics on ExOz for examples of what we probably shouldn't be doing.
Not that I can talk as I pack the car for my next cross country adventure. B-)
We are without doubt our own worst enemy.
Cheers Craig.........
With no incriminating rig pic.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 08:30

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 08:30
Ahhh yes Craig

It was a comment high-lighting what one is not supposed to do as per the Parks and Wildlife criteria.

I am afraid that I am guilty by incriminating pic of straddling a sand blow in an attempt to move along the desired path. And yes, I do travel offtrack and have done so recently.

I suppose we can argue about this till the cows come home without a result but I do try to have a minimal impact when doing cross country stuff. I have noted in another thread on this page that 40 years later the graded cleared lines through the desert have all but disappeared. We also found that tracks we had made the day before had been covered by sand the following morning as a stiff breeze had sprung up just after sunrise.

Of course, we(4wders and EO forumites) are into recreation. Lets not forget the Miners, Anthropologists, Archaeologists, Social Workers, Pastoralists and others who frequently drive through unchartered terrain leaving their marks as well.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:20

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:20
What's the old saying about "throwing the first stone" ?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:30

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 09:30
I don't particularly care, Shaker
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 16:48

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 16:48
I'm with you Willem on the minimal impact when going cross country & while only small numbers of people are doing it, the tracks left will often be covered in less than a day. The problem of course is when it gets too popular & large convoys take the same routes any damage is compounded & leads to areas being closed.
I for one are impressed by your photo getting the trailer over the dune (damm close) but there maybe others more politcaly correct than I who would use it as ammunition against us.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: Off-track - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:19

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 23:19
True but willem was the first to jump down Ch7 for doing the very same thing. That is the point being made.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 00:15

Wednesday, May 24, 2006 at 00:15
Some interesting comments above, most not too complimentary either. You are a cynical lot for sure.

It may surprise some of you that it wasn't just Grant and a couple of cameramen on the trip.

I counted 6 Land Rover Wagons, plus a couple of Tray Tops. If you allowed say two people per vehicle, that equals a minimum of 16 support staff. And this is not counting the vehicle Grant was in and who had already departed before our arrival.

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