what's going on

You probably have sort by reponse time selected! When someone replies to your post it goes to the top of the forum. If noone replies it will gradually go down the list.

Leroy

I think you'll also find that if the person in control doesn't like what you've got to say , your post will be deleted. It doesn't require swearing - just an opinion not shared by "big brother". I imagine this post won't last long lol.

There are two little radio buttons at the top of the list. One selectes the order of the post to be in time posted order and the other selects the post in order of last added post order - meaning an active post is brought to the top. If your post isn't active with comment it will go towards the bottom.

Being a memeber or non member plays no part in that skip. Just that members have more fun;-)

Most enlightening I must say...I am another just testing the waters so to speak and if I found that there was any type of Big Brother type maouvreing going on behind the scenes here then I'd just have to walk away. Ok the laws of common decency should preclude the use of obscene language but that is not censorship. Censoring peoples thoughts or remarks on a product or service is another kettle of fish entirely. If I tender a snyde gybe against a product or service then the recipient of such should have the right of reply to defend his/her product or service.

It's good and healthy, it tends to keep people honest & believe it or not prevents to a degree legal action being taken against the owners of the site. I was only recently made aware that if someone made false or missleading statements re a product or service that they were selling via paid advertising on a site such as this that if the owners of the site supported those claims by editing or censoring remarks that they the site owners could also be held responsible. Now I have not seen that happen here, I've seen some very strong, acrimonious and healthy debate regarding some products & serivces that are advertisers and the only censorship has been to remove the expletives...

Now one forum of which I am a member will not tolerate any negative remarks made about any of it's advertisers, posts are edited or deleted if the moderator feels that they may loose advertisng $$$ needless to say I won't be renewing my subscription and I will when it is up be making more people aware of these tactics...

It never ceases to amaze me the level some busnesses will stoop to to score an extra few $$$, Take for example my recent experience with an Internet holiday retailer, The have advertised a Campervan Hire holiday for 7 days including airfares ex Sydney for $839... Swmbo says "That sounds cheaper than towing the van all that way - Make a booking Basil" "Oh yes my little dream pot" I respond "Do you want me to book your mother as well" "Don't be stupid Basil she has seen Ayres Rock" Ok so I try to make a booking and get a response back telling me that it is in fact $957... Why? Because the price is ex Sydney, yes I say, "I will be travelling from Sydney, Sybil & I both have fee rail passes & wont be flying from Canberra".... "Oh that dosen't matter says the university graduate in Travel ripp offs, You have to be a Sydney Resident to get the $839 deal" Ok I say... "I'm off to discuss this with the office of Fair Trading, have a nice day"

Have a nice day all, You've all done very well....

Paranoia I say!

Manipulation?

I have never seen "manipulation" by the forum administrators....Ever.

What I have seen is Posts deleted, if the contents are deemed to contravene the terms and conditions associated with it's use. In this world of litigation, no one can blame the owners from protecting their interests and those of others who may be "insulted" from time to time.

So, do away with the paranoia that you may be "manipulated", it just doesn't happen.

Geez, I have probably been guilty of posting, or replying to some topic that was subsequently deleted. Big deal, life goes on.

Skip,

I hope you have been satisfied that no manipulation has occured and that you get all the benefits from this forum that you can. But mate, don't start off with threats that you are not going to become a member if.........because we don't really give a bugger about that.

Have a good day.

Skippie

So now you have got all the explanations you need are you going to Join and become a Member ?

It is fine to use the site to establish if it is for you or not for you , there is so mutch imfo that can benifit you in your travelles. and as a member you can access mutch more.

It cost time and money to maintian this site so if you are going to continue to use this site.

So you and the other regular non member visitors un less you have financial constrants should join and help to share the cost of the maintanance of this site.

My Thoughts

BBB

Mike

How is your point relivant to the piont I raise ?

We all contribute in differant ways and are from differant backgrounds and trades.

If you believe your controbution is some how worth more than every one elses thats fine you believe that.

The one thing that should be common to us all is Membership.

Yours in solidarity

BBB

All I can say is,

If all the world hated you, you'd be paranoid too!!

Geoff.